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I think hand-cuffs and a baton were the way to go here.

Forsher wrote:I think hand-cuffs and a baton were the way to go here.

Pepper spray and taser too. Unless the naked guy is threatening you with his penis or trying to bleed over you I don't see how any cop would want to kill him. Then again, cops.

I say this isn't justified, the officer could have shot him in the foot or leg, thus ending the encounter.

Granbora wrote:I say this isn't justified, the officer could have shot him in the foot or leg, thus ending the encounter.

Which is very hard to do against a moving target and is just as likely to be lethal.

Granbora wrote:I say this isn't justified, the officer could have shot him in the foot or leg, thus ending the encounter.

True, could have been a non-lethal (at least intentionally . . ) shot, but it just went sour.

Forsher wrote:I think hand-cuffs and a baton were the way to go here.

Perhaps Collar and cuffs didn't go together.

Whenever I'm apprehended naked by the police it's totally for wielding a dangerous weapon.. you read that right ladies, form an orderly cue..

..also, just the other day I was arrested for concealing lethal weapons on the street.. I had my hands in my pockets yo..

..theres more..

Condunum wrote:

The Grand World Order wrote:
Autopsy only turned up cannabis, oddly enough. Either way, it's impossible for an officer to know exactly what someone's on, only that they're naked in public and charging them.

In a situation like that, it's best to assume that they're on something that will make them much more difficult to apprehend, such as angel dust.
Edit: And can we chalk this one up to "Reefer madness"?

Your right about dust, but wouldn't that turn up during the autopsy?

L Ron Cupboard wrote:Perhaps Collar and cuffs didn't go together.

Hank: Bobby, you ever heard of a movie called Cuffs & Collars?
Bobby: Ooh, I think that's the one with the two cops who don't get along, but then they do, but it's too late, cause he's dead, but not really.

Ya'll crazy for this topic the guy was naked obviously the best route to go was call for back up and arrest him. That's what id do if i was the officer here.

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:And if the cop kept running back, it seems like he didn't have any viable non-lethal options.

Like a club?

Like a punch?

He didn't even try that. I'd charge him with murder second degree and abuse of power. Plus, I'd charge also the department's top-jobs for not recruiting people with enough professionality - and not providing them with sufficient training.

Only in Alabama.

I don't know why the media's making such a big deal of this particular case - similarly dubious things happen all the time in the Deep South.

*looks up other sources*

Ah, now I get it. It's news because the dead kid's white. This happens to a black kid, and it's a flash in a pan - a few people bother to read it, and then it's forgotten. Kinda like that kid who somehow managed to shoot himself in the temple with an "illicit firearm", after being searched and with his hands cuffed behind his back. But hey, he was black - so it got a couple days' hafl-hearted protest, then ignored thereafter.

This case, however? A white kid (read: someone who's actually worth a damn in the eyes of Bible Belt law) died - so cue the three-ring media circus, the official investigation, etc. etc. etc.

Bonus points if the cop turns out to be black.

Hah! This clearly is the war declared by those Ebil Fascizzm Censor-vative Anti-Hippie League of Dictatorzz, against the innocent, nice, enlighten Nudists! What we should do is nuke 'em, destroy the Ebil Fazissm!!! BAN THOSE COMPLICATE CLOTHES!!! Restored the peace through...HIPPIE AND NUDITY!! Power of Flower! Hyaa! *Waving the rose* We shall attack those so-called police!

No, I'm not Conservative, nor Fascist, but I don't support Nudity.

New Chalcedon wrote:I don't know why the media's making such a big deal of this particular case - similarly dubious things happen all the time in the Deep South.

*looks up other sources*

Ah, now I get it. It's news because the dead kid's white. This happens to a black kid, and it's a flash in a pan - a few people bother to read it, and then it's forgotten. Kinda like that kid who somehow managed to shoot himself in the temple with an "illicit firearm", after being searched and with his hands cuffed behind his back. But hey, he was black - so it got a couple days' hafl-hearted protest, then ignored thereafter.

This case, however? A white kid (read: someone who's actually worth a damn in the eyes of Bible Belt law) died - so cue the three-ring media circus, the official investigation, etc. etc. etc.

Bonus points if the cop turns out to be black.

You pretty much hit it on the head. Regular police abuses of civil rights are pretty much the norm in the deep south since the reconstruction era.

The world doesn't need another naked guy.

Tahar Joblis wrote:

Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:He was naked.

That immediately invalidates any claims of being threatening. No weapons and either drunk or on drugs, and also naked with his gangly bits exposed? Yeah, not going to be a problem for a trained professional.

This.

Yeah, I'd have to agree.

Norstal wrote:

Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:He was naked.

That immediately invalidates any claims of being threatening. No weapons and either drunk or on drugs, and also naked with his gangly bits exposed? Yeah, not going to be a problem for a trained professional.

A naked man was able to eat someone's face.

Shit people, we just had this problem a few months ago. How short is your attention span?

I don't believe that any of those "face eating" attacks were carried out against police officers, who, as Hardened Pyrokinetics notes, are supposed to be trained professionals capable of handing people. Given he had no weapon, nor any armour or anything, it ought to have been a simple manner, for a trained professional, to take this person down in a non-lethal fashion.

Xomic wrote:

Norstal wrote:A naked man was able to eat someone's face.

Shit people, we just had this problem a few months ago. How short is your attention span?

I don't believe that any of those "face eating" attacks were carried out against police officers, who, as Hardened Pyrokinetics notes, are supposed to be trained professionals capable of handing people. Given he had no weapon, nor any armour or anything, it ought to have been a simple manner, for a trained professional, to take this person down in a non-lethal fashion.

Of course, police officers aren't equipped with anything like pepper spray, stun guns, batons or fists. Who could think such a crazy thing?

Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:He was naked.

That immediately invalidates any claims of being threatening. No weapons and either drunk or on drugs, and also naked with his gangly bits exposed? Yeah, not going to be a problem for a trained professional.

Wrong....... You can always have a gun up your ass

The police officer must have looked down and saw a dangerous weapon.

Forsher wrote:I think hand-cuffs and a baton were the way to go here.

so... when a naked man is charging you with intent to grapple, you think of handcuffs and long, thick, stiff rods?

Two points.
1. This is another example of why non-lethal weapons need to be developed.
2. Even if all the cop had was a gun, that doesn't mean that shooting the kid was the only option.
Do they not teach unarmed self defense at the Police Academy?

JuNii wrote:

Forsher wrote:I think hand-cuffs and a baton were the way to go here.

so... when a naked man is charging you with intent to grapple, you think of handcuffs and long, thick, stiff rods?

AQ'd.

He assaulted an officer, he deserved to be shot. End of story.