Fascist rise in europe

[South East Europe]

You are acting ten times more childish, you little runt.

Who the fuck still calls people "runt", grandma? Runt is a Todd Rundgren album, not an insult!

I'm not trying to insult. its against my religion, just trying to point out how you're behaving, you're just as bad as these so-called "fascists".

[South East Europe]

You are acting ten times more childish, you little runt.

He seems far more mature than you.

cunt is a mature word? fuck is a mature word? really?

[South East Europe]

Ethnic cleansing means exterminating other races not throwing them out, people who dont contribute to society dont belong in said society.

Well, then, why haven't you removed yourself from society yet?

Throwing people out of a country because of the colour of their skin or their provenience is not much removed from exterminating them for the colour of their skin or their place of origin. It's the same stupid fucking evil logic behind both urges, and they simply can't be defended.

If we can remove people from society because they don't contribute, let's start with the neo-Nazis, fascists, racists, white supremacists and nationalist bigots. They're the most useless people on the planet.

I never said who we should throw out, did I? By the way, nationalism means honoring ones country, any form of racism is wrong (even blacks can be racist)

[South East Europe]

I believe there is no contradiction between making a detailed argument which uses facts and theory and cursing like a sailor and sarcastically insulting fascists. In fact, I like doing all three at once!

Must be a bloody disappointment, then, that you fail completely at using facts.

Even though we may disagree politically, I agree 100% with this statement.

[Stza1233]

DOWN WITH FASCISMO!

[Tagmatium]

The bad ones.

What a juvenile statement.

I love it, though.

[Tagmatium]

I love it, though.

It is sort of cutesy.

Essentially.

"The bad ones"...

Makes them sound like gone-off fruit, or something.

[Tagmatium]

Prove it by growing the fuck up and developing an adult, non-bigoted understanding of immigration.

Being an adult does not mean I have to be "non-bigoted."

It does, perhaps, mean that there ought to be more informed opinions held.

Being bigoted isn't really considered to be part of being a well-rounded human being.

[Tagmatium]

It does, perhaps, mean that there ought to be more informed opinions held.

Being bigoted isn't really considered to be part of being a well-rounded human being.

Simply because I have not explained thoroughly what I meant, does not mean I am uninformed.

And, being a well-rounded human being does is not necessarily being an adult.

I wasn't saying that you held uninformed opinions, but that being bigoted usually springs from being uninformed.

Also, I'd suggest that being a well-rounded human being does usually necessitate being an adult. Less likely to be an ignorant little twerp shooting ones mouth off - not that I'm suggesting that you aren't.

[Tagmatium]

I wasn't saying that you held uninformed opinions, but that being bigoted usually springs from being uninformed.

Also, I'd suggest that being a well-rounded human being does usually necessitate being an adult. Less likely to be an ignorant little twerp shooting ones mouth off - not that I'm suggesting that you aren't.

It's scientifically impossible to be bigoted and not sound like an ignorant twerp shooting your mouth off. That's scientific fact. There's no real basis for it, but it's scientific fact.

You get a shiny medal for the Brass Eye reference.

[Tagmatium]

so hey abatael are you bigoted ):

Yes I do! And Socialism has taken over Europe, and stop acting like you know your crap you don't.

oh please tell us more

You're Scottish, therefore at the heart of this evil Socialist lie.

Shame on you.

[Tagmatium]

I know my shit, you don't. Socialism has not taken over Europe, that is such an incredibly mothercuntfuckingly STUPID thing to say. The problem with the world nowadays is the increasing corporatization of it at all levels, coupled with a rotting and destroying of public services and subordination of everything to markets! If socialism would've taken over Europe, Europe would be a fucking paradise like Scandinavia!

You know what? You little piece of crap, YOU DON'T crap! And I'll tell you why, your little Corp. conspiracy is true because of renown Socialist George Soros he is corrupting the governments of Europe and now the US.

Isn't the idea of corporations and socialists kind of contradictory?

[Tagmatium]

George Soros isn't a socialist, he's just a poser.

And just because you're so fucking concerned about me as opposed to making an argument that doesn't rely on name-calling, I actually do crap. I'm not constipated, silly.

Look I gave my option and you just have to give your smart ass answer.

Isn't that what all answers are?

[Tagmatium]

You did not make a single thing that can be described as a "counterargument" in your post. You just ranted like a homeless person whose soup'd just been spiked with a bad speedball topped with LSD flavouring and ecstasy cake.

I would take you seriously if you had some respect for anyone other than your self. But you don't and I'll just disregard you.

Eh, since you're pretty fiercely wrong, it is hard to have respect.

[Tagmatium]

Can we ignore Zaras nonsense? He is adding nothing to this debate other then inane 16 year old socialist spouting trash that is causing others in this thread to lose their tempers.

Thank you.
You are my hero.

Better to preen ourselves and discuss how those Muslims are taking our jobs and our womens, right?

[Tagmatium]

Dont you give me the 'we came from africa' crap,its stupid and untrue.

So humans didn't evolve in Africa?

That's news to everyone.

[The Archregimancy]

How can this possibly be justified?
http://www.euronews.com/2012/09/09/gree ... t-vendors/

They do no harm, yet these thugs vandalised their stalls, DISGUSTING! You should all be deeply embarrassed!!!

NO,THE PAKIS SHOULD! These 'people' who do no harm are selling these things illegally and beat up the legal greek sellers of the area

Yes I do,I am a greek and the nation is called greece,if the greek people dont want this pakis in their nation isnt them entering consindered an invation?

Pakis assaulting and raping greek women on new year's eve is propaganda?

*** Warned for flamebaiting. ***

I appreciate that the offensiveness of 'Paki' is somewhat culturally relative, and this is why I haven't outright banned Melas, but in British English it's deeply offensive - on a par with 'nigger' in American English.

Yet even acknowledging the culturally relative nature of the term, its continued use by Melas in this thread cannot be seen as anything other than inflammatory given the context of the posts.

[The Blaatschapen]

No, they're f*cked up because your country fudged its numbers to join the Euro. It's no-one's fault but Greece's.

We actually never voted on entering EU,the Euro or NATO ...Simitis is to blame,we didn't know the numbers were forged and most of us over here prefered Drachma over euro.

Then blame Simitis, not the EU. It's the people's responsibility to know what their leader is doing. Even more so in a democracy where you can actually choose your leader.

[The Blaatschapen]

Then blame Simitis, not the EU. It's the people's responsibility to know what their leader is doing. Even more so in a democracy where you can actually choose your leader.

I didn't blame the EU,I'm not Melas and our democrasy is fucked up big time.

The argument was that the EU was blamed, then someone blamed Greece, then you the leader. I put it back to the people, because democatic system *shrugs*

Either way, Greece's economy isn't doing well

[The Blaatschapen]

France's Right Wing Party was defeated by the Socialist one already, I don't see how France will ever be conservative again.

Hmm, the centre right and the centre left in France do switch power on quite some occasions. Mitterand, Chirac, Sarkozy and now Hollande. Sometimes they even have cohabitation, where the President is centre right and the prime minister is centre left{or vice versa}. My guess will be that it is quite possible for the centre right in France to come back again.

The Right Wing in France could mean one of two things. The UMP or the FN. The UMP is very mildly conservative and is center right while the FN is hard right (though moderated slightly during recent years). The UMP was the one defeated in the elections, which is actually good for the FN because it gives Marine Le Pen an opening to try and become the main rightist challenger to the socialists. So, paradoxically, the Socialists winning the election could actually be good for conservatives in France, at least in the longer term.

Let's not hope that. UMP > FN.

[The Irish Marchlands]

Can we ignore Zaras nonsense? He is adding nothing to this debate other then inane 16 year old socialist spouting trash that is causing others in this thread to lose their tempers.

[The Most Serene Republic of Alex Morgan]

This s*** is just crazy, IMHO.

[The Nuclear Fist]

By the way,their economice plan (among other things) is posted on their site,since only thing intreviewers keep asking them is if they are nazis and if they wanna kill... DEMOZCRATSI!!!

If their economic plan revolves around Nazi-type ideas, they're fucking stupid. And if it also involves Nazi-type actions, they're dangerous and need a good purging.

[The Nuclear Fist]

if the greek people dont want this pakis in their nation isnt them entering consindered an invation?

It doesn't, no. Not unless people immigrating to Greece is against the law and the Greek government declared it an act of war.

Even then, you can't have a war on something that isn't an organized force.

[The Nuclear Fist]

These people immigrated to greece illegally,so yeah it is against the law.And I didnt mean that it is a war.

Just illegal immigration or immigration as a whole? Invasion is an act of war. And since illegal immigration does not constitute an organized force or an invasion, nor are they entering Greece with the intent of malice, nor has the Greek government declared illegal immigration an act of war, no.

It is not an act of war or an invasion. Try again.