Fascist rise in europe

[Melas]

Dont have any

Then you have no credible evidence and you've wasted our time.


Again.

Yes cause I am sure you were busy curing cancer

[Melas]

The age of Fascism is over. It ended over 60 years ago. I doubt there is going to be a second one anytime soon

History repeats itself, sometimes way too often.

Indeed,we can all see where all this developments are leading to,kinda ironic.

[Melas]

Dont have any

What a surprise! There's no evidence that 75% of all Greek crime is caused by immigrants! Colour me astounded.

Indeed,we can all see where all this developments are leading to,kinda ironic.

Greece being shafted militarily and ruined like Italy was?

I am not just talking about greece,these crysic these developments have already happened again in history,too bad people are too stupid and make the same mistakes

[Melas]

Indeed,we can all see where all this developments are leading to,kinda ironic.

Delusions of grandeur before the EU bitch-smacks the Fascism out of Greece?

If G.D becomes the leading power with what right would EU interfee on a democraticly elected party?

[Melas]

Melas, seriously. You've been spouting rhetoric without anything real to back it up for the last eight pages or so. Seriously, either back it up with an English, international source, or kindly admit you are wrong, and stop wasting all our time.

I have no source,already said that,if you are here for a source or to admit I am wrong,then stop wasting your time . After all this thread wasnt intended just for greece,seriously there are more nations with extreme right wing parties

[Melas]

Oh, this "EU is undemocratic" shit again? Take it to the EU thread, please.

Ah... how I love your in depth rebuttals and arguments.

The EU crisis is an integral part of the rise of the right in Greece. The Greek government didn't enact austerity cause they felt like it. They were forced to by the Eurocrats in Brussels. To deny this is idiotic.

Also the EU is anti-democratic. When the former PM tried to have a referendum on the austerity, the EU basically had him ousted and replaced with a technocratic Yes-man.

Couldnt agree more apart from the last thing,they were all technocratic Yes-men

[Melas]

I finally found someone I agree with.

Is there room for one more?

[Melas]

Is there room for one more?

Of course. We sensible people ought to stick together against the anti-patriotic, leftist and Eurocratic hordes who will happily slash the elderly's pensions if it means saving the banks.

Already happened in greece
ya know 'austerity' and all

[Melas]

Of course. We sensible people ought to stick together against the anti-patriotic, leftist and Eurocratic hordes who will happily slash the elderly's pensions if it means saving the banks.

What if I'm a patriotic hardline leftist with anti-Euro views? I might also remind you that most truly left-wing parties oppose the Euro. The bailout economy is for right-wing fools and social democrats.

How can you be patriotic and leftist?

[Melas]

How can you be patriotic and leftist?

I'm a nationalist/left-wing nationalist, but I believe in a communist economy.

I thought so,cause communism itself could even be described as anti-patriotic

[Melas]

It's the politicians of Europe and the EU's own damn fault. It is they who ignore the will of the people and their own culture, and adopt ideas of multiculturalism, which does not belong to Europe nor any other nation. I won't say I sypathize with the fascist, but Europe's ultra-liberal politicians has yet to see that it is theirs fault, not the people's, that far right-wing parties is rising.

EXACTLY!!!

[Melas]

I know my shit, you don't. Socialism has not taken over Europe, that is such an incredibly mothercuntfuckingly STUPID thing to say. The problem with the world nowadays is the increasing corporatization of it at all levels, coupled with a rotting and destroying of public services and subordination of everything to markets! If socialism would've taken over Europe, Europe would be a fucking paradise like Scandinavia!

"I know my shit, you don't"
Best slogan for multiculturalism ever

Anyone else find it ironic that our honorary anti fascist seems to be the most easily disposed to profanity laced intolerance of others opinions?

Thats what leftists do.You cant imagine how many times I have heard commies say 'dont let the fasccists speak' and I usually laugh at the irony

[Melas]

Can we ignore Zaras nonsense? He is adding nothing to this debate other then inane 16 year old socialist spouting trash that is causing others in this thread to lose their tempers.

Thank you.
You are my hero.

Mine to

[Melas]

Thats what leftists do.You cant imagine how many times I have heard commies say 'dont let the fasccists speak' and I usually laugh at the irony

Man, I'm leftist and, although I think fascism it's the most repulsive ideology, I don't think it should be banned (like nazism in Germany) becouse It's, as you've said, very ironic.

Now, don't generalize, most leftists want freedom of speech, even to the fascists

Νοt in greece my friend.They even try to ban golden dawn as a party.And we dont ignore zaras cause he is liberal,more likely cause he has no points and calls us 'biggoted' and 'idiots' cause his liberal ideas are superior to ours

[Melas]

Pakis ... greek women on new year's eve is propaganda?

Excuse me? Where did YOU find info about those lies concerning Indians? You must be really messed up, bro.

AAHAHAHAHAHAH! Lies? are you kidding me?

[Melas]

AAHAHAHAHAHAH! Lies? are you kidding me?

Dude, really, we Indians would never do that. What right wing racist propaganda do you watch?

Ι have seen them,I knew people who were there,they were greeks celebrating new year's eve and bunch of pakis seperated the males from the wifes and daughters and started grabing their boobs and more... Even my own cousin was almost raped by a paki.

[Melas]

Ι have seen them,I knew people who were there,they were greeks celebrating new year's eve and bunch of pakis seperated the males from the wifes and daughters and started and more... Even my own cousin was almost by a paki.

Proof? Pictures? Videos?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boJk8cBA ... re=related

I have more

Νews about a paki raping and almost killing a 15 year old greek girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_JSSbFN ... re=related

[Melas]

Ι have seen them,I knew people who were there,they were greeks celebrating new year's eve and bunch of pakis seperated the males from the wifes and daughters and started grabing their boobs and more... Even my own cousin was almost raped by a paki.

Why didn't you report it to the fucking police then?

Why would I?It wasnt me and police no longer does anything,you call them for Pakis breaking into your house and they tell you to call golden dawn instead

[Melas]

Why would I?It wasnt me and police no longer does anything,you call them for Pakis breaking into your house and they tell you to call golden dawn instead

Quit making shit up, dude.

For my cousin assaulted or for the police not doing shit?

[Melas]

Ι have seen them,I knew people who were there,they were greeks celebrating new year's eve and bunch of pakis seperated the males from the wifes and daughters and started grabing their boobs and more... Even my own cousin was almost raped by a paki.

In what neighbourhood do you live? you must be a really,really poor guy ....but,then again you're arguing about this on the Internet,speaking English.

Peiraia .And this happened in syntagma

[Melas]

Peiraia .And this happened in syntagma

Gayraki e?
Anyway,fact is Athens and it's surroundings do have a problem but that's not immigration ..it's organisation.In my city(volioths eimai me katagwgh apo saloniki) we have a really large Albanian minority which is really productive and peacefull because they live between us and not in a ghetto or anything. ...we also are a really left-wing city,especially the Nea Ionia part.

Δεν μου αρεσει η μπαλα,αλλα οταν γενιεσαι πειραια γεννιεσαι γαυρος .
Same here,there are no albanian ghetos they are spread over the town.. unfortunately not much can be done by albanians they have preety much assimulated but they are still deuchebags.

[Melas]

wow, that's really crazy, our culture is very different from what you're describing, you should take action to it, yeah.?

what...

[Melas]

Δεν μου αρεσει η μπαλα,αλλα οταν γενιεσαι πειραια γεννιεσαι γαυρος .
Same here,there are no albanian ghetos they are spread over the town.. unfortunately not much can be done by albanians they have preety much assimulated but they are still deuchebags.

Και άμα ο πατέρας είναι Σαλονικιός γεννιέσαι ΠΑΟΚτζής!
See,if people live near they assimilate easier and start to understand each other ...and please don't generalise Albanians.

I know too many of them (they are like 40% of my shcool) and they are all the same,few exceptions but mostly deuchebags

[Melas]

I know too many of them (they are like 40% of my shcool) and they are all the same,few exceptions but mostly deuchebags

Can't agree,when I was in high school the class had 4 Albanians,they were pretty cool guys ..played really good football also.

You finished it? when?

[Melas]

How can this possibly be justified?
http://www.euronews.com/2012/09/09/gree ... t-vendors/

They do no harm, yet these thugs vandalised their stalls, DISGUSTING! You should all be deeply embarrassed!!!

NO,THE PAKIS SHOULD! These 'people' who do no harm are selling these things illegally and beat up the legal greek sellers of the area