Fascist rise in europe

[Socialist EU]

We already mentioned the Hungarian German French and Serbian parties but they keep hitting the greek one

Indeed. Let's not forget for a moment that most of Serbia's current leadership has never distanced itself, or has even actively endorsed or worked with, a man standing trial for the murder of thousands of muslims in the 1990s. Or that a lot of Hungarians would now vote for a party that wants to invade Romania. Or that a far-right party that has even denied the Holocaust is polling third. Or that some towns in Germany are now led completely by neo-nazis.

No, I said make them legal, I simply do not recognise "illegal immigration". What part of that do you not understand Mr strawman?

Lovely, but not quite true. How would they make money if they couldn't sell stolen goods, which is currently getting them their entire income?
They'd have no job, I'll tell you right now. It might be the ideal solution for you, but for them, and for the Greek people, and for all of Europe, it's a horrible deal in reality.

Carry on with your red herrings.

[Socialist EU]

You're the traitor to human liberation as far as I can see. You want to f**k humanity.

Which part of inviting massive groups of people without any perspective over is human liberation for you?
Which part of inviting millions of people over who do not believe in equal rights or freedom of expression is human liberation for you?

Er, the world is much larger than that of Greece. Do millions really want to go to Greece, I think not. Meanwhile the execs of Goldman Sachs are having a cocaine party and laughing at you for blaming those pesky immigrants.

[Socialist EU]

You're the traitor to human liberation as far as I can see. You want to f**k humanity.

No I dont she is ugly

Are you saying you're not human?

[Socialist EU]

Er, the world is much larger than that of Greece. Do millions really want to go to Greece, I think not. Meanwhile the execs of Goldman Sachs are having a cocaine party and laughing at you for blaming those pesky immigrants.

That's a useless conspiracy theory. I'm talking about all of Europe. Thing is, with the current situation, all large amounts of immigrants will just be added up to the sum of unemployment. They have no future here. If new immigrants arrive here, they generally aren't economically viable. Basically, current immigration policies are turning Europe into the refugee camp of the world. They can't really do anything because there's no hope for us, let alone new arrivals, and they just sit around being fed, cared for and housed by us. That's reality at the moment.

Oh, how you sound just like a mainstream politician right now from New Democracy. It is a documented fact that Goldman Sachs and the New Democracy government at that time, colloborated this scheme to fix the figures to join the Euro, the Greek government got burnt for it, you deny that! What a surprise.

[Socialist EU]

Probably the part where people get to live wherever they want, no matter their perspective.

Thereby undermining both our economy and that of their home country. Really, we aren't far away from famine if we carry on like this.
Realistically, allowing them to live wherever they want will mean that they all flock here until we go down like their home countries went down.
You've not solved one situation, you've created two.

http://www.nrc.nl/inbeeld/files/2012/10 ... 80x735.jpg
Here. Today. These people were asked to leave, though our government can't deport them, and now they've set up a tent camp.
This is their freedom? We have to feed them, meaning they're a burden to us, and they live in conditions even worse than those in their countries of origin.

Low and behold you should show empathy toward fellow human beings, that would just be too healthy wouldn't it? Better to be self-absorbed.

[Socialist EU]

Thereby undermining both our economy and that of their home country. Really, we aren't far away from famine if we carry on like this.
Realistically, allowing them to live wherever they want will mean that they all flock here until we go down like their home countries went down.
You've not solved one situation, you've created two.

http://www.nrc.nl/inbeeld/files/2012/10 ... 80x735.jpg
Here. Today. These people were asked to leave, though our government can't deport them, and now they've set up a tent camp.
This is their freedom? We have to feed them, meaning they're a burden to us, and they live in conditions even worse than those in their countries of origin.

Maybe if America and other Western nations spent more on aid and ensured the aid was delivered effectively, as opposed to maintaining large quantities of nuclear weapons and other pointless shite, then there wouldn't be such a huge problem.

It has a lot to do with the global hierarchy of states, this is what Quintium would call a conspiracy theory no doubt, it's his way of shutting off debate.

This global hierarchy of states is the reason why we have the IMF, the Inequality Maintainence Fund that fixes favourable trade terms to the west.

[Socialist EU]

Low and behold you should show empathy toward fellow human beings, that would just be too healthy wouldn't it? Better to be self-absorbed.

Ad hominem does not constitute a factual argument.
You've lost, my brother.

So you do have empathy then, I've yet to see it.

[Socialist EU]

Fascism (not national socialism) is 100x times better than hippienism

Fascism is a disgrace to humanity and I sincerely hope that the Greek government finds a way of dissolving Golden Dawn.

They are tree huggers to me

You're almost cute when you spout bullshit.

I really do not think Golden Dawn should be banned, I have to disagree with you there.
I agree with this though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY_n2BtvKIE

[Socialist EU]

Why should the west feed africa anyway?Shouldnt they have built economies by now?

You don't know how the world works do you?

http://www.laleva.cc/economy/worldbank.html

[Socialist EU]

Which is why South Korea, ravaged in the 1950s due to European and American superpowers fighting each other in a proxy war, has developed from a level of development similar to Uganda's to one eleven times better.

bu..but.. the white devils are to blame

No, it's our current ruling class. The bourgeoisie have democracy and rules that favour them, we do not have democracy from below, we do not get democracy in the workplace, ect. We get 5mins worth of democracy at the ballot box every 5yrs or so.

[Socialist EU]

You don't know how the world works do you?

http://www.laleva.cc/economy/worldbank.html

I stopped when I read 'world bank'

Meaning what, exactly?

[Socialist EU]

Meaning what, exactly?

It's probably a Jewish World Conspiracy^TM.

Is that part of their anti-intellectual property rights?

[Socialist EU]

I am not saying that,what I am asking is why do they steal need help?

Because there hasn't been enough help yet, I imagine.

Do you notice the freudian slip? How revealing of his prejudice, just being an African, non-European or non-caucasion is to be a thief.

[Souseiseki]

thousands of rockets hit Israel,

and the EU is all up in arms when the IDF moves in to defend themselves.

i too hold israel to the same standards as terrorists, so i don't really see a problem, but some multiculturalists do for some reason. it's not their fault 6x as many palestinans are killed compared with rockets, but this looks like it might be a derail.

so are you and ralkovia fellow fascists? i haven't kept up with NSG lately.

[Souseiseki]

Then do more than just dump immigrants in ghettos and then be surprised that they feel alienated and suffer from poverty, goddammit.

Yeah, deport them, don't let them in, and force them to leave.

i'm not sure if you're even serious but could you expand more on "them"?

[Souseiseki]

i'm not sure if you're even serious but could you expand more on "them"?

Immigrants.

all of them?

even the nice little ones from canada? ):

[Souseiseki]

What most people in this thread think they're talking about: Fascism.

What they're really talking about: Nationalism.

nationalism is kind of a thing in fascism

[Souseiseki]

Prove it by growing the fuck up and developing an adult, non-bigoted understanding of immigration.

Being an adult does not mean I have to be "non-bigoted."

wait so you're bigoted?

again explain

i asked what you meant by "them" because usually "them" has a very weird meaning

[Souseiseki]

Well, you haven't proved you're either of those, so nyeah!

But if you're against immigration, you're by definition uninformed.

No, it means my beliefs were differently formed than those of yours.

so are you bigoted?

[Souseiseki]

so hey abatael are you bigoted ):

You don't know shit about socialism, and oh damn I wish I didn't have to constantly run into people who keep needing to be told that.

Yes I do! And Socialism has taken over Europe, and stop acting like you know your crap you don't.

oh please tell us more

[Souseiseki]

I'm starting to think governments should focus a little more on job creation and protection rather than simply giving people a monthly check.

My view is that anyone on welfare who refuses a job when it's offered to them should have their welfare cut off. I guess some form of welfare is needed if a nation truly wants to be considered as first world. Though too large of a welfare state creates dependency and a weak or non-existent welfare system is just being heartless to the poor. A balance is always right.

man you must love workfare

[South East Europe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuR0hO4uX7E - Here's a campaign video for one of the most right-wing parties in Europe, and also one of the most popular ones.

thats not even close to right-wing.

[South East Europe]

That is not the definition of an adult. You can be bigoted, and be an adult.

Edit: I am well-functioning, and normal.

Nope, you aren't. You're a bigot who advocates ethnic cleansing. On a Venn diagram, that never intersects with being "well-functioning and normal".

You are the bigot here.

[South East Europe]

You know what? You little piece of crap, YOU DON'T crap! And I'll tell you why, your little Corp. conspiracy is true because of renown Socialist George Soros he is corrupting the governments of Europe and now the US.

George Soros isn't a socialist, he's just a poser.

And just because you're so fucking concerned about me as opposed to making an argument that doesn't rely on name-calling, I actually do crap. I'm not constipated, silly.

You are acting ten times more childish, you little runt.

[South East Europe]

You are the bigot here.

Making comically dumb accusations doesn't prove anything, mang. I'm not stupid enough to advocate that immigrants be thrown out of countries.

Ethnic cleansing means exterminating other races not throwing them out, people who dont contribute to society dont belong in said society.