American Presidential Debates Megathread

[PapaJacky]

Never heard of the Chinese?

Japanese use to be chinese and are not to this day.(that is fairly extreme)
Also the jews are still around after many attempts to kill em.

More Ethnic Chinese have died in history as a result of violence than any other ethnic group; including the Jews.

[Death Metal]

Because there's nothing worth stealing in rural areas?

so it's theft that's the issue, not guns.

Wrong. Theft is A factor. Not THE factor, or the major correlating factor, which is gun laws.

[North Calaveras]

so it's theft that's the issue, not guns.

Wrong. Theft is A factor. Not THE factor, or the major correlating factor, which is gun laws.

Rural areas have less population yet much denser amount of gun owners, if guns are the reason for violence then these people should be killing each other and robbing each other more often than people in the city...except that's NOT what happens.

Guns are not the problem, the people are.

[PapaJacky]

Wrong. Theft is A factor. Not THE factor, or the major correlating factor, which is gun laws.

Rural areas have less population yet much denser amount of gun owners, if guns are the reason for violence then these people should be killing each other and robbing each other more often than people in the city...except that's NOT what happens.

Guns are not the problem, the people are.

Again, like I've stated, guns is a problem in that they're an "allocator for violence". Solve teen pregnancy, drug abuse, and general economic downturn and violence, despite gun laws, are, almost overnight, guaranteed to be lower than before.

[Lessnt]

Japanese use to be chinese and are not to this day.(that is fairly extreme)
Also the jews are still around after many attempts to kill em.

More Ethnic Chinese have died in history as a result of violence than any other ethnic group; including the Jews.

That is because they breed faster than rabbits.And have a long tradition of riots revolution and totalitarianism.
Japanese are still very extreme in their traditions.

[North Calaveras]

Rural areas have less population yet much denser amount of gun owners, if guns are the reason for violence then these people should be killing each other and robbing each other more often than people in the city...except that's NOT what happens.

Guns are not the problem, the people are.

Again, like I've stated, guns is a problem in that they're an "allocator for violence". Solve teen pregnancy, drug abuse, and general economic downturn and violence, despite gun laws, are, almost overnight, guaranteed to be lower than before.

Teen pregnancy, drug abuse and economic downturn happen in the countryside(hell, i live in a small town being affected these things) as well, and people own MORE guns yet still have way less violent crime.

if guns are an allocator there should still be a lot of violence, but there isn't.

[Lessnt]

Rural areas have less population yet much denser amount of gun owners, if guns are the reason for violence then these people should be killing each other and robbing each other more often than people in the city...except that's NOT what happens.

Guns are not the problem, the people are.

Again, like I've stated, guns is a problem in that they're an "allocator for violence". Solve teen pregnancy, drug abuse, and general economic downturn and violence, despite gun laws, are, almost overnight, guaranteed to be lower than before.

Cause your choosing to give up some of your freedoms and civil rights in-exchange for saftey.
You know they did not even bother counting black people in crime statistics when they were slaves.
They did after they were freed.

[Death Metal]

Rural areas have less population yet much denser amount of gun owners, if guns are the reason for violence then these people should be killing each other and robbing each other more often than people in the city...except that's NOT what happens.

Okay, if population density that much of a deal... explain the Congo and it's homicide rate, which is SEVEN TIMES that of California?

[Lessnt]

Rural areas have less population yet much denser amount of gun owners, if guns are the reason for violence then these people should be killing each other and robbing each other more often than people in the city...except that's NOT what happens.

Okay, if population density that much of a deal... explain the Congo and it's homicide rate, which is SEVEN TIMES that of California?

Culture.
CULTURE>tools.

[Death Metal]

Population Density isn't much a factor #2: Hong Kong, AN ENTIRE CITY, has a 17 murders A YEAR. That's not per capita. That's TOTAL.

[North Calaveras]

Okay, if population density that much of a deal... explain the Congo and it's homicide rate, which is SEVEN TIMES that of California?

Culture.
CULTURE>tools.

thank you, it's the people not the weapon.

also kongo is in deep poverty so idk how you can blame guns when clearly the issue is lack of development.

[Lessnt]

Population Density isn't much a factor #2: Hong Kong, AN ENTIRE CITY, has a 17 murders A YEAR. That's not per capita. That's TOTAL.

Slaves do very little crime.

[SebastianTopia]

Right didn't really read through all 37 pages... but just gonna come in here an say that I am voting for Gary Johnson. Mitt Romney and Obama are almost the same candidate, with a few minor differences. Mitt Romney is evil, and Obama likes to lie. If anyone wants to argue, or tell me what people are arguing about right now.. then cool.

I love arguing, I would say that is not a great thing.

[Death Metal]

Population Density isn't much a factor #2: Hong Kong, AN ENTIRE CITY, has a 17 murders A YEAR. That's not per capita. That's TOTAL.

Slaves do very little crime.

Hong Kong is more economically free than the US.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

We should get on topic again.

[Death Metal]

Right didn't really read through all 37 pages... but just gonna come in here an say that I am voting for Gary Johnson. Mitt Romney and Obama are almost the same candidate, with a few minor differences. Mitt Romney is evil, and Obama likes to lie. If anyone wants to argue, or tell me what people are arguing about right now.. then cool.

I love arguing, I would say that is not a great thing.

Romney and Obama are pretty much polar opposites.

Gary Johnson is the absolute worst choice.

[Lessnt]

Slaves do very little crime.

Hong Kong is more economically free than the US.

And?
That has what to do with guns?

[SebastianTopia]

Right didn't really read through all 37 pages... but just gonna come in here an say that I am voting for Gary Johnson. Mitt Romney and Obama are almost the same candidate, with a few minor differences. Mitt Romney is evil, and Obama likes to lie. If anyone wants to argue, or tell me what people are arguing about right now.. then cool.

I love arguing, I would say that is not a great thing.

Romney and Obama are pretty much polar opposites.

Gary Johnson is the absolute worst choice.

And why is that?

Both want to keep Guantanamo bay. Obama lied there.
Both want to increase military spending. Obama said he wanted to end the wars. He ended the Iraq won. Kept a "Special Forces" squad there. Increased support to Israel. Bombed Libya and sent Drones into Yemen.
Obama has increased spending, and not cut enough taxes, plunging us deeper into debt. Romney would put us even deeper into debt.
Obama is for the patriot act.
Obama signed a bill allowing US citizens to be detained indefinitely without trial or charge.
Johnson: Would cut spending across the board, stop spending so much money in the wars. That is the only real way to get out of our deficit. Pro Gay and Choice. Opposes that bill, Guantanamo bay, the patriot act.

[Death Metal]

Hong Kong is more economically free than the US.

And?
That has what to do with guns?

Just pointing out they're not "slaves". They have plenty of economic and social freedom.

[North Calaveras]

Romney and Obama are pretty much polar opposites.

Gary Johnson is the absolute worst choice.

And why is that?

Both want to keep Guantanamo bay. Obama lied there.
Both want to increase military spending. Obama said he wanted to end the wars. He ended the Iraq won. Kept a "Special Forces" squad there. Increased support to Israel. Bombed Libya and sent Drones into Yemen.
Obama has increased spending, and not cut enough taxes, plunging us deeper into debt. Romney would put us even deeper into debt.
Obama is for the patriot act.
Obama signed a bill allowing US citizens to be detained indefinitely without trial or charge.
Johnson: Would cut spending across the board, stop spending so much money in the wars. That is the only real way to get out of our deficit. Pro Gay and Choice. Opposes that bill, Guantanamo bay, the patriot act.

yup

if this next presidency dosn't work out that's it, i don't care I will be changing my party and voting for a third party candidate, this is the last chance i give to both the dems and reps.

[Lessnt]

And?
That has what to do with guns?

Just pointing out they're not "slaves". They have plenty of economic and social freedom.

I do not believe that now as hong kong belongs to china nows.

[SebastianTopia]

And why is that?

Both want to keep Guantanamo bay. Obama lied there.
Both want to increase military spending. Obama said he wanted to end the wars. He ended the Iraq won. Kept a "Special Forces" squad there. Increased support to Israel. Bombed Libya and sent Drones into Yemen.
Obama has increased spending, and not cut enough taxes, plunging us deeper into debt. Romney would put us even deeper into debt.
Obama is for the patriot act.
Obama signed a bill allowing US citizens to be detained indefinitely without trial or charge.
Johnson: Would cut spending across the board, stop spending so much money in the wars. That is the only real way to get out of our deficit. Pro Gay and Choice. Opposes that bill, Guantanamo bay, the patriot act.

yup

if this next presidency dosn't work out that's it, i don't care I will be changing my party and voting for a third party candidate, this is the last chance i give to both the dems and reps.

Vote Gary Johnson, and make a statement. I need a microscope to find a difference between these two. Only tiny social issues. I am fed up with the two main parties. I voted Obama 2008 and he failed miserably.

[PapaJacky]

More Ethnic Chinese have died in history as a result of violence than any other ethnic group; including the Jews.

That is because they breed faster than rabbits.And have a long tradition of riots revolution and totalitarianism.
Japanese are still very extreme in their traditions.

No, they've had a technological advantage in agriculture and they kept it. Essentially, before the collapse of Rome, Western and Eastern caloric outputs were about the same, and as such, their populations were pretty much the same. However, after the collapse of Rome, the fragments of Rome last that technological edge and their average caloric yields declined. Despite participating in frequent civil insurrections, China never lost their technological headstrongness, and they kept their overall agricultural advantage until the Industrial revolution. Even then, Mao was the person that propelled China to where they are today, after he died, China had hundreds of millions more people than they started with,

Again, like I've stated, guns is a problem in that they're an "allocator for violence". Solve teen pregnancy, drug abuse, and general economic downturn and violence, despite gun laws, are, almost overnight, guaranteed to be lower than before.

Teen pregnancy, drug abuse and economic downturn happen in the countryside(hell, i live in a small town being affected these things) as well, and people own MORE guns yet still have way less violent crime.

if guns are an allocator there should still be a lot of violence, but there isn't.

...it's called scale. When you have a dozen bad teen fathers in a small Texas town, they aren't gonna form a gang. If you have 10 dozen of those guys in L.A., they are.

Culture.
CULTURE>tools.

thank you, it's the people not the weapon.

also kongo is in deep poverty so idk how you can blame guns when clearly the issue is lack of development.

The DRC doesn't have a "culture of violence". They have diamonds, guns, and Rwandan invaders to shoot.

[Lessnt]

That is because they breed faster than rabbits.And have a long tradition of riots revolution and totalitarianism.
Japanese are still very extreme in their traditions.

No, they've had a technological advantage in agriculture and they kept it. Essentially, before the collapse of Rome, Western and Eastern caloric outputs were about the same, and as such, their populations were pretty much the same. However, after the collapse of Rome, the fragments of Rome last that technological edge and their average caloric yields declined. Despite participating in frequent civil insurrections, China never lost their technological headstrongness, and they kept their overall agricultural advantage until the Industrial revolution. Even then, Mao was the person that propelled China to where they are today, after he died, China had hundreds of millions more people than they started with,

Teen pregnancy, drug abuse and economic downturn happen in the countryside(hell, i live in a small town being affected these things) as well, and people own MORE guns yet still have way less violent crime.

if guns are an allocator there should still be a lot of violence, but there isn't.

...it's called scale. When you have a dozen bad teen fathers in a small Texas town, they aren't gonna form a gang. If you have 10 dozen of those guys in L.A., they are.

thank you, it's the people not the weapon.

also kongo is in deep poverty so idk how you can blame guns when clearly the issue is lack of development.

The DRC doesn't have a "culture of violence". They have diamonds, guns, and Rwandan invaders to shoot.

Sounds like a culture of violence lol.

[North Calaveras]

That is because they breed faster than rabbits.And have a long tradition of riots revolution and totalitarianism.
Japanese are still very extreme in their traditions.

No, they've had a technological advantage in agriculture and they kept it. Essentially, before the collapse of Rome, Western and Eastern caloric outputs were about the same, and as such, their populations were pretty much the same. However, after the collapse of Rome, the fragments of Rome last that technological edge and their average caloric yields declined. Despite participating in frequent civil insurrections, China never lost their technological headstrongness, and they kept their overall agricultural advantage until the Industrial revolution. Even then, Mao was the person that propelled China to where they are today, after he died, China had hundreds of millions more people than they started with,

Teen pregnancy, drug abuse and economic downturn happen in the countryside(hell, i live in a small town being affected these things) as well, and people own MORE guns yet still have way less violent crime.

if guns are an allocator there should still be a lot of violence, but there isn't.

...it's called scale. When you have a dozen bad teen fathers in a small Texas town, they aren't gonna form a gang. If you have 10 dozen of those guys in L.A., they are.

thank you, it's the people not the weapon.

also kongo is in deep poverty so idk how you can blame guns when clearly the issue is lack of development.

The DRC doesn't have a "culture of violence". They have diamonds, guns, and Rwandan invaders to shoot.

the diamonds cause violence NOT THE GUNS

Guns don't have this willpower to posses people. If there weren't diamonds and these other problems you wouldn't even have the same scale of violence.