If Romney Wins, Wither the Democrats?

[Gauthier]

If somehow Obama loses, we're not going to see the pussy-whipped Democratic Party of old. They'll get angry and viciously partisan especially given what the GOP did to Obama. They'll snap and maybe even go beyond progressive at that point. Uberpopulist and given the demographics the GOP has explicitly shit on, they won't be lacking in numbers any time soon.

[Demen 2]

While I do agree with this, I must say one thing; Romney won't win.




.. Right?

[Ostroeuropa]

While I do agree with this, I must say one thing; Romney won't win.




.. Right?

*Silence in the room as everyone exhanges worried looks.*

*cut to a title card ELECTION DAY.*

[Trotskylvania]

If somehow Obama loses, we're not going to see the pussy-whipped Democratic Party of old. They'll get angry and viciously partisan especially given what the GOP did to Obama. They'll snap and maybe even go beyond progressive at that point. Uberpopulist and given the demographics the GOP has explicitly shit on, they won't be lacking in numbers any time soon.

I immensely doubt it. The Democratic Party apparatus is an immensely top-down, authoritarian institution. It's organizational structure ensures elite interests will continue to be dominant within the party.

[PapaJacky]

It's unlikely. Hardcore democratic electoral votes outnumber hardcore republican electoral votes. Romney would have to win pretty much all the battleground states in order to get to 270.

Hell, according to the Huffington Post, Obama has 265 electoral votes in the bag, Romney has 191.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/201 ... ctoral-map

[Gauthier]

If somehow Obama loses, we're not going to see the pussy-whipped Democratic Party of old. They'll get angry and viciously partisan especially given what the GOP did to Obama. They'll snap and maybe even go beyond progressive at that point. Uberpopulist and given the demographics the GOP has explicitly shit on, they won't be lacking in numbers any time soon.

I immensely doubt it. The Democratic Party apparatus is an immensely top-down, authoritarian institution. It's organizational structure ensures elite interests will continue to be dominant within the party.

Unless people get the idea that the old structure didn't work or somehow contributed to the loss.

[Silent Majority]

I immensely doubt it. The Democratic Party apparatus is an immensely top-down, authoritarian institution. It's organizational structure ensures elite interests will continue to be dominant within the party.

Unless people get the idea that the old structure didn't work or somehow contributed to the loss.

My understanding is that the current structure keeps people from pulling a Ron Paul. If Obama loses, they will probably keep the same structure, as the party leaders will want to have control of the party.

[Geilinor]

You're forgetting that the GOP is fractured. The true libertarians/classical liberals will mass migrate to the Libertarian Party, because that wing of the Republicans will feel alienated by the social authoritarians.

[Vetalia]

I immensely doubt it. The Democratic Party apparatus is an immensely top-down, authoritarian institution. It's organizational structure ensures elite interests will continue to be dominant within the party.

And if the Democrats made that kind of shift there would certainly be a major split/defection that would wreck the party.

The biggest strength the Democrats possess right now is they've got a strong "big tent" appeal that brings in people who are disenchanted with the Republicans, i.e. pretty much anybody not in agreement with the solidly right-conservative Republican platform. With the exception of those already aligned with a third party many people can find some element of the Democratic Party that fits their views whether on a local or national level; comparatively, the Republicans have postured themselves to be a lot more exclusive and rigid ideologically, which isn't inherently a bad thing (and could be a strength in fact depending on the situation) but does cost them a lot of votes.

Full disclosure: I am in fact a registered Republican.

Of course, those who know me around here would know I'm of the Eisenhower type, a rarity these days although I hope to see us shift back to that centrist model as it was best for the nation back then and would be best now.

[Saluterre]

...It's possible that this could result in the Democratic Party getting wiped from the pages of history; it's also possible that under the pressures of extreme resistance to the GOP, the Democratic Party might split, become radicalized, or end up getting overtaken by a more radical party of the left (like the Greens or the Socialists)...

How dare you make me want to vote for Romney!

[Williamson]

While I do agree with this, I must say one thing; Romney won't win.




.. Right?

oh god i hope you right.

[Wamitoria]

If somehow Obama loses, we're not going to see the pussy-whipped Democratic Party of old. They'll get angry and viciously partisan especially given what the GOP did to Obama. They'll snap and maybe even go beyond progressive at that point. Uberpopulist and given the demographics the GOP has explicitly shit on, they won't be lacking in numbers any time soon.

I immensely doubt it. The Democratic Party apparatus is an immensely top-down, authoritarian institution. It's organizational structure ensures elite interests will continue to be dominant within the party.

However, that still doesn't mean that the elite will not simply imitate the Republican's tactics. After all, the Obama campaign has explicitly been doing that for the last year.

The Democratic Party may be an incredibly hierarchical organization, but they really, really hate to lose.

[Wamitoria]

...It's possible that this could result in the Democratic Party getting wiped from the pages of history; it's also possible that under the pressures of extreme resistance to the GOP, the Democratic Party might split, become radicalized, or end up getting overtaken by a more radical party of the left (like the Greens or the Socialists)...

How dare you make me want to vote for Romney!

That radical party would be in the minority for at least 4 years and the country would go to hell in a handbasket before they had a chance to gain power.

[Losylvania]

In a grim way, I want this to happen. It would be interesting to the extreme to watch such a progression of events.

[Tarvelia]

Well all I can say, is I'm gonna laugh anyway.


If Romney wins, I'm gonna enjoy all the liberals on MSLSD foam at the mouth, and even possibly suffer from a cerebral detenation. Clueless as to how their Annointed One has lost.

If Obama wins, I'm gonna laugh even harder knowing we're going to get exactly what we deserve from this man-child running our economy. And OMGosh, I share my nation with imbeciles who'd sell their nation for an Obama-Phone!

I'm gonna sit-back in my couch, with some Orange Chicken and ice-cold Dr. Pepper, watching the elections. On which network I have not decided... MSLSD seems to be the comical alternative.

[The Black Forrest]

Well all I can say, is I'm gonna laugh anyway.


If Romney wins, I'm gonna enjoy all the liberals on MSLSD foam at the mouth, and even possibly suffer from a cerebral detenation. Clueless as to how their Annointed One has lost.

If Obama wins, I'm gonna laugh even harder knowing we're going to get exactly what we deserve from this man-child running our economy. And OMGosh, I share my nation with imbeciles who'd sell their nation for an Obama-Phone!

I'm gonna sit-back in my couch, with some Orange Chicken and ice-cold Dr. Pepper, watching the elections. On which network I have not decided... MSLSD seems to be the comical alternative.

Is there a point in there somewhere?

[Neu California]

Well all I can say, is I'm gonna laugh anyway.


If Romney wins, I'm gonna enjoy all the liberals on MSLSD foam at the mouth, and even possibly suffer from a cerebral detenation. Clueless as to how their Annointed One has lost.

If Obama wins, I'm gonna laugh even harder knowing we're going to get exactly what we deserve from this man-child running our economy. And OMGosh, I share my nation with imbeciles who'd sell their nation for an Obama-Phone!

I'm gonna sit-back in my couch, with some Orange Chicken and ice-cold Dr. Pepper, watching the elections. On which network I have not decided... MSLSD seems to be the comical alternative.

I'm assuming MSLSD is MSNBC?

Also, no one in the democratic party thinks Obama is "the annointed one"

And what's your point?

[The Black Forrest]

If Mitt somehow wins, I can see the Demos bending over to some degree for the "good of the country"

God help us if he does.......

[Wikkiwallana]

I'm probably coming off as someone who sees the GOP as a bunch of monsters. Let me say that I think that someone can be led by faulty thinking into doing monstrous things without being a monster per se. That doesn't excuse the things that get done under such circumstances; what it should do, however, is give us pause when it comes to passing judgement on those responsible.

One of my favorite quotes is on just that very subject:

There are hardly any excesses of the most crazed psychopath that cannot easily be duplicated by a normal kindly family man who just comes in to work every day and has a job to do.

[Wikkiwallana]

If I may say with all due respect to the OP, his analysis of the GOP's position should the Democrats win this election while fairly spot on and quite potentially true, his analysis of the aftermath of a GOP victory is, in the eyes of this non-American, rambling doommongering. The GOP has an obvious heavy fanatical wing but they are hardly fascists, they aren't nearly organised and, I dont think, nearly ruthless enough. Well, not ruthless in the way they'd need to be. If they win yes they may seek to consolidate their holdings but they are hardly going to go all Enabling Act on the left wing of American politics. I hate to call Godwin's Law but its kind of necessary here.

Not to be overly harsh, but did you sleep through the debt ceiling debacle?

[Coltarin]

It may actually cause a schism in the party. The more radical ones would split and form their own party blaming the hierarchy for the loss. But with any luck if (when) Obama wins I'm pretty sure the more centrist Republicans will leave for the libertarians. On a different note I find it hilarious that some republicans keep comparing themselves to Reagan when in reality the Democrats are practicing a modernized Reagan doctrine of negotiation and attempted bi-partisanship. That said it's very unlikely that Romney will will, he's just pissed off too many people, and he keeps blatantly lying. I just cannot be under a man who openly welcomed an old man cussing at an empty chair for twelve minutes.

[The Black Forrest]

It may actually cause a schism in the party. The more radical ones would split and form their own party blaming the hierarchy for the loss. But with any luck if (when) Obama wins I'm pretty sure the more centrist Republicans will leave for the libertarians. On a different note I find it hilarious that some republicans keep comparing themselves to Reagan when in reality the Democrats are practicing a modernized Reagan doctrine of negotiation and attempted bi-partisanship. That said it's very unlikely that Romney will will, he's just pissed off too many people, and he keeps blatantly lying. I just cannot be under a man who openly welcomed an old man cussing at an empty chair for twelve minutes.

libertarians? Nahh. I don't seem them gaining much out of this.

[Gauthier]

If Mitt somehow wins, I can see the Demos bending over to some degree for the "good of the country"

God help us if he does.......

If Romney actually wins, I'm half wondering if it will turn out like The Dead Zone.

[Linux and the X]

And OMGosh, I share my nation with imbeciles who'd sell their nation for an Obama-Phone!

Sorry, what's an "Obama-Phone"?

[New England and The Maritimes]

If Mitt somehow wins, I can see the Demos bending over to some degree for the "good of the country"

God help us if he does.......

If Romney actually wins, I'm half wondering if it will turn out like The Dead Zone.

It starts off with Mitt Romney gathering the seven dragon balls, because Shenlong is basically his only path to victory right now.