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Postby Zaras » Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:00 pm

The Three Cantons wrote:
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I've known some Bulgarians, and can't say I've noticed anything different besides language.

You're gonna have to be more specific.



THEIR FACES SCREAM "I AM STARVING"


No, they don't. Europe's got a pretty good food security goin' on. The starvation tends to be more common in Africa, unfortunately. (Thanks, IMF and World Bank.)
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The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.

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Postby The Three Cantons » Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:01 pm

Zaras wrote:
The Three Cantons wrote:

THEIR FACES SCREAM "I AM STARVING"


No, they don't. Europe's got a pretty good food security goin' on. The starvation tends to be more common in Africa, unfortunately. (Thanks, IMF and World Bank.)


Ok,I withdraw.

I just tell what I saw when I went there when I was 14.......
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Postby Zaras » Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:09 pm

The Three Cantons wrote:
Zaras wrote:
No, they don't. Europe's got a pretty good food security goin' on. The starvation tends to be more common in Africa, unfortunately. (Thanks, IMF and World Bank.)


Ok,I withdraw.

I just tell what I saw when I went there when I was 14.......


Were you in Sofia?
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Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.

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Postby Freiheit Reich » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:19 pm

L Ron Cupboard wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:Islam is a cult, not a religion. Islamization is the most dangerous issue the world is facing today. Muslims are smart enough to know they can conquer democartic nations by immigrating there and changing the nation through their superior numbers. They can then create sharia laws using the European nations democratic policies against them. The only way to save Europe is to stop immigration from Muslim nations and deport any Islamic troublemakers back to their home countries.

How many Christians are invading Iran, Pakistan, or Somalia and trying to force their views on the people there? Norway is proving their ignorance again. Malmo, Sweden has a Muslim mayor. Islamization is happening because the Europeans are allowing it. It makes me sad to see this.


It makes me sad that people hold ignorant, factually innaccurate opinions like yours.


The Muslim religion has it written in their Quran that it is Ok to kill non-believers. Muslims will never speak out against those versus. Why is it OK for Muslims to hate other religions but ignorant for Christians to fear their "religion" (cult). Look up Mohammed. He was not a nice guy like many Americans ignorantly believe he was. I only want Muslims to stay in their sandbox, they can practice their relgion but they should tolerate others. I don't think it is good to tolerate hate groups. Their religion preaches hate, pure and simple.
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Postby PapaJacky » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:22 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:
L Ron Cupboard wrote:
It makes me sad that people hold ignorant, factually innaccurate opinions like yours.


The Muslim religion has it written in their Quran that it is Ok to kill non-believers. Muslims will never speak out against those versus. Why is it OK for Muslims to hate other religions but ignorant for Christians to fear their "religion" (cult). Look up Mohammed. He was not a nice guy like many Americans ignorantly believe he was. I only want Muslims to stay in their sandbox, they can practice their relgion but they should tolerate others. I don't think it is good to tolerate hate groups. Their religion preaches hate, pure and simple.


It's ignorant for any Religion to do so, don't play the victim. Killing non-believers is as stupid as stoning disobedient children.

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Postby Freiheit Reich » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:25 pm

Kvatchdom wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:Islam is a cult, not a religion. Islamization is the most dangerous issue the world is facing today. Muslims are smart enough to know they can conquer democartic nations by immigrating there and changing the nation through their superior numbers. They can then create sharia laws using the European nations democratic policies against them. The only way to save Europe is to stop immigration from Muslim nations and deport any Islamic troublemakers back to their home countries.

How many Christians are invading Iran, Pakistan, or Somalia and trying to force their views on the people there? Norway is proving their ignorance again. Malmo, Sweden has a Muslim mayor. Islamization is happening because the Europeans are allowing it. It makes me sad to see this.


Christians are trying to force their views on me. How is she a troublemaker?

Also, Muslism come to Europe in search of peace and secularism, not to spread their religion. And remember the crusades, where Christians massacred Muslims in order to give more power to Christianity.


She is not a troublemaker so she should be allowed to stay. However, the French African Muslims that rioted should have been deported. If they hate France so much why do they stay? Obviously France is better than Algeria so they should be grateful for being allowed to stay there. They obviously are not grateful so kick them out. A lot of Muslims are committing violent crimes in Europe. Haven't you heard of the 'no go zones' in Rotterdam, Paris, and Malmo? In the USA many Somali immigrants are causing problems as well, there are even Somali gangs. They can't fit in so they should go!

The Crusades are always brought up. Mohammed killed to spread his faith in the early days. Muslim was often spread by the sword. What about the past 50 years? What religion has done the most killing? What are Muslims doing to Christians in Sudan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Nigeria? They are not innocent. Don't forget Theo Van Gogh was killed because he offended a Muslim. Also what about the London train bombings? Was that a message of peace?
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Postby Srboslavija » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:27 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:Islam is a cult, not a religion. Islamization is the most dangerous issue the world is facing today. Muslims are smart enough to know they can conquer democartic nations by immigrating there and changing the nation through their superior numbers. They can then create sharia laws using the European nations democratic policies against them. The only way to save Europe is to stop immigration from Muslim nations and deport any Islamic troublemakers back to their home countries.

How many Christians are invading Iran, Pakistan, or Somalia and trying to force their views on the people there? Norway is proving their ignorance again. Malmo, Sweden has a Muslim mayor. Islamization is happening because the Europeans are allowing it. It makes me sad to see this.


Islam is not simply a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life. Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components. Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well. As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens.

Continued

This is the case in:

United States -- Muslim 0.6%

Australia -- Muslim 1.5%

Canada -- Muslim 1.9%

China -- Muslim 1.8%

Italy -- Muslim 1.5%

Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.

This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%

Germany -- Muslim 3.7%

United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%

Spain -- Muslim 4%

Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France -- Muslim 8%

Philippines -- 5%

Sweden -- Muslim 5%

Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%

The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%

Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:

Guyana -- Muslim 10%

India -- Muslim 13.4%

Israel -- Muslim 16%

Kenya -- Muslim 10%

Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%

Chad -- Muslim 53.1%

Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and ***ya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%

Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%

Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%

Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%

Egypt -- Muslim 90%

Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%

Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%

Iran -- Muslim 98%

Iraq -- Muslim 97%

Jordan -- Muslim 92%

Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%

Pakistan -- Muslim 97%

Palestine -- Muslim 99%

Syria -- Muslim 90%

Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%

Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%

United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%

Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%

Somalia -- Muslim 100%

Yemen -- Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:30 pm

Fransikania wrote:
Warshania wrote:
Norway is not like Sweden or France. Muslims there are still a small minority.
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Only 5% of the Swedish populations are Muslims
and in France it is between 5% and 10 %

So muslims are a small minoraty in both France and Sweden


For now they are a minority but what about their high birth rates? Look how fast their population has increased since 1990. Their growth is exponential, they are clever. They know they can win the religious war by having more babies than Christians and Jews. The average Somali and Afghan has 5-6 babies while the average French lady is pushing out 1-2. It doesn't take a genius to see they will get the majority quick unless immigration policies change. I used to believe people should have less babies since the world is too crowded but I think Christians need to be encouraged to have more babies if they can afford to as a way of fighting back.
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Postby PapaJacky » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:30 pm

Srboslavija wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:Islam is a cult, not a religion. Islamization is the most dangerous issue the world is facing today. Muslims are smart enough to know they can conquer democartic nations by immigrating there and changing the nation through their superior numbers. They can then create sharia laws using the European nations democratic policies against them. The only way to save Europe is to stop immigration from Muslim nations and deport any Islamic troublemakers back to their home countries.

How many Christians are invading Iran, Pakistan, or Somalia and trying to force their views on the people there? Norway is proving their ignorance again. Malmo, Sweden has a Muslim mayor. Islamization is happening because the Europeans are allowing it. It makes me sad to see this.


Islam is not simply a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life. Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components. Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well. As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens.

Continued

This is the case in:

United States -- Muslim 0.6%

Australia -- Muslim 1.5%

Canada -- Muslim 1.9%

China -- Muslim 1.8%

Italy -- Muslim 1.5%

Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.

This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%

Germany -- Muslim 3.7%

United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%

Spain -- Muslim 4%

Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France -- Muslim 8%

Philippines -- 5%

Sweden -- Muslim 5%

Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%

The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%

Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:

Guyana -- Muslim 10%

India -- Muslim 13.4%

Israel -- Muslim 16%

Kenya -- Muslim 10%

Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%

Chad -- Muslim 53.1%

Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and ***ya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%

Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%

Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%

Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%

Egypt -- Muslim 90%

Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%

Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%

Iran -- Muslim 98%

Iraq -- Muslim 97%

Jordan -- Muslim 92%

Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%

Pakistan -- Muslim 97%

Palestine -- Muslim 99%

Syria -- Muslim 90%

Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%

Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%

United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%

Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%

Somalia -- Muslim 100%

Yemen -- Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims


The greatest part of this post is the inferred replacement of the Qur'an and it's teachings in place with radical Islam :lol:

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Postby Freiheit Reich » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:36 pm

Srboslavija wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:Islam is a cult, not a religion. Islamization is the most dangerous issue the world is facing today. Muslims are smart enough to know they can conquer democartic nations by immigrating there and changing the nation through their superior numbers. They can then create sharia laws using the European nations democratic policies against them. The only way to save Europe is to stop immigration from Muslim nations and deport any Islamic troublemakers back to their home countries.

How many Christians are invading Iran, Pakistan, or Somalia and trying to force their views on the people there? Norway is proving their ignorance again. Malmo, Sweden has a Muslim mayor. Islamization is happening because the Europeans are allowing it. It makes me sad to see this.


Islam is not simply a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life. Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components. Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well. As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens.

Continued

This is the case in:

United States -- Muslim 0.6%

Australia -- Muslim 1.5%

Canada -- Muslim 1.9%

China -- Muslim 1.8%

Italy -- Muslim 1.5%

Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.

This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%

Germany -- Muslim 3.7%

United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%

Spain -- Muslim 4%

Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France -- Muslim 8%

Philippines -- 5%

Sweden -- Muslim 5%

Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%

The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%

Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:

Guyana -- Muslim 10%

India -- Muslim 13.4%

Israel -- Muslim 16%

Kenya -- Muslim 10%

Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%

Chad -- Muslim 53.1%

Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and ***ya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%

Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%

Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%

Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%

Egypt -- Muslim 90%

Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%

Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%

Iran -- Muslim 98%

Iraq -- Muslim 97%

Jordan -- Muslim 92%

Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%

Pakistan -- Muslim 97%

Palestine -- Muslim 99%

Syria -- Muslim 90%

Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%

Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%

United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%

Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%

Somalia -- Muslim 100%

Yemen -- Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims


Excellent, I am glad you showed this. I read this awhile ago and it is perfectly simple to understand and accurate. Sadly, people say these factual massages are just "hateful" even if it is the truth. People want to keep their heads in the sand until it is too late.
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Postby PapaJacky » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:38 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Srboslavija wrote:
Islam is not simply a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life. Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components. Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well. As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens.

Continued

This is the case in:

United States -- Muslim 0.6%

Australia -- Muslim 1.5%

Canada -- Muslim 1.9%

China -- Muslim 1.8%

Italy -- Muslim 1.5%

Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.

This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%

Germany -- Muslim 3.7%

United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%

Spain -- Muslim 4%

Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France -- Muslim 8%

Philippines -- 5%

Sweden -- Muslim 5%

Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%

The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%

Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:

Guyana -- Muslim 10%

India -- Muslim 13.4%

Israel -- Muslim 16%

Kenya -- Muslim 10%

Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%

Chad -- Muslim 53.1%

Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and ***ya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%

Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%

Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%

Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%

Egypt -- Muslim 90%

Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%

Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%

Iran -- Muslim 98%

Iraq -- Muslim 97%

Jordan -- Muslim 92%

Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%

Pakistan -- Muslim 97%

Palestine -- Muslim 99%

Syria -- Muslim 90%

Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%

Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%

United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%

Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%

Somalia -- Muslim 100%

Yemen -- Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims


Excellent, I am glad you showed this. I read this awhile ago and it is perfectly simple to understand and accurate. Sadly, people say these factual massages are just "hateful" even if it is the truth. People want to keep their heads in the sand until it is too late.


I don't see how it's accurate though. I'm sure a few American Islamists have been on the news before, which just out right disproves the "2% threshold" hypothesis.

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Postby Ralkovia » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:57 pm

PapaJacky wrote:
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Excellent, I am glad you showed this. I read this awhile ago and it is perfectly simple to understand and accurate. Sadly, people say these factual massages are just "hateful" even if it is the truth. People want to keep their heads in the sand until it is too late.


I don't see how it's accurate though. I'm sure a few American Islamists have been on the news before, which just out right disproves the "2% threshold" hypothesis.


Not really. America has focused on scientology etc. We spotlight nearly everything, plus we're in the Middle East right now. It'd make sense.
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I don't see how it's accurate though. I'm sure a few American Islamists have been on the news before, which just out right disproves the "2% threshold" hypothesis.


Not really. America has focused on scientology etc. We spotlight nearly everything, plus we're in the Middle East right now. It'd make sense.


Nah, that's just the internet. American Muslim Extremists are the big deal here.

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Freiheit Reich wrote:The Muslim religion has it written in their Quran that it is Ok to kill non-believers.


And it also has verses that emphasise being friends with the "people of the book", and not being aggressive towards others. Both the Qur'an and Bible are schizophrenic as fuck - the New Testament's emphasis on peace is pretty shocking after all the graphic, God-approved slaughter in the Old Testament

Muslims will never speak out against those versus.


Yes they do, you just don't look hard enough.

Why is it OK for Muslims to hate other religions but ignorant for Christians to fear their "religion" (cult).


Because all the major Abrahamic religions have this fucking stupid idea at their basis that their religion is best and all others suck. Remember the whole "Thou shalt have no other gods before me"? Yeah, y'can argue Christianity introduced this totalitarian component to religion, destroying the more open-minded, syncretic approach of the Roman Empire.

Look up Mohammed. He was not a nice guy like many Americans ignorantly believe he was.


So? This has been rehashed over and over. I don't see how this is any different from the founding fathers being slaveowners.

I only want Muslims to stay in their sandbox, they can practice their relgion but they should tolerate others.


They already do that.

I don't think it is good to tolerate hate groups. Their religion preaches hate, pure and simple.


You're confusing Islam as a whole with its ridiculous sects like Wahhabism. You have to remember when talking about Islam that it's not a fucking hivemind, it's a religion splintered into just about as many sects as Christianity.

Oh, and don't bring up the whole genital mutilation and women's rights thing. For its time, the Qur'an was very progressive on women's rights. Practices like genital mutilation and subjugation are more to blame on local conditions, poverty, lack of education and idiots twisting the Quran for their own ends.
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It makes me sad that people hold ignorant, factually innaccurate opinions like yours.


The Muslim religion has it written in their Quran that it is Ok to kill non-believers. Muslims will never speak out against those versus. Why is it OK for Muslims to hate other religions but ignorant for Christians to fear their "religion" (cult). Look up Mohammed. He was not a nice guy like many Americans ignorantly believe he was. I only want Muslims to stay in their sandbox, they can practice their relgion but they should tolerate others. I don't think it is good to tolerate hate groups. Their religion preaches hate, pure and simple.


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Freiheit Reich wrote:If they hate France so much why do they stay?


Because they like being in France but don't want to be treated like second-class citizens. Simple as that.

Obviously France is better than Algeria so they should be grateful for being allowed to stay there.


No. Fuck that. Gratefulness has no place in immigration. Once you start with "you should be grateful to be here" you've taken the first step on the slippery slope towards toxic nationalism and xenophobia.

A lot of Muslims are committing violent crimes in Europe.


Not in particularly larger numbers than other citizens.

Haven't you heard of the 'no go zones' in Rotterdam, Paris, and Malmo?


No, but your lack of facts leads me to believe that they don't actually exist, and you made 'em up.

They can't fit in so they should go!


That is the stupidest fucking idea I've ever heard in my life. Hooray ethnic cleansing! Throw out everybody who's different!

The Crusades are always brought up.


Because they show Christians really have no moral ground to criticise Muslims for being violent when they've done that too.

Mohammed killed to spread his faith in the early days. Muslim was often spread by the sword.


What, you think Christianity was spread peacefully?

What about the past 50 years? What religion has done the most killing?


Even if Muslims committed gigantic genocides every day for the past 50 years, they still wouldn't be CLOSE to matching the killing and atrocities committed by Western Christian countries over the entire course of history since the beginning of colonization. It's funny how people criticize Muslims for doing the exact same thing Christians used to do in the past.

What are Muslims doing to Christians in Sudan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Nigeria?


Answer your own question, dude.

They are not innocent.


Neither are Christians, or any other religion.

Don't forget Theo Van Gogh was killed because he offended a Muslim.


And George Tiller was killed for offended a Christian. What's your point?

Also what about the London train bombings?


Don't confuse a few extremist shitheads with all Muslims.
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Srboslavija wrote:Islam Christianity is not simply a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life. Islam Christianity has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.


Fix'd that for you so you can tell that this accusation isn't exclusive to Islam.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.


You're so hate-blind you're confusing "Islamization" with "letting Muslim immigrants practice their beliefs and not being dickbags to them".

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.


You can't source this bullshit, so please stop wasting time with it.

As long as the Muslim Jewish population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens.


Does that seem wrong to you now?

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.


Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims.


No different than Jews pushing for the introduction of kosher food. HOW DASTARDLY.

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law.


The fact that they have ghettos in the first place is proof that whatever government in charge was full of fucking feces-flinging monkeys when it comes to immigration.

The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.


And Islamists do not constitute even the majority of Muslims.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:


Stop plagiarising from the British Nazi Party.

Re: Paris, it has more to do with the poverty and lack of opportunity in the banlieues, silly. Plus, there's been no uprisings in Amsterdam.

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%


None of this has happened in Ethiopia. WHOOPSIE YOUR ENTIRE THEORY IS A PILE OF FUCKING SHIT.

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%


Bosnia is because of ethnic tensions and history. Lrn2history, dude.

Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%


Also, lrn2history.

Albania -- Muslim 70%


It's funny how Albania is a European democracy with freedom of the press, human rights and shit.

Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%


Malaysia's crappiness is to blame on the people who've run it since independence.

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%


Not happening in any way, shape or form in Bangladesh.

Egypt -- Muslim 90%


If Muslims hate everybody else so much, how come Muslims risked their lives to protect Christians in the wake of an Egyptian terrorist attack? How come Egypt's still 10% Christian then?

Iran -- Muslim 98%


How come Zoroastrianism, Christianity and Judaism are both legal and constitutionally protected in Iran then? How come that cunt Ayatollah Khomeini still had enough brains to issue a fatwa in 1979 ordering the Jewish and other minorities to be treated well?

Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%


It's funny how I have a Moroccan classmate and she never mentions her evil plan to institute Sharia.

If you want to blame somebody for Morocco, blame King Hassan II and his years of lead.

Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%


Turkey is a constitutional democracy with freedom of speech (in spite of idiotic limitations like not insulting Atatürk), secular government, the military as a fierce defender of said secularism, and not as many human rights abuses as you think. Stop spewing shit and start making arguments that have a bearing on reality, please.
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Not really. America has focused on scientology etc. We spotlight nearly everything, plus we're in the Middle East right now. It'd make sense.


Nah, that's just the internet. American Muslim Extremists are the big deal here.


Probably the Ebil Mozlem theory at work - a Christian terrorist attack is the work of a lone deranged wolf, but a Muslim terrorist attack is to blame on the entire community.
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Postby Baltenstein » Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:21 am

Bosnia is because of ethnic tensions and history. Lrn2history, dude.


Bosnia is an especially warped example, considering the massacres in Bosnia were perpetrated mainly by Serbian and Croatian terror squads, with Bosnian Muslims being the chief victims.
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Bosnia is because of ethnic tensions and history. Lrn2history, dude.


Bosnia is an especially warped example, considering the massacres in Bosnia were perpetrated mainly by Serbian and Croatian terror squads, with Bosnian Muslims being the chief victims.


Which is something that somebody would know by studying Bosnian history. Even a cursory Wikipedia glance would be enough.
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Only 5% of the Swedish populations are Muslims
and in France it is between 5% and 10 %

So muslims are a small minoraty in both France and Sweden


For now they are a minority but what about their high birth rates? Look how fast their population has increased since 1990. Their growth is exponential, they are clever. They know they can win the religious war by having more babies than Christians and Jews. The average Somali and Afghan has 5-6 babies while the average French lady is pushing out 1-2. It doesn't take a genius to see they will get the majority quick unless immigration policies change. I used to believe people should have less babies since the world is too crowded but I think Christians need to be encouraged to have more babies if they can afford to as a way of fighting back.


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Freiheit Reich wrote:For now they are a minority but what about their high birth rates? Look how fast their population has increased since 1990. Their growth is exponential, they are clever. They know they can win the religious war by having more babies than Christians and Jews. The average Somali and Afghan has 5-6 babies while the average French lady is pushing out 1-2. It doesn't take a genius to see they will get the majority quick unless immigration policies change. I used to believe people should have less babies since the world is too crowded but I think Christians need to be encouraged to have more babies if they can afford to as a way of fighting back.


Learn fucking demographics already. High birth rates in their countries are a result of lower life expectancy and higher rates of deaths at birth. Their demographic growth has tapered off once they moved to other countries.

Plus, why the fuck do Christians need to make more babies? Give an answer that isn't full of ranting, paranoid, Islamophobic John Bircher borderline white supremacist bullshit plz.
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Postby Greater Phenia » Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:07 pm

The vitriolic bigotry spewed about Muslims is not different from that spewed about Jews - and it's the same sort of people who do it now: nationalistic, xenophobic, far-right fearmongers. Their imbecilic arguments, twisted definitions, and irrational justifications are not worth addressing, except perhaps as symptoms of some kind of mental disorder and a need for better health care.

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Greater Phenia wrote:The vitriolic bigotry spewed about Muslims is not different from that spewed about Jews - and it's the same sort of people who do it now: nationalistic, xenophobic, far-right fearmongers. Their imbecilic arguments, twisted definitions, and irrational justifications are not worth addressing, except perhaps as symptoms of some kind of mental disorder and a need for better health care.


It's hilarious how people go on rants against Muslims and never bother to notice that if they replaced "Muslims" with "Jews", they sound like Hitler.
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:09 pm

Zaras wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:For now they are a minority but what about their high birth rates? Look how fast their population has increased since 1990. Their growth is exponential, they are clever. They know they can win the religious war by having more babies than Christians and Jews. The average Somali and Afghan has 5-6 babies while the average French lady is pushing out 1-2. It doesn't take a genius to see they will get the majority quick unless immigration policies change. I used to believe people should have less babies since the world is too crowded but I think Christians need to be encouraged to have more babies if they can afford to as a way of fighting back.


Learn fucking demographics already. High birth rates in their countries are a result of lower life expectancy and higher rates of deaths at birth. Their demographic growth has tapered off once they moved to other countries.

Plus, why the fuck do Christians need to make more babies? Give an answer that isn't full of ranting, paranoid, Islamophobic John Bircher borderline white supremacist bullshit plz.


Christianity is not a 'white only religion', most Hispanics are also Christian. I never mentioned race. Christains need more bebies in order to make sure their religion is #1 in the world in population. Power in numbers is important in any war (and there is a war going on right now). Christian parents can raise their children to practice their faith. Palestine parents are teaching their children to hate Jews (look on you tube, there is even a children's show teaching anti-Jewish messages). You are right, they have less babies when they move to western nations but their birth rate is still higher than the natives.
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