New Chinese Carrier, any thoughts?

[Samuraikoku]

Japan has Evangelions, mechas, and the Britannian navy on their side. So.

Muteki no chikara wa bokura no tame ni.

[Norstal]

Powerful nation owns aircraft carrier. You don't say.

^This.

I'm surprised they didn't have one already. Hell, we could probably lower our debt with them down a bit if we sold them some of ours...

China's like Fat Albert. Always late to the party. Or something.

[Chinese Regions]

Japan has Evangelions, mechas, and the Britannian navy on their side. So.

And Uchuu Senkan Yamato.

[Ozzy]

There probably not going to attack the US any time soon, but sorry the Us should always be on guard. No one like the nation on top. Sorry where all not a bunch of nice people. Country's has interests not friends. This is a nice world people...Sorry.

Nope, the United States must not expect an invasion from China. Especially since the 2 country's entire economies rely on one another, not even mentioning the United States owes $15 trillion to China!

[Pope Joan]

My favorite Chinese carrier
http://0.tqn.com/d/chinesefood/1/0/W/E/ ... s_tray.jpg

[Lackadaisical2]

So they fixed a rubbish Carrier that Russia threw away? Big deal they still lack the equipment and people to run it. They've got jackshit in the way of carrier aircraft and I guarantee you that no one in their navy has the know-how to run them. They've got an old hulk running. But they lack the ability to effectively use it. They're still years away from having a practical carrier group. As of now all it is is a penis enlargement pill for diplomacy. Its worrying yes, but not something to be concerned about too much.

Aye, it'll probably be their training ship for new crews once they figure out how to make their own carriers.

[The Corparation]

So they fixed a rubbish Carrier that Russia threw away? Big deal they still lack the equipment and people to run it. They've got jackshit in the way of carrier aircraft and I guarantee you that no one in their navy has the know-how to run them. They've got an old hulk running. But they lack the ability to effectively use it. They're still years away from having a practical carrier group. As of now all it is is a penis enlargement pill for diplomacy. Its worrying yes, but not something to be concerned about too much.

Aye, it'll probably be their training ship for new crews once they figure out how to make their own carriers.

Pretty much sums it up. Its not really going to see any sort of use outside of training.

[Gig em Aggies]

My favorite Chinese carrier
http://0.tqn.com/d/chinesefood/1/0/W/E/ ... s_tray.jpg

nice one dude nice one

[Daistallia 2104]

I can see this being a large problem for Eastern Asia. China is the last nation that should have a carrier, especially a Kuznetsov-class. Especially with the Kuril Islands dispute going on right now.

Oh noez! The MSM seizes on on a PRC propaganda stunt to try and scare you for a little profit. Film at 11.

People who think that this has anything to do with the Kurils should refrain from commenting on geopolitical affairs until they have some small clue.

We can start to take the PRC seriously as a blue water power when they start investing in many more support ships and minesweepers.

If you're going to worry about the PRC, worry about the reasons behind the latest trumped up dispute with Japan.

[Aquestia]

The Liaoning is technically a training vessel for PLAN pilots to prepare when a domestically-built carrier, most likely a CATOBAR carrier with Nimitz- or Ford-class capability. At the very least, it may be a helicopter carrier with capability similar to the Invincible class or the old Kiev class. Note that China has the Shenyang J-15 (essentially a rebadged and rebranded Sukhoi Su-33), and has combat stats similar to the American F/A-18E Super Hornet, and is also developing the J-31, presumably another carrier fighter that has stealth and two engines, along with F-35 spec styling. They also have the Ka-27 Helix antisubmarine helicopter they can use to threaten subs in the South China Sea, and plenty of modern tech retrofitted for carrier ops. Not exactly a very good start, but it still works.

Most likely the ship will be deployed to the Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands to combat Japanese influence, or the South China Sea (what China calls the South Sea) to strengthen China's hold on the sea itself, not just the Spratly Islands (Nansha Dao) or Scarborough Shoal (Xisha Dao).

[Ethel mermania]

I wonder when they get their second carrier? And how much better will it be than the first one?

[Pingxiang]

Read the following if you want to find out what China has supposedly planned.

In the past 20 years, China has been actively retired aircraft carrier purchased from other countries, in order to master the technology needed to develop aircraft carriers. Chinese media has reported that Chinese-made aircraft carrier construction work will be conducted in two phases: the first stage of the construction of four gas turbine equipped with the aircraft carrier, two of which manufacture is completed in the 2015-2016 years ago, displacement in the 5 -5.5 tons; in the second phase will start construction of a displacement of 65,000 tons of nuclear-powered aircraft carrier. In other words, the Chinese navy will eventually build four to six aircraft carrier battle groups, were stationed in the South China Sea and East China Sea waters.

The 2018 Aircraft Carriers and Destroyers should resemble something like this.



Description of te 2018 Carriers and Destroyers

Electromagnetic guns in front and behind of 180 guided missile destroyer, and two anti-submarine underwater robots.The apron can open, which has a lift catapult that can catapult UAV, when task is completed, UAV lands on the sea, taken back by helicopter.Vertical silo in the middle of 108 launchs anti-ship missiles and cruise missiles.

The three destroyers each have a phased-array radar, so the software used is the same, in order to facilitate the exchange of information and weapons systems are also standard equipment, this software system is called China Aegis, and information sharing is a major feature of the three warships, but the main thing is Remote Assistance of the three warships, that is, one of them also can controls the other’s weapons systems.

The early warning aircraft of them is called Maritime Police 2000.

This a planned amphibious assault helicopter carrier


This is the DF-21D anti-ship ballistic missile which can even sink a carrier from 1609 KM. (1000 miles). Missile is launched from land and supposedly goes into low orbit before coming down.

[Phocidaea]

Japan has Evangelions, mechas, and the Britannian navy on their side. So.

I see you've done you research on anime, given that you don't group Evangelions as "mechas".

[Khodoristan]

THERE ARE OVER ONE BILLION CHINESE ON EARTH, AND MORE IN CHINA.

THAT'S TEN TIMES THE POPULATION OF AMERICA.

EUROPE IS FILLED WITH OLD PEOPLE.

IF WE DON'T ACT NOW, THE YELLOW PERIL WILL FLOOD THE EARTH AND SUBJUGATE ALL IN ITS WAYS.

FIRST CAME CHINESE FOOD. I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING, BECAUCE CHINESE FOOD IS TASTY.

THEN CAME CHINESE LABOUR. I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING, BECAUSE CHINESE LABOUR IS CHEAP.

THEN CAME CHINESE CARRIERS, AND THERE WAS NO-ONE LEFT TO SAY ANYTHING BECAUSE THEIR MOUTHS WERE FULL OF CHINESE FOOD.

Allcaps needed to warn the world about the terrible peril that has befallen it as the yellow peril breaks free of its shackles and once more threatens our glorious white civilisation.

This is so funny I vomited, not even joking.

[Nidaria]

Carriers are already outdated. A single low-flying missile can sink one of them.

[Trevion]

Carriers are already outdated. A single low-flying missile can sink one of them.

Yeah, a nuclear missile.

[Khodoristan]

Read the following if you want to find out what China has supposedly planned.

In the past 20 years, China has been actively retired aircraft carrier purchased from other countries, in order to master the technology needed to develop aircraft carriers. Chinese media has reported that Chinese-made aircraft carrier construction work will be conducted in two phases: the first stage of the construction of four gas turbine equipped with the aircraft carrier, two of which manufacture is completed in the 2015-2016 years ago, displacement in the 5 -5.5 tons; in the second phase will start construction of a displacement of 65,000 tons of nuclear-powered aircraft carrier. In other words, the Chinese navy will eventually build four to six aircraft carrier battle groups, were stationed in the South China Sea and East China Sea waters.

The 2018 Aircraft Carriers and Destroyers should resemble something like this.



Description of te 2018 Carriers and Destroyers

Electromagnetic guns in front and behind of 180 guided missile destroyer, and two anti-submarine underwater robots.The apron can open, which has a lift catapult that can catapult UAV, when task is completed, UAV lands on the sea, taken back by helicopter.Vertical silo in the middle of 108 launchs anti-ship missiles and cruise missiles.

The three destroyers each have a phased-array radar, so the software used is the same, in order to facilitate the exchange of information and weapons systems are also standard equipment, this software system is called China Aegis, and information sharing is a major feature of the three warships, but the main thing is Remote Assistance of the three warships, that is, one of them also can controls the other’s weapons systems.

The early warning aircraft of them is called Maritime Police 2000.

This a planned amphibious assault helicopter carrier


This is the DF-21D anti-ship ballistic missile which can even sink a carrier from 1609 KM. (1000 miles). Missile is launched from land and supposedly goes into low orbit before coming down.

The DF-21 is utter bs. China doesn't have the OTH Radar capability or the long-range ELINT drones to guide the missile during its terminal phase. And not only that, it's not hard to kill a DF-21 on reentry. Just fire a volley of RIM-163's and RIM-174, and the warheads and decoys will be destroyed, or at the very least, deflected away from the carrier. Add CIWS, lasers, and KKV's, and the DF-21 becomes very weak very fast.

And by 2015, the USN/ROKN/JMSDF will have new tech that can kill a DF-21 before it even hits LEO.

[Dyakovo]

The Kuznetsov is antiquated trash. Hell, the South Koreans possess the ability to sink it. China will fail on the Oceans.

/\ This.

[Blazedtown]

Carriers, big floating targets for missiles. Or, more probably railguns.

Wanna know the Russian plan for attacking an American carrier group? Bombard it with 8 200 kiloton nuclear missiles just to disable the carrier groups electronic warfare capabilities enough for a kill shot with conventional missiles. That was during the Cold War. Technology has come a long way since the 1980s, carries aren't as easy to kill as you think.

[Ethel mermania]

The Kuznetsov is antiquated trash. Hell, the South Koreans possess the ability to sink it. China will fail on the Oceans.

/\ This.

The purpose of this boat has nothing to do with warmaking ability in 2012. It is the first step to the chinese navy of 2045.

[Khodoristan]

/\ This.

The purpose of this boat has nothing to do with warmaking ability in 2012. It is the first step to the chinese navy of 2045.

Which, in 2045, will be 50 years behind the U.S.

[Northwest Slobovia]

The Liaoning is technically a training vessel for PLAN pilots to prepare when a domestically-built carrier, most likely a CATOBAR carrier with Nimitz- or Ford-class capability.

I'm always amused by that acronym, since CATO is used in rocketry for "catastrophe at take-off".

Most likely the ship will be deployed to the Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands to combat Japanese influence, or the South China Sea (what China calls the South Sea) to strengthen China's hold on the sea itself, not just the Spratly Islands (Nansha Dao) or Scarborough Shoal (Xisha Dao).

Nah, I don't see anything like an operational deployment for it. They'll keep it well within their territorial waters if for no other reason than avoiding the embarrassment if some genius were to do something stupid with it (collision with another ship, run aground on a shoal, or similar typical new toy boo-boos).

[Pingxiang]

The purpose of this boat has nothing to do with warmaking ability in 2012. It is the first step to the chinese navy of 2045.

Which, in 2045, will be 50 years behind the U.S.

All wishful thinking on your part. Engineers are the ones who will develop many of the new military items of the future. Read the following. Study by Duke University.

The study also states that in 2011, while roughly 70,000 engineers graduated in the US, 6,00,000 graduated in China and 3,50,000 in India.

[Soviet Russia Republic]

I think it is good that the PRC is building its military strength, especially with its air and sea forces and defense systems in relation to both. The US has increased its build up of military assets aimed at the China, so it only makes sense for it to increases expansion and the advancement of its military capabilities. Good for the SCO too. Its too bad China has a history of copying weapons on a large scale, Russia and China could take part in military cooperation on the scale Russia and India do.

[Ethel mermania]

The purpose of this boat has nothing to do with warmaking ability in 2012. It is the first step to the chinese navy of 2045.

Which, in 2045, will be 50 years behind the U.S.

you think so? in 1980 a honda civic was a cheap piece of crap, compared to the rest of the market.
in 1990 hyundia was a cheap peace of crap compared to the rest of the market.

How is that working out for american auto industry these days?