Should the U.S Support Netanyahu?

[Sulamalik]

They're opponents because they stand in the way of American aims.

It's been proven by Gauthier on multiple occasions that lesser people mean brown people. He's a big fan of making huge generalizations and offering extremist conclusions.

Actually the US rightwing does that all by itself.

To be fair, a frighteningly large segment of the US rightwing does that all by itself.

[Not Safe For Work]

What gives America the right to quash others in pursuit of its "aims"?

'Exceptionalism'. Usually described in the phrasing "America, Fuck Yeah!"

It is right, because it is American. Not because it is defensible or has any merits of it's own.

It's a bankrupt philosophy, and has consistently blown-up in our faces. Sometimes literally.

[Gauthier]

Actually the US rightwing does that all by itself.

To be fair, a frighteningly large segment of the US rightwing does that all by itself.

And that frighteningly large segment pushes support for Israel out of some notion that Israel going up in flames will send a Bat Signal to Jesus and get the Second Coming on.

[Zaras]

They're opponents because they stand in the way of American aims.

America's aims are a bunch of shit anyway.

[The God-Realm]

No because Israel is a illegitimate state.

[Ralkovia]

They're opponents because they stand in the way of American aims.

What gives America the right to quash others in pursuit of its "aims"?

It's been proven by Gauthier on multiple occasions that lesser people mean brown people. He's a big fan of making huge generalizations and offering extremist conclusions.

American foreign policy consists of genuinely attacking brown people, drawing huge generalisations and offering extremist conclusions.

America is a super power and such things are required to keep pax americana about. If you think its about oil, your naive. It isn't about oil, its about global finance and trade.

Americas foreign policy is about keeping America a super power in the World. It doesnt matter what color your skin is.

[Socialist Republic of Chichistan]

The US should support Ahmadinejad if it truly cares about stability in the ME; Israel is a far larger threat to stability and peace than any Islamic state within the region.

[North California]

Israel can handle Iran on its own. The US does not need another war. It's high time we pulled out of the Middle East entirely. All the oil and opium wars and nation building don't do anyone any good. They just waste money and lives.

[Sulamalik]

Israel can handle Iran on its own. The US does not need another war. It's high time we pulled out of the Middle East entirely. All the oil and opium wars and nation building don't do anyone any good. They just waste money and lives.

Hear, hear!

[Ralkovia]

They're opponents because they stand in the way of American aims.

America's aims are a bunch of shit anyway.

American Aims ensure the west remains the dominant power in the World. In case you don't know what that means, you get to work in an office rather than in a grueling factory. You get a car, rather than having to walk. Fresh water rather than left over mud rain.

[Divair]

Israel can handle Iran on its own. The US does not need another war. It's high time we pulled out of the Middle East entirely. All the oil and opium wars and nation building don't do anyone any good. They just waste money and lives.

The one thing leftists and libertarians can agree on:
Non-interventionism.

[Socialist Republic of Chichistan]

Israel can handle Iran on its own. The US does not need another war. It's high time we pulled out of the Middle East entirely. All the oil and opium wars and nation building don't do anyone any good. They just waste money and lives.

"Israel" can't handle Iran on its own, otherwise it would've struck Iran ages ago; Israel's military is nothing without US support. I'm not saying that Iran would be able to conquer "Israel" on its own either though

[Sulamalik]

America's aims are a bunch of shit anyway.

American Aims ensure the west remains the dominant power in the World. In case you don't know what that means, you get to work in an office rather than in a grueling factory. You get a car, rather than having to walk. Fresh water rather than left over mud rain.

Last time I checked you can have all those things without invading countries and killing poor people.

[Gravlen]

We? So Finland is going to invade Iran?

We, as in, the West. Finland, NATO countries, Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand..

After the misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq, you won't find any of these willing to invade Iran unless Iran strikes first.

[Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f]

American Aims ensure the west remains the dominant power in the World. In case you don't know what that means, you get to work in an office rather than in a grueling factory. You get a car, rather than having to walk. Fresh water rather than left over mud rain.

Last time I checked you can have all those things without invading countries and killing poor people.

Didn't you know that Iceland invaded Outer Mongolia the other day?

[Not Safe For Work]

American Aims ensure the west remains the dominant power in the World. In case you don't know what that means, you get to work in an office rather than in a grueling factory. You get a car, rather than having to walk. Fresh water rather than left over mud rain.

Last time I checked you can have all those things without invading countries and killing poor people.

It's weird, actually. Ralkovia is actually arguing for American inferiority here, even though it looks like an argument for American exceptionalism.

[Svetar]

Iran must NEVER get nuclear weapons. It's incompetent government has proven that it would be too dangerous for them to obtain such capabilities. The US doesn't need to support Israel anymore than we already are. Besides the Israeli military will steamroll Iran as they are. A red line though should be placed on the development process. I mean this is the same country that thought the west had a sinister plot to destroy Irans rain clouds.

[Ralkovia]

American Aims ensure the west remains the dominant power in the World. In case you don't know what that means, you get to work in an office rather than in a grueling factory. You get a car, rather than having to walk. Fresh water rather than left over mud rain.

Last time I checked you can have all those things without invading countries and killing poor people.

The Russians and former soviet blocs disagree. They lost everything when there economy collapsed. Protecting America and its interests comes foremost. What happens to those interests affects me. I don't pretend to be moral, I'm motivated out of self-interest. If I lived in Iran or China or somewhere else, I'd have different beliefs. I live in the US and support the goal of keeping us a dominant power in the World.

[The Nuclear Fist]

If I lived in Iran or China or somewhere else, I'd have different beliefs. I live in the US and support the goal of keeping us a dominant power in the World.

So you're an admitted sociopath, then?

Because wanting to rule the world atop a mountain of blood and ashes is a sign of sociopathy or megalomania, often both.

[Not Safe For Work]

Iran must NEVER get nuclear weapons. It's incompetent government has proven that it would be too dangerous for them to obtain such capabilities.

Just to give you something to think about - you can replace 'Iran' in your sentence with 'The US', and it's arguably equally valid.

Food for thought.

[Ralkovia]

If I lived in Iran or China or somewhere else, I'd have different beliefs. I live in the US and support the goal of keeping us a dominant power in the World.

So you're an admitted sociopath, then?

Because wanting to rule the world atop a mountain of blood and ashes is a sign of sociopathy or megalomania, often both.

self interest and sociopathy are two different things. Please don't confuse them.

[Divair]

Last time I checked you can have all those things without invading countries and killing poor people.

The Russians and former soviet blocs disagree. They lost everything when there economy collapsed. Protecting America and its interests comes foremost. What happens to those interests affects me. I don't pretend to be moral, I'm motivated out of self-interest. If I lived in Iran or China or somewhere else, I'd have different beliefs. I live in the US and support the goal of keeping us a dominant power in the World.

The USSR's economy didn't collapse because they failed to invade countries.

If anything, their enormous expenditure on military equipment and invasions damaged their economy.

[Svetar]

Iran must NEVER get nuclear weapons. It's incompetent government has proven that it would be too dangerous for them to obtain such capabilities.

Just to give you something to think about - you can replace 'Iran' in your sentence with 'The US', and it's arguably equally valid.

Food for thought.

Too bad we already have nuclear weapons. The least we can do is stop Iran from getting them.

[Sulamalik]

Just to give you something to think about - you can replace 'Iran' in your sentence with 'The US', and it's arguably equally valid.

Food for thought.

Too bad we already have nuclear weapons. The least we can do is stop Iran from getting them.

The US actually can't though.

[Svetar]

Too bad we already have nuclear weapons. The least we can do is stop Iran from getting them.

The US actually can't though.

We CAN. We just won't.