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what is so bad about it?

You should give us your point of view on the OP. It's expected of the OP.

Because it's done with vacuums.

It's not.

Because babies or some such bollocks.

Because some people seem to play a slideshow of pictures of babies to, "I've Got a Reason to Live" everytime they hear the word.

And you should give your own opinion in the OP.

well, I for one think there is nothing wrong with it. in fact, an unborn child is sort of like a parasite, as it takes nutrients from the mother. and also, if it cannot survive on it's own (needs to take nutrients from someone else's body) then it is not technically alive. plus, as long as it is in the mother's body and takes nutrients from her, it is a part of her body. it can die if she dies. and what if a woman were to be raped, and from that rape, became pregnant and had no money to pay for the child? hmm? what then?

United States of Natan wrote:well, I for one think there is nothing wrong with it. in fact, an unborn child is sort of like a parasite, as it takes nutrients from the mother. and also, if it cannot survive on it's own (needs to take nutrients from someone else's body) then it is not technically alive. plus, as long as it is in the mother's body and takes nutrients from her, it is a part of her body. it can die if she dies. and what if a woman were to be raped, and from that rape, became pregnant and had no money to pay for the child? hmm? what then?

Are you glad your mom didn't feel that way?

United States of Natan wrote:... if it cannot survive on it's own (needs to take nutrients from someone else's body) then it is not technically alive.

YES IT IS YES IT IS YES IT IS BIOLOGY DOES NOT WORK THE WAY YOU ARE USING IT

United States of Natan wrote:well, I for one think there is nothing wrong with it. in fact, an unborn child is sort of like a parasite, as it takes nutrients from the mother. and also, if it cannot survive on it's own (needs to take nutrients from someone else's body) then it is not technically alive. plus, as long as it is in the mother's body and takes nutrients from her, it is a part of her body. it can die if she dies. and what if a woman were to be raped, and from that rape, became pregnant and had no money to pay for the child? hmm? what then?

And some people consider the fetus a person and, when a pregnancy's terminated, they equate it with murder. That's why some consider it bad.

I don't see a problem with abortion. I think it's a woman's choice to decide what she'll permit happening in her body.

Some people think killing babies is bad.

To be a parasite you have to be a different species than the host. "The fetus is a parasite" is not much of an argument, biologically.

Yankee Empire wrote:Some people think killing babies is bad.

Yeah, this kind of bollocks. There isn't even a baby involved.

Sun Tea wrote:To be a parasite you have to be a different species than the host. "The fetus is a parasite" is not much of an argument, biologically.

Yeah, it's much more like a tumor.

It's not.

I mean I use to believe that it creates an irresponsible society, but I've come to realize that a woman should be allowed to engage in sex without fear of it destroying her career or life.

Capitolinium wrote:

United States of Natan wrote:well, I for one think there is nothing wrong with it. in fact, an unborn child is sort of like a parasite, as it takes nutrients from the mother. and also, if it cannot survive on it's own (needs to take nutrients from someone else's body) then it is not technically alive. plus, as long as it is in the mother's body and takes nutrients from her, it is a part of her body. it can die if she dies. and what if a woman were to be raped, and from that rape, became pregnant and had no money to pay for the child? hmm? what then?

Are you glad your mom didn't feel that way?

my mom did not get an abortion because she had no need to. in fact, she and my dad were trying to have me. and there is nothing wrong with abortion. it is the woman's choice. and also, what if the mother could die from the pregnancy or birth?

Cause babies don't ripen till after birth.

It differs but many times it has to do with it being considered life. I personally am against doing away with them since they seem to have a high chance of becoming a human by the time they are found out to be, well, developing. Well, higher chance versus a single sperm, egg, or carrot.

And for some odd reason I hold people as more valuable than most organisms I would kill such as plants(they count as organisms right?) certain insects and whatever. The only reason i really eat port of beef over human is that the former are more available as a food source(I really am not taking my time to kill a human when i could easily purchase a hamburger) and I do care about m reputation somewhat(I hear cannibalism is looked down upon by some parts of society). Also, last, I have in the past been able to get closer to humans than i have with a pig. But believe me, if I had to pick between a boney pig or big meaty human I would probably eat the human-unless I have bad history with the big and/or good history with the human.

Preventing people from being born in the first place is ethically the same as letting them be born and then killing them.

Raeyh wrote:Preventing people from being born in the first place is ethically the same as letting them be born and then killing them.

Prove it.

Raeyh wrote:Preventing people from being born in the first place is ethically the same as letting them be born and then killing them.

OMG this is so weird because i was sleeping earlier and you were in my dream. I was reading a thread and I saw your account making a lot of posts. That or it was in real life...I really am bad at telling the difference.

Capitolinium wrote:

United States of Natan wrote:well, I for one think there is nothing wrong with it. in fact, an unborn child is sort of like a parasite, as it takes nutrients from the mother. and also, if it cannot survive on it's own (needs to take nutrients from someone else's body) then it is not technically alive. plus, as long as it is in the mother's body and takes nutrients from her, it is a part of her body. it can die if she dies. and what if a woman were to be raped, and from that rape, became pregnant and had no money to pay for the child? hmm? what then?

Are you glad your mom didn't feel that way?

Why does this feel like an argument to some people?

No I am not. It is difficult to even conceive of having never been conscious, much less regret the notion.

its a good thing really

if we make abortion mandatory for all countries except the united states and norway, we can eliminate all the competition

United States of Natan wrote:well, I for one think there is nothing wrong with it. in fact, an unborn child is sort of like a parasite, as it takes nutrients from the mother. and also, if it cannot survive on it's own (needs to take nutrients from someone else's body) then it is not technically alive. plus, as long as it is in the mother's body and takes nutrients from her, it is a part of her body. it can die if she dies. and what if a woman were to be raped, and from that rape, became pregnant and had no money to pay for the child? hmm? what then?

Perhaps you are still a parasite?

Okay, I guess I should sort of contribute to the thread instead of just saying, "OP, you don't understand Bio." So here we go!

Done!

United States of Natan wrote:what is so bad about it?

What's so bad about murder?