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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:38 pm

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What bothers me about this post is that you seem to see women as interchangeable objects for your use, differentiated primarily by physical characteristics such as body shape and hair color. You discriminate based on arbitrary aesthetic standards as though such trivial distinctions could accurately determine another human being's worth, or her compatibility as a partner. Women are not types of things to be selected because of slight physical deviations, the way you would go to a store and choose one brand of soda over another. Women are people, each with her own individual thoughts and feelings. It baffles me why any woman would knowingly choose to be with someone who thought of them in such a manner. I can only assume that they have either been conditioned to think that being treated that way in unavoidable, or they do not know that you are being superficial. Either way, it is disturbing to me that anyone would select a mate for the color of her hair or the shape of her body. Her hair will probably turn white someday, and when she gets older, she will probably gain weight. If you picked her for her body, what will you have left?

And men are not chosen by women on by how successful they are? Women want a nice car, a nice house, a shitton of money, a shit ton of jewels, and they kick the less successful men away.

Don'r pretend women are more oppressed than us.


You're placing all women in a rather greedy light.

Not all women want a shit ton of jewels. I can assure you that I, personally, could care less for jewels. All I want is a man who's good to me, who doesn't abuse me, who keeps me safe and makes me feel loved and respected.

If a nice car, a nice house and a lot of money are included in that, I would consider those a bonus, but I don't really care if they happen. That is not what relationships or love are based on. Or at least, they shouldn't be.
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Postby Snail-land » Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:43 pm

The God-Realm wrote:
Snail-land wrote:
What bothers me about this post is that you seem to see women as interchangeable objects for your use, differentiated primarily by physical characteristics such as body shape and hair color. You discriminate based on arbitrary aesthetic standards as though such trivial distinctions could accurately determine another human being's worth, or her compatibility as a partner. Women are not types of things to be selected because of slight physical deviations, the way you would go to a store and choose one brand of soda over another. Women are people, each with her own individual thoughts and feelings. It baffles me why any woman would knowingly choose to be with someone who thought of them in such a manner. I can only assume that they have either been conditioned to think that being treated that way in unavoidable, or they do not know that you are being superficial. Either way, it is disturbing to me that anyone would select a mate for the color of her hair or the shape of her body. Her hair will probably turn white someday, and when she gets older, she will probably gain weight. If you picked her for her body, what will you have left?

And men are not chosen by women on by how successful they are? Women want a nice car, a nice house, a shitton of money, a shit ton of jewels, and they kick the less successful men away.

Don'r pretend women are more oppressed than us.


I wasn't pretending anything. This is not a competition to determine who is more oppressed. Many women are materialists just as there are many men who are sexually shallow, and when women select mates based on financial success, it is evil to the men they are treating as means to their selfish ends. No matter who is doing it, there is something wrong with it, and it shouldn't be treated as though it were acceptable behavior. It turns relationships into prostitution, where each partner is only interested in exploiting the other for his/her own use, without regard for the partner. The more it is challenged, in all of its forms, the less common it will be. I hope if enough people are willing to speak out against these problems, the world will change so that there will be an increase in deeply fulfilling relationships based on true compatibility and love.


My spouse and I did not exchange rings at our wedding. Neither of us would have chosen someone who cared at all about jewels or money, nor would we have married partners who chose us for our looks. I think if more people were willing to experience love instead of greed or lust, the world would be a better place.
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Postby The God-Realm » Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:45 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:And men are not chosen by women on by how successful they are? Women want a nice car, a nice house, a shitton of money, a shit ton of jewels, and they kick the less successful men away.

Don'r pretend women are more oppressed than us.


You're placing all women in a rather greedy light.

Not all women want a shit ton of jewels. I can assure you that I, personally, could care less for jewels. All I want is a man who's good to me, who doesn't abuse me, who keeps me safe and makes me feel loved and respected.

If a nice car, a nice house and a lot of money are included in that, I would consider those a bonus, but I don't really care if they happen. That is not what relationships or love are based on. Or at least, they shouldn't be.

Not all women are like that, I know, but I hate the women who are like that alot because my mom was like that, and she cared more about precious metals and the latest fashions than me, and she was also a radical feminist, so yeah, i'm not over her treating me like a toy.
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people who qq over losing a gf over a small penis size are insecure and need to check themselves

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:48 pm

The God-Realm wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
You're placing all women in a rather greedy light.

Not all women want a shit ton of jewels. I can assure you that I, personally, could care less for jewels. All I want is a man who's good to me, who doesn't abuse me, who keeps me safe and makes me feel loved and respected.

If a nice car, a nice house and a lot of money are included in that, I would consider those a bonus, but I don't really care if they happen. That is not what relationships or love are based on. Or at least, they shouldn't be.

Not all women are like that, I know, but I hate the women who are like that alot because my mom was like that, and she cared more about precious metals and the latest fashions than me, and she was also a radical feminist, so yeah, i'm not over her treating me like a toy.


That your mother did those things to her child is unfortunate. I'm sorry. But the truth is that, historically, women have been more oppressed than men.

I'm not saying discrimination against men doesn't happen, mind you. It does. But it doesn't tend to be the norm.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:50 pm

The God-Realm wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
You're placing all women in a rather greedy light.

Not all women want a shit ton of jewels. I can assure you that I, personally, could care less for jewels. All I want is a man who's good to me, who doesn't abuse me, who keeps me safe and makes me feel loved and respected.

If a nice car, a nice house and a lot of money are included in that, I would consider those a bonus, but I don't really care if they happen. That is not what relationships or love are based on. Or at least, they shouldn't be.

Not all women are like that, I know, but I hate the women who are like that alot because my mom was like that, and she cared more about precious metals and the latest fashions than me, and she was also a radical feminist, so yeah, i'm not over her treating me like a toy.

A radical feminist fashionista with shiny-object collector tendencies? Goodness.
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Postby BluSkyy » Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:58 pm

Someone compassionate, smart, and with similar ideologies to me.

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Postby The God-Realm » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:07 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:Not all women are like that, I know, but I hate the women who are like that alot because my mom was like that, and she cared more about precious metals and the latest fashions than me, and she was also a radical feminist, so yeah, i'm not over her treating me like a toy.


That your mother did those things to her child is unfortunate. I'm sorry. But the truth is that, historically, women have been more oppressed than men.

I'm not saying discrimination against men doesn't happen, mind you. It does. But it doesn't tend to be the norm.

That is a true fact really, but i'm saying now that now it is not as bad.
Farnhamia wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:Not all women are like that, I know, but I hate the women who are like that alot because my mom was like that, and she cared more about precious metals and the latest fashions than me, and she was also a radical feminist, so yeah, i'm not over her treating me like a toy.

A radical feminist fashionista with shiny-object collector tendencies? Goodness.

She thought men were supposed to be slaves to women.

Which is fine, as long as it is agreed upon by both parties and it only involves sex, not buying jewels and dresses.
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The God-Realm wrote:And men are not chosen by women on by how successful they are? Women want a nice car, a nice house, a shitton of money, a shit ton of jewels, and they kick the less successful men away.

Don'r pretend women are more oppressed than us.


I wasn't pretending anything. This is not a competition to determine who is more oppressed. Many women are materialists just as there are many men who are sexually shallow, and when women select mates based on financial success, it is evil to the men they are treating as means to their selfish ends. No matter who is doing it, there is something wrong with it, and it shouldn't be treated as though it were acceptable behavior. It turns relationships into prostitution, where each partner is only interested in exploiting the other for his/her own use, without regard for the partner. The more it is challenged, in all of its forms, the less common it will be. I hope if enough people are willing to speak out against these problems, the world will change so that there will be an increase in deeply fulfilling relationships based on true compatibility and love.


My spouse and I did not exchange rings at our wedding. Neither of us would have chosen someone who cared at all about jewels or money, nor would we have married partners who chose us for our looks. I think if more people were willing to experience love instead of greed or lust, the world would be a better place.

Sadly the majority of the human race are narrow minded, take the nation of my birth, South Africa as the example. My people can't live in harmony with the Africans for the most part.
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Esternial wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:No

people who qq over losing a gf over a small penis size are insecure and need to check themselves

Before they wreck themselves?

Or their ex' car.

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Postby Death Metal » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:11 pm

The God-Realm wrote:She thought men were supposed to be slaves to women.

Which is fine, as long as it is agreed upon by both parties and it only involves sex, not buying jewels and dresses.


Agreed :lol:
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Postby The God-Realm » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:13 pm

Death Metal wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:She thought men were supposed to be slaves to women.

Which is fine, as long as it is agreed upon by both parties and it only involves sex, not buying jewels and dresses.


Agreed :lol:

My girlfriend says I have to cosplay as Alucard.

I would refuse but I do it so well.
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Esternial wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:No

people who qq over losing a gf over a small penis size are insecure and need to check themselves

Before they wreck themselves?

Or their ex' car.

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Postby Death Metal » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:19 pm

If it were me, I'd ask if she could return the favor by cosplaying as Mokoto Kusanagi... or Balalaika... or Revy... or maybe Baiken from Guilty Gear...
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Postby The God-Realm » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:22 pm

Death Metal wrote:If it were me, I'd ask if she could return the favor by cosplaying as Mokoto Kusanagi... or Balalaika... or Revy... or maybe Baiken from Guilty Gear...

My girlfriend is a good Chun Li, but the Russian accent kinda ruins it.
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Esternial wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:No

people who qq over losing a gf over a small penis size are insecure and need to check themselves

Before they wreck themselves?

Or their ex' car.

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Postby Gidgetisms » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:23 pm

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Postby The God-Realm » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:24 pm

Gidgetisms wrote:...

What?
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The God-Realm wrote:No

people who qq over losing a gf over a small penis size are insecure and need to check themselves

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Postby Norstal » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:25 pm

Death Metal wrote:If it were me, I'd ask if she could return the favor by cosplaying as Mokoto Kusanagi... or Balalaika... or Revy... or maybe Baiken from Guilty Gear...

Ask her to dress up like Bridget.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:26 pm

The God-Realm wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
That your mother did those things to her child is unfortunate. I'm sorry. But the truth is that, historically, women have been more oppressed than men.

I'm not saying discrimination against men doesn't happen, mind you. It does. But it doesn't tend to be the norm.

That is a true fact really, but i'm saying now that now it is not as bad.


In all honesty, it really depends where in the world you're at.
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Postby Gidgetisms » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:26 pm

what is cosplay?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:27 pm

Gidgetisms wrote:what is cosplay?


Dressing up as say, a character from an anime (mainly, but you can do so from other things like movies or books), and RPing scenes from said anime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosplay
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Postby Gidgetisms » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:28 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Gidgetisms wrote:what is cosplay?


Dressing up as say, a character from an anime (mainly, but you can do so from other things like movies or books), and RPing scenes from said anime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosplay

That sounds fun!
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:29 pm

Gidgetisms wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Dressing up as say, a character from an anime (mainly, but you can do so from other things like movies or books), and RPing scenes from said anime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosplay

That sounds fun!


It can be. People tend to do a lot of it when they go to anime cons. :)

And some of the costumes are amazingly good.
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Postby The God-Realm » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:29 pm

Gidgetisms wrote:what is cosplay?

What we no life weeaboos do.
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The God-Realm wrote:No

people who qq over losing a gf over a small penis size are insecure and need to check themselves

Before they wreck themselves?

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Postby Gaveo » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:30 pm

Gidgetisms wrote:...

:hug:
Bruh.

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Postby Death Metal » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:31 pm

The God-Realm wrote:
Death Metal wrote:If it were me, I'd ask if she could return the favor by cosplaying as Mokoto Kusanagi... or Balalaika... or Revy... or maybe Baiken from Guilty Gear...

My girlfriend is a good Chun Li, but the Russian accent kinda ruins it.


She'd be a great Balalaika then I'd wager.
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I support Obama. And so would FA Hayek.

34 arguments Libertarians (and sometimes AnCaps) make, and why they are wrong.

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Postby Gidgetisms » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:32 pm

Gaveo wrote:
Gidgetisms wrote:...

:hug:

gentle, gav
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Postby Mizrah » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:32 pm

She shouldn't talk too much.
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Postby Death Metal » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:32 pm

Gidgetisms wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Dressing up as say, a character from an anime (mainly, but you can do so from other things like movies or books), and RPing scenes from said anime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosplay

That sounds fun!


*Hands a shrimp and avacado sammich, on brown, cut diagonally*
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Pro: Civil Equality, Scaled Income Taxes, Centralized Govtt, Moderate Business Regulations, Heavy Metal
Con: Censorship in any medium, Sales Tax, Flat Tax, Small Govt, Overly Large Govt, Laissez Faire, AutoTuner.

I support Obama. And so would FA Hayek.

34 arguments Libertarians (and sometimes AnCaps) make, and why they are wrong.

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