How do I start a physical micronation?

[Somalistein]

Alright, so I understand that I can use any amount of property, anywhere, including my house. I have read a (possible skeptic and theoretical) website on Wikidot called "A New Land" and if I achieve this goal, can I also theoretically declare independence? I'm not really expecting the odds to work in my favor though.

[Gauntleted Fist]

Save yourself a lot of futile effort and give up.

[Somalistein]

Save yourself a lot of futile effort and give up.

Then, what's the point of people starting these sorts of pet projects at all? I mean, there's one in the US city of Pittsburgh called New America.

[Lackadaisical2]

I think it involves revolution, but I wouldn't recommend that.

[Takaram]

Save yourself a lot of futile effort and give up.

Then, what's the point of people starting these sorts of pet projects at all? I mean, there's one in the US city of Pittsburgh called New America.

Some people like efforts in futility?

[Lancaster of Wessex]

Save yourself a lot of futile effort and give up.

Then, what's the point of people starting these sorts of pet projects at all? I mean, there's one in the US city of Pittsburgh called New America.

There isn't a point unless you want to be harassed by local, state and federal officials and like to waste lots and lots of time and money.

[Somalistein]

Are you sure that revolution is the only way?

[Lancaster of Wessex]

Are you sure that revolution is the only way?

i wouldn't want to try and find out.

who will bail you out?

[Pyravar]

True micronations should be prepared to be cut off from water, electricity, police, fire services since they are independent and should be set up for these anyways.

[Bombadil]

All you need is a flag, make a flag and plant in the ground, no one can argue with a flag.

[Somalistein]

Gotcha. What if I wanted to start a village/town/city (hell no, it'll be no bedroom community as I plan)?

[The Elven Imperium]

Yes technically your committing treason doing that. I think if you want to carve a little nation out a bigger one, be prepared for the consequences (like getting crushed by police and troops).

[Lancaster of Wessex]

Gotcha. What if I wanted to start a village/town/city (hell no, it'll be no bedroom community as I plan)?

go ahead. you'll have to find some barren unused land likely in the middle of nowhere and you'll have to find people who want to invest millions if not tens of millions of dollars to set up infrastructure. then, if you gain enough people, perhaps your state will incorporate your village into a city some decades or centuries down the road, if you have enough people move in to your new desert paradise.

good luck!

[Bombadil]

Gotcha. What if I wanted to start a village/town/city (hell no, it'll be no bedroom community as I plan)?

If it's just you then a flag alone suffices, if you want to bring more people in then you need passports. Prepare yourself with some cardboard, paper and creative drawing skillz.

[Takaram]

True micronations should be prepared to be cut off from water, electricity, police, fire services since they are independent and should be set up for these anyways.

Well, they should at least establish treaties with the nation providing them

[Somalistein]

Yes technically your committing treason doing that. I think if you want to carve a little nation out a bigger one, be prepared for the consequences (like getting crushed by police and troops).

Damn, that sucks. No, really, sometimes it actually bugs me that nobody is able to grow a nation, whether from an existing one, or from scratch. This isn't a commitment or anything, I was just asking curiously.

[Somalistein]

go ahead. you'll have to find some barren unused land likely in the middle of nowhere and you'll have to find people who want to invest millions if not tens of millions of dollars to set up infrastructure. then, if you gain enough people, perhaps your state will incorporate your village into a city some decades or centuries down the road, if you have enough people move in to your new desert paradise.

good luck!

Yes, or try and campaign independence from an already existing local government.

[Arumdaum]

Get some friends.

Buy some seeds and get some animals.

Go out into some habitable area that hardly anyone will find out about and establish a settlement.

[Ostroeuropa]

Hire a very, very good lawyer

[Somalistein]

Well, starting a new local settlement from scratch will add possible jobs and add stewardship to already-existing communities.

[Forsher]

I would buy large swathes of land. Then invest in it to prepare for self-sufficiency. Then declare independence.

[Union of Confederate Socialist Republics]

Buy useless land and mercenaries. Make crushing you succession more trouble for them than its worth.

[Somalistein]

I would buy large swathes of land. Then invest in it to prepare for self-sufficiency. Then declare independence.

What type of settlement are we talking about? If it's a country, you can't be serious about that sort of thing? I have an idea that anyone can theoretically declare independence, but what about revolution, or are there alternatives?

[Ostroeuropa]

...
Libertarians of nationstates
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX0X3ofCsDI

I propose we do this.


*strokes globe*
First Sealand, and then the WORLD!
WHahahHAhahhahAh

[Magmia]

I don't know. I wouldn't pursue this idea, there isn't really a point in doing it other than the fact that it sounds cool.

Although, you can always ask Peter Griffin