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Who do you want to win?

President Barack Obama
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42%
Governor Mitt Romney
180
18%
A third party candidate
185
18%
Who cares and/or I ain't American
75
7%
It doesn't matter as the Mods are gonna launch their coup any time now and I for one welcome our Modly overlords
146
14%
 
Total votes : 1009

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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:08 pm

Laerod wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Yahoo is running a poll saying:

"Obama will not win the election."
"Obama will win the election, but barely."

There's no bias in those options, right?

Romney's not an option, eh?

Subliminal inferences are subliminal.

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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:09 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Here's some of what Bloomberg said:


In other words, Progressive Mitt was a nice fellow with good, stable ideals, while Conservative Mitt is a confusing conglomerate of the desires of the ultra-conservative base and Moderate Mitt during the debates.

Pretty much, yep. Flippity-floppity.
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Postby Neo Art » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:09 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
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It's true, Bloomberg is not a real, red blooded american capitalist like Trump.

Hey, speaking of trump, did the hairpiece with teeth make note on national TV that his deadline passed? Remember that thing about how Obama was supposed to get Trump his Columbia transcripts, instead of captaining the country through a time of national emergency?

I believe he extended his deadline twelve whole hours in deference to the hurricane. And then, there was a hurricane and media outlets were not desperate enough for content as to give a shit what he says.


But his deadline was 5:00 yesterday, that means it's STILL over.
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Postby Neo Art » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:10 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:In other words, Progressive Mitt was a nice fellow with good, stable ideals, while Conservative Mitt is a confusing conglomerate of the desires of the ultra-conservative base and Moderate Mitt during the debates.

Pretty much, yep. Flippity-floppity.


HEY, MONEYBAGS!

Starting at 2:18 is my favorite.
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Postby Phocidaea » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:11 pm

Revolutopia wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
It's true, Bloomberg is not a real, red blooded american capitalist like Trump.

Hey, speaking of trump, did the hairpiece with teeth make note on national TV that his deadline passed? Remember that thing about how Obama was supposed to get Trump his Columbia transcripts, instead of captaining the country through a time of national emergency?


True, people like Micheal Bloomberg, Warren Buffet, and Bill Gates(who has also came out for increased taxation on the wealthy) are just jealous of Mitt Romney's success and strong business skills.


Romney has no real business skills.

He ran a business that literally made all its money off of pulling glorified hostile takeovers, scamming investors, and running away with the money before the business imploded just as he planned.

Honestly? It's not out of the question that he'd do the same with the country.
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Postby Revolutopia » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:13 pm

Phocidaea wrote:
Revolutopia wrote:
True, people like Micheal Bloomberg, Warren Buffet, and Bill Gates(who has also came out for increased taxation on the wealthy) are just jealous of Mitt Romney's success and strong business skills.


Romney has no real business skills.

He ran a business that literally made all its money off of pulling glorified hostile takeovers, scamming investors, and running away with the money before the business imploded just as he planned.

Honestly? It's not out of the question that he'd do the same with the country.


Nope, Mitt Romney was a financial genius and that is why all three of those men are jealous of his tremendous wealth, because they just don't value hard work or strategy and just want to suckle the teat of the government.
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Postby Mavorpen » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:13 pm

Phocidaea wrote:
Romney has no real business skills.

He ran a business that literally made all its money off of pulling glorified hostile takeovers, scamming investors, and running away with the money before the business imploded just as he planned.

Honestly? It's not out of the question that he'd do the same with the country.

That reminds me. Have you guys seen this new Romney ad? It's 30 seconds, but essentially it's a guy with a scary voice saying "Obama's going to add a Secretary of Business. Why elect a guy that wants to expand the government more with another bureaucrat, when you can elect Mitt, who has real business experience!"
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Mavorpen » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:16 pm

Revolutopia wrote:Nope, Mitt Romney was a financial genius and that is why all three of those men are jealous of his tremendous wealth, because they just don't value hard work or strategy and just want to suckle the teat of the government.

As Bill Maher put it.

At one of the debates, Mitt said, "I won't try and define who's rich and who's not rich. I want everybody to be rich." Cue the morons in the audience clapping their hands like seals at a Sea World getting a bucket of chum.

Well, I can define who's rich and who's not. Who's rich is Mitt Romney. And who's not is someone making $26,000 a year. And the…

And the success or failure of his campaign will depend on his ability to convince someone making 26 grand a year that he, Mitt, a rich guy, knows how to make them rich, too. And if you elect him -- [whispering] -- "he'll tell you the secret."

It's not a political platform so much as a wealth seminar. This is the same thing that makes guys like Tony Robbins rich. They have a secret. But, the secret turns out to be that they're rich because they're robbing you!
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:17 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:I believe he extended his deadline twelve whole hours in deference to the hurricane. And then, there was a hurricane and media outlets were not desperate enough for content as to give a shit what he says.


But his deadline was 5:00 yesterday, that means it's STILL over.

Yeah, but now networks have 36 hours of b-roll containing street signs sticking out of water and houses covered with mud plus a bombastic Republican governor barely stopping himself from telling Fox and Friends to fuck off, no one is desperate enough for something to fill air time to give a shit what Trump is on about.

Not that he doesn't have his own YouTube channel to spout on without having to convince anyone else...which apparently does contain him going on about it. But so far (after three hours) only 300 people have seen it. Which means about as many people care about that as watch my web series staring RC monster trucks...
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby Phocidaea » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:19 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Pretty much, yep. Flippity-floppity.


HEY, MONEYBAGS!

Starting at 2:18 is my favorite.


They say your father was a great man- you must be what's left;
Need to stop hatin' on gays and let 'em teach you how to dress
You got the momma jeans and a Mr. Fantastic face!
So rich and white it's like I'm runnin' 'gainst a cheesecake!

Republicans need a puppet and you fit,
Got their hands so far up your rear,
Call you Mitt!


...

Uh, look, I respect all religions, uh, but it might get crazy
If the White House has a first, second, and a third lady!
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Postby Laerod » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:20 pm

Phocidaea wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
HEY, MONEYBAGS!

Starting at 2:18 is my favorite.


They say your father was a great man- you must be what's left;
Need to stop hatin' on gays and let 'em teach you how to dress
You got the momma jeans and a Mr. Fantastic face!
So rich and white it's like I'm runnin' 'gainst a cheesecake!

Republicans need a puppet and you fit,
Got their hands so far up your rear,
Call you Mitt!


...

Uh, look, I respect all religions, uh, but it might get crazy
If the White House has a first, second, and a third lady!

I hate to break it to you, but that's not actually Obama.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:22 pm

Laerod wrote:I hate to break it to you,

I wonder if this phrase has ever been said sincerely.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby Neo Art » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:24 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote: my web series staring RC monster trucks...


Hold on.

Hold on one fucking minute. We've "known" each other HOW many years, hell, our significant others have known each other how many years, and I'm just finding out about this now?
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Postby Laerod » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:24 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Laerod wrote:I hate to break it to you,

I wonder if this phrase has ever been said sincerely.

You're doubting my sincerity? D=

I am wounded, good sir!

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Postby Phocidaea » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:26 pm

Laerod wrote:
Phocidaea wrote:


...


I hate to break it to you, but that's not actually Obama.


Of course it's not. I'm not an idiot, though I'm sure you think all Obama supporters are.

I do think that, save for the polygamy comment, everything I had above would have been a great real quote for Obama, since almost everything about Romney in that video is sadly true... he's just a puppet for the far right, a rich, out of touch businessman, and a civil-rights time bomb.

Then again, that's about half the Republican candidates nowadays.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:28 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote: my web series staring RC monster trucks...


Hold on.

Hold on one fucking minute. We've "known" each other HOW many years, hell, our significant others have known each other how many years, and I'm just finding out about this now?

That's just because you never visit the wasteland that is Arts & Fiction
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:29 pm

Phocidaea wrote:Of course it's not. I'm not an idiot, though I'm sure you think all Obama supporters are.

Awkward...
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby Neo Art » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:29 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
Hold on.

Hold on one fucking minute. We've "known" each other HOW many years, hell, our significant others have known each other how many years, and I'm just finding out about this now?

That's just because you never visit the wasteland that is Arts & Fiction


There's shit over there that isn't My Little Pony fanfic? I've been too afraid to find out.
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Postby Neo Art » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:31 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Phocidaea wrote:Of course it's not. I'm not an idiot, though I'm sure you think all Obama supporters are.

Awkward...


You know, as an educated, up to date, politically active person, sometimes I wanna go through the people on my side of the fence and hand out "stop helping!" stickers.
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Postby Mavorpen » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:31 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:That's just because you never visit the wasteland that is Arts & Fiction


There's shit over there that isn't My Little Pony fanfic? I've been too afraid to find out.

That's not even 1% of the forum.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:31 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:That's just because you never visit the wasteland that is Arts & Fiction


There's shit over there that isn't My Little Pony fanfic? I've been too afraid to find out.

Occasionally they'll stop talking about Ponies to discuss how awesome Metal is. Or how movies suck except for all these movies that they love.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby Neo Art » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:33 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
There's shit over there that isn't My Little Pony fanfic? I've been too afraid to find out.

Occasionally they'll stop talking about Ponies to discuss how awesome Metal is. Or how movies suck except for all these movies that they love.


Oh god, two things I hate most in the world, MLP fans, and hipsters.
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Postby Laerod » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:35 pm

Phocidaea wrote:
Laerod wrote:I hate to break it to you, but that's not actually Obama.


Of course it's not. I'm not an idiot, though I'm sure you think all Obama supporters are.

Really?
I do think that, save for the polygamy comment, everything I had above would have been a great real quote for Obama, since almost everything about Romney in that video is sadly true... he's just a puppet for the far right, a rich, out of touch businessman, and a civil-rights time bomb.

Then again, that's about half the Republican candidates nowadays.

I found the polygamy, threat of physical violence, and "well you're stupid" to be problematic, but the biggest issue is the equation of Obama and Romney at the end.

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Postby Laerod » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:36 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Awkward...


You know, as an educated, up to date, politically active person, sometimes I wanna go through the people on my side of the fence and hand out "stop helping!" stickers.

No harm done, I've already voted for Obama.

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Postby Laerod » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:36 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
There's shit over there that isn't My Little Pony fanfic? I've been too afraid to find out.

Occasionally they'll stop talking about Ponies to discuss how awesome Metal is. Or how movies suck except for all these movies that they love.

Hey... I keep an art thread there =<

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