The 2012 Three Ring Circus AKA The US Presidential Election

[Yumyumsuppertime]

No one here is taking you seriously.

That's because the kool aid has clouded your judgement. "Independence is the recognition of the fact that yours is the responsibility of judgment and nothing can help you escape it—that no substitute can do your thinking, as no pinch-hitter can live your life—that the vilest form of self-abasement and self-destruction is the subordination of your mind to the mind of another." Ayn Rand

You don't get to accuse others of drinking the Kool-Aid when half of your posts are the quotes of another person rather than thoughts and opinions that you've come up with on your own.

[Divair]

Well, maybe you'd be taken more seriously if you stop dropping Rand quotes at a drop of a hat, start listening to what we're saying, and stop thinking that everything is in absolutes...

“There are no absolutes,” they chatter, blanking out the fact that they are uttering an absolute. - John Galt

"I wouldn't worry too much about it. Remember when Disney acquired Marvel about 2 years ago and people (namely reddit) was concerned about bah, bah no wah chota kama eesay, Solo? Ho, ho, hooo..." - /u/becomesjabbathehutt

[Mavorpen]

Well, maybe you'd be taken more seriously if you stop dropping Rand quotes at a drop of a hat, start listening to what we're saying, and stop thinking that everything is in absolutes...

“There are no absolutes,” they chatter, blanking out the fact that they are uttering an absolute. - John Galt

Nope.

[Individuality-ness]

Well, maybe you'd be taken more seriously if you stop dropping Rand quotes at a drop of a hat, start listening to what we're saying, and stop thinking that everything is in absolutes...

“There are no absolutes,” they chatter, blanking out the fact that they are uttering an absolute. - John Galt

Yeah, you missed my point.

[Farnhamia]

“There are no absolutes,” they chatter, blanking out the fact that they are uttering an absolute. - John Galt

Yeah, you missed my point.

And once again, Objectiveland seizes control of the thread. Let's not indulge him, shall we?

[New England and The Maritimes]

“There are no absolutes,” they chatter, blanking out the fact that they are uttering an absolute. - John Galt

Yeah, you missed my point.

Never you mind him. Move along.

[Individuality-ness]

What do you think is the likelihood of Obama winning the electoral college and not the popular vote?

[The Emerald Dawn]

Mitt becomes black?

He tried that before the Univision interview.

Also, I'm fairly sure that the GOP is going to ignore black voters and move straight to attacking the Latino vote next.

[Divair]

What do you think is the likelihood of Obama winning the electoral college and not the popular vote?

Unlikely. I see him winning both.

[New England and The Maritimes]

What do you think is the likelihood of Obama winning the electoral college and not the popular vote?

Fairly high because of the ridiculous concentration Romney has in the deep south.

[Individuality-ness]

What do you think is the likelihood of Obama winning the electoral college and not the popular vote?

Unlikely. I see him winning both.

Because of early voting and hurricane Sandy?

[Mavorpen]

Unlikely. I see him winning both.

Because of early voting and hurricane Sandy?

You mean God's divine intervention. *nods*

[Divair]

Unlikely. I see him winning both.

Because of early voting and hurricane Sandy?

No, just because he is more popular.

[Cannot think of a name]

What do you think is the likelihood of Obama winning the electoral college and not the popular vote?

Slim. The election will be 'close', but it just doesn't seem like it's going to be that close. I think that we're too fascinated by something like that 'happening' again. There just doesn't seem like there is too much of a chance of it.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

What do you think is the likelihood of Obama winning the electoral college and not the popular vote?

Possible, but not likely. If that happens, it will put many on both sides in the awkward but not uncommon position of having to switch sides from arguments that they were making 12 years ago, and I will find it to be hilarious.

[Individuality-ness]

What do you think is the likelihood of Obama winning the electoral college and not the popular vote?

Fairly high because of the ridiculous concentration Romney has in the deep south.

Plus, we have Hurricane Sandy, blowing out power - assuming that they can't get it back up by next Tuesday...

[New England and The Maritimes]

What do you think is the likelihood of Obama winning the electoral college and not the popular vote?

Slim. The election will be 'close', but it just doesn't seem like it's going to be that close. I think that we're too fascinated by something like that 'happening' again. There just doesn't seem like there is too much of a chance of it.

Well, Obama is pulling 5-10 point leads in his "solid" states while Romney pulls 15-25 point leads in his, and that's a pretty wide disparity.

[Cannot think of a name]

Slim. The election will be 'close', but it just doesn't seem like it's going to be that close. I think that we're too fascinated by something like that 'happening' again. There just doesn't seem like there is too much of a chance of it.

Well, Obama is pulling 5-10 point leads in his "solid" states while Romney pulls 15-25 point leads in his, and that's a pretty wide disparity.

Except that the states where Romney is as solid are also lower population states, whereas where Obama is strong are places like California, the most populous state in the union.

[The Steel Magnolia]

According to 538:

Romney wins popular vote 24.3%
Obama wins popular vote but loses electoral college 1.8%
Romney wins popular vote but loses electoral college 5.1%

[New England and The Maritimes]

Well, Obama is pulling 5-10 point leads in his "solid" states while Romney pulls 15-25 point leads in his, and that's a pretty wide disparity.

Except that the states where Romney is as solid are also lower population states, whereas where Obama is strong are places like California, the most populous state in the union.

That's true, but then you take a 22 point lead in Texas vs Obama's 3-6 point lead in Pennsylvania as an example, and the margins are slim in most of the swing states as well. It's not incredibly unlikely.

[Individuality-ness]

Because of early voting and hurricane Sandy?

You mean God's divine intervention. *nods*

Because of early voting and hurricane Sandy?

No, just because he is more popular.

In the Kerry states, yes.

What do you think is the likelihood of Obama winning the electoral college and not the popular vote?

Slim. The election will be 'close', but it just doesn't seem like it's going to be that close. I think that we're too fascinated by something like that 'happening' again. There just doesn't seem like there is too much of a chance of it.

I know right now the electoral vote is pretty much going for Obama, so I'm not too worried about that. I just hope that I don't wake up the morning of 7 November to the news that Romney's the president-elect. *shudders*

[Cannot think of a name]

Except that the states where Romney is as solid are also lower population states, whereas where Obama is strong are places like California, the most populous state in the union.

That's true, but then you take a 22 point lead in Texas vs Obama's 3-6 point lead in Pennsylvania as an example, and the margins are slim in most of the swing states as well. It's not incredibly unlikely.

That's not really a fair comparison. You've taken what was a swing state and compared it to a state that was never in play.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Except that the states where Romney is as solid are also lower population states, whereas where Obama is strong are places like California, the most populous state in the union.

That's true, but then you take a 22 point lead in Texas vs Obama's 3-6 point lead in Pennsylvania as an example, and the margins are slim in most of the swing states as well. It's not incredibly unlikely.

A better comparison for Texas would probably be something like California, where President Obama has a 23 point advantage.

[The Emerald Dawn]

That's true, but then you take a 22 point lead in Texas vs Obama's 3-6 point lead in Pennsylvania as an example, and the margins are slim in most of the swing states as well. It's not incredibly unlikely.

The only A better comparison for Texas would probably be something like California, where President Obama has a 23 point advantage.

Population-wise, that's as good as you can get.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

The only A better comparison for Texas would probably be something like California, where President Obama has a 23 point advantage.

Population-wise, that's as good as you can get.

I approve of your fix.