The 2012 Three Ring Circus AKA The US Presidential Election

[Samuraikoku]

I just feel vaguely unclean now.

Heresy grows from idleness.

[Alien Space Bats]

I just remember my first thought when I heard that they were practicing 'zingers':

"Who the fuck says 'zingers' anymore?"

Captain America does. And if it is good enough for Steve Rogers, it damn well is good enough for you.

I'm going to have someone standing by on Wednesday night to rush me to the hospital just in case I split my gut open laughing.

Of course, it will have to be the emergency room, because I don't have insurance. But Mitt says that's just fine, so I think I'll mail him the bill.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Captain America does.

But he's a product of the '40s. He has an excuse.

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[Wamitoria]

But he's a product of the '40s. He has an excuse.

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[Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f]

The skit I see involves Romney suddenly denouncing his positions when he's allowed to talk, cackling madly as he endorses state-run healthcare, abortion, and gay marriage. When the gasps from the audience die down and the moderator manages to ask Mitt why he would stage such a sudden reversal, Romney would peel off the latex face mask he's been wearing the whole time and reveal that he's really...

Mitt Romney from the late '90's/early '00's, the RINO governor that created a working model for Obamacare! *dun-dun-dunnnn*

with the only difference in the way he looks being the lack of gray in his hair?

Depends...is he facing a Latino only audience?

[Khadgar]

RNC cancels all swing state voter registration.

[Wamitoria]

RNC cancels all swing state voter registration.

They've got the Chamber of Commerce running them now.

[Norstal]

RNC cancels all swing state voter registration.

Why am I not hearing such scandals from the Democrats side? It's like the right-wingers in this country are turning into comic book villains.

[Khadgar]

RNC cancels all swing state voter registration.

They've got the Chamber of Commerce running them now.

Let me enjoy my moment of happiness dammit!

I wonder how well the CoC will do as far as taking over. I hope they'll be less illegally partisan.

[The Emerald Dawn]

They've got the Chamber of Commerce running them now.

Let me enjoy my moment of happiness dammit!

I wonder how well the CoC will do as far as taking over. I hope they'll be less illegally partisan.

Your hint is in the acronym for the organization.

[Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f]

They've got the Chamber of Commerce running them now.

Let me enjoy my moment of happiness dammit!

I wonder how well the CoC will do as far as taking over. I hope they'll be less illegally partisan.

It still bugs me that the CoC is somehow thought of as a governmental organ...rather than what it is....a republican front.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Let me enjoy my moment of happiness dammit!

I wonder how well the CoC will do as far as taking over. I hope they'll be less illegally partisan.

It still bugs me that the CoC is somehow thought of as a governmental organ...rather than what it is....a republican front.

I see what you did there.

[Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f]

It still bugs me that the CoC is somehow thought of as a governmental organ...rather than what it is....a republican front.

I see what you did there.

I couldn't resist...

[Gauthier]

I see what you did there.

I couldn't resist...

You didn't feel disgusted that a Republican apparatus used the initials C.O.C.?

[Feral Feline Friends]

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Obama is a conservative, that's just a fact. Obama, Bush, Clinton, Romney ... they don't diverge very much from each other at all. Obama is happy just to let the GOP move the bar further to the right as he tries to out-Republican the Republicans:

1. Extended the Patriot Act

2. Obama has supported indefinite detention without trial

3. Obama's administration tries to spin the civilian death count on drones, much like Bush's administration. (Obama, like most Americans, believes that as long as it isn't white Anglos being killed, that everything is A-OK)

4. Obama is in the pocket of the oil industry.

5. Has protected the Bush administration in regards to torture.

6. Has deported more people than Bush in order to win over white conservatives (while at the same time distancing himself from liberals.)

7. Has out-Bushed Bush in regards to executions without trial.

8. Marches lock-in-step with Democrats (who don't diverge with Republicans) as far as Israel goes.

9. Supports the "states' right" position on gay marriage, thereby supporting the states' ability to ban it.

10. Has continued supporting the failed ideal of "free trade."

That's just about 15 minutes of digging. But, I make my point. You're not getting much of a difference from Bush when it comes with Obama, as with Bush not being much different from Clinton or Clinton from Bush I. They all pretty much support the same policies. Their arguments are essentially "I agree with my opponent, but he goes too far" and "I agree with my opponent, but he doesn't go far enough."

But, I'm sure I'll just get more insults and whining from people who are caught up in the stage show that is American politics where everything that's accomplished seems to favor rich white gringos, while leaving everyone else in the dirt.

[The Emerald Dawn]

I couldn't resist...

You didn't feel disgusted that a Republican apparatus used the initials C.O.C.?

I'm just surprised they didn't add a "Key-stone" or something on their to finish out the Freudian motif they usually have going on.

[Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f]

I couldn't resist...

You didn't feel disgusted that a Republican apparatus used the initials C.O.C.?

Honestly nothing the Republicans do these days can disgust me further...my immediate default setting is disgust when it comes to the GOP...

[New Chalcedon]

RNC cancels all swing state voter registration.

They've got the Chamber of Commerce running them now.

It's like they don't want to even pretend they're not Big Business' bought-and-paid-for lawmakers anymore.

Frankly, that'd make a great attack ad line, I think:

"X can't even run his/her own voter outreach programs, so s/he contracts it out to Wall Street so s/he has more time to advance Wall Street's agenda in Washington. Send Wall Street a message, and dump X!"

[Feral Feline Friends]

It's like they don't want to even pretend they're not Big Business' bought-and-paid-for lawmakers anymore.

Unfortunately, America was founded to protect the wealth and property (which includes slaves) of wealthy white landowners. It largely remains the same. To catch up to the rest of the First World, America would have to retire its constitution and write one based on Human Rights.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Unfortunately, America was founded to protect the wealth and property (which includes slaves) of wealthy white landowners. It largely remains the same. To catch up to the rest of the First World, America would have to retire its constitution and write one based on Human Rights.

Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrred Herrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrring.

[Feral Feline Friends]

Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrred Herrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrring.

Are you saying that America's system isn't geared toward favoring the wealthy over the not-so-wealthy?

[Gauthier]

You didn't feel disgusted that a Republican apparatus used the initials C.O.C.?

Honestly nothing the Republicans do these days can disgust me further...my immediate default setting is disgust when it comes to the GOP...

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[The Emerald Dawn]

Are you saying that America's system isn't geared toward favoring the wealthy over the not-so-wealthy?

I'm saying that it is a global problem, and not unique to the US in any way, shape, form, flavor, or color.

[Feral Feline Friends]

I'm saying that it is a global problem, and not unique to the US in any way, shape, form, flavor, or color.

So? That doesn't matter if the US Constitution pretty much institutionalized it from the beginning. Anyway, you don't see money playing a huge part in the election of most other first-world nations as you do in the US. Canada, the UK, the EU countries, Japan, etc. have restrictions and this has allowed for greater diversity in representation ... unlike the US where the choice is center-right and far-right.

[The Emerald Dawn]

So? That doesn't matter if the US Constitution pretty much institutionalized it from the beginning. Anyway, you don't see money playing a huge part in the election of most other first-world nations as you do in the US. Canada, the UK, the EU countries, Japan, etc. have restrictions and this has allowed for greater diversity in representation ... unlike the US where the choice is center-right and far-right.

So, you clearly don't have a problem with money being used to buy political power anywhere but the US. Meaning you're either a hipster, or uneducated about the effects of most of the systems in the world. Japanese political influence has long come from the barrel of a wallet. Britain has suffered from big business buying political favors for as long as the US has been a country, as has Australia (Look at Rupert Murdoch). No one here is saying this is a wonderful good, but we're also not going to sit here and pretend that America is alone in this situation.