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Who do you want to win?

President Barack Obama
423
42%
Governor Mitt Romney
180
18%
A third party candidate
185
18%
Who cares and/or I ain't American
75
7%
It doesn't matter as the Mods are gonna launch their coup any time now and I for one welcome our Modly overlords
146
14%
 
Total votes : 1009

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The Black Forrest
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:43 pm

Freedom of United Trevor wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:

How? If you know any specifics on what Romney plans to do you must be very high in the Romney Campaign. Please, I would absolutely love to here the specifics.


Governor Chris Christie said we believe in teachers not teacher's Unions so what he meant was that kids should be the ones reaching their goals and great teachers helping them.


He will lower crime because he believes in honest people not criminals! :roll:

Here's a hint. The union isn't the source of the problem.
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Neutraligon
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:43 pm

Williamson wrote:Nobody answered my question. If nobody knowes what he is planing how do you know Mitt Romeny would be a good President.


Hence part of my dislike in the man. I don't know. Obama is a known factor, even if I don't agree with everything he has done. Romney is a complete unknown. Further he has been known to lie, which means I can't trust him. Further he has flipped so many times, I'm worried that he will essentially be the Republican party in office, rather than Mitt Romney in office who happens to be Republican.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:43 pm

Freedom of United Trevor wrote:
Williamson wrote:HOW!


By PUTTING away Teacher's Unions since Republicans believe in teachers.


Well? The teachers wanted the union so they don't believe in teachers.
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Neutraligon
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:44 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Freedom of United Trevor wrote:
Governor Chris Christie said we believe in teachers not teacher's Unions so what he meant was that kids should be the ones reaching their goals and great teachers helping them.


He will lower crime because he believes in honest people not criminals! :roll:

Here's a hint. The union isn't the source of the problem.


Can you fix the quotes please?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:44 pm

Freedom of United Trevor wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:What kinds of things will he do to put students first? It can't involve money since it would contradict his pledge to cut the deficit along with Ryan. It also can't involve the apparatus of the DoE since that would go against all those anti-big government principles the tea party espouses.


By leaving no child left behind.


:rofl: You actually think that paper tiger did anything?
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:46 pm

Freedom of United Trevor wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:Do you have anything on Romney's plans other than blanket statements on what (supposedly) will happen in a Romney presidency?


Yes like strong leadership.


A strong leader dismisses the 47% ?
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:49 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
He will lower crime because he believes in honest people not criminals! :roll:

Here's a hint. The union isn't the source of the problem.


Can you fix the quotes please?


Whoops. :)
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:54 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Can you fix the quotes please?


Whoops. :)


Thanks, happens to everyone :hug:
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Postby Revolutopia » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:58 pm

Hey guys do you know what is an universal human value?

Denying Gay People equal rights!

Paul Ryan is even more of an asshole then previously thought.
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Postby United Dependencies » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:59 pm

Revolutopia wrote:Hey guys do you know what is an universal human value?

Denying Gay People equal rights!

Paul Ryan is even more of an asshole then previously thought.

He is a closet objectivist. How do you become more of a jerk than that?
Alien Space Bats wrote:2012: The Year We Lost Contact (with Reality).

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Obamacult wrote:Maybe there is an economically sound and rational reason why there are no longer high paying jobs for qualified accountants, assembly line workers, glass blowers, blacksmiths, tanners, etc.

Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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Postby Revolutopia » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:02 pm

United Dependencies wrote:
Revolutopia wrote:Hey guys do you know what is an universal human value?

Denying Gay People equal rights!

Paul Ryan is even more of an asshole then previously thought.

He is a closet objectivist. How do you become more of a jerk than that?


Closeted?

Through, I have to admit someone reading Rand and wanting to enter Public service is probably the most lawltastic thing ever. It is really up there with being a stooge for Big Business and loving Rage Against the Machine.
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The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little.-FDR

Economic Left/Right: -3.12|Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.49

Who is Tom Joad?

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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:03 pm

Revolutopia wrote:Hey guys do you know what is an universal human value?

Denying Gay People equal rights!

Paul Ryan is even more of an asshole then previously thought.


God I've been an economic voter since NS it's been a long time since I even thought about the GOP were bigoted fucks.

And I'm a transgender lesbian.

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Postby United Dependencies » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:04 pm

Revolutopia wrote:Closeted?

Through, I have to admit someone reading Rand and wanting to enter Public service is probably the most lawltastic thing ever. It really up there with being a stooge for Big Business and loving Rage Against the Machine.

I knew he talked about reading Rand, but I didn't know if he actually admitted to being an objectivist.
Alien Space Bats wrote:2012: The Year We Lost Contact (with Reality).

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Obamacult wrote:Maybe there is an economically sound and rational reason why there are no longer high paying jobs for qualified accountants, assembly line workers, glass blowers, blacksmiths, tanners, etc.

Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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Postby Revolutopia » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:06 pm

United Dependencies wrote:
Revolutopia wrote:Closeted?

Through, I have to admit someone reading Rand and wanting to enter Public service is probably the most lawltastic thing ever. It really up there with being a stooge for Big Business and loving Rage Against the Machine.

I knew he talked about reading Rand, but I didn't know if he actually admitted to being an objectivist.


He has admitted that she was the reason he wanted to enter public service, I take that as an admittance.
The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little.-FDR

Economic Left/Right: -3.12|Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.49

Who is Tom Joad?

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Zanzibarnia
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Postby Zanzibarnia » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:06 pm

Revolutopia wrote:Hey guys do you know what is an universal human value?

Denying Gay People equal rights!

Paul Ryan is even more of an asshole then previously thought.


Gotta love the "human" qualifier. Because everyone knows gays aren't human, therefore we good Christian soldiers shouldn't feel bad about oppressing them.

I hate this dehumanizing SOB so much.

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Postby United Dependencies » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:07 pm

Revolutopia wrote:He has admitted that she was the reason he wanted to enter public service, I take that as an admittance.

:eyebrow:

Someone should ask him if he enjoys living off the fruits of working people.
Alien Space Bats wrote:2012: The Year We Lost Contact (with Reality).

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Obamacult wrote:Maybe there is an economically sound and rational reason why there are no longer high paying jobs for qualified accountants, assembly line workers, glass blowers, blacksmiths, tanners, etc.

Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

This is Nationstates we're here to help

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Postby Revolutopia » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:11 pm

United Dependencies wrote:
Revolutopia wrote:He has admitted that she was the reason he wanted to enter public service, I take that as an admittance.

:eyebrow:

Someone should ask him if he enjoys living off the fruits of working people.


That is why it is so amusing, same as how I also mention his finding Rage Against the Machine as his favorite band despite being corporate sellout.
The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little.-FDR

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Postby Miss Defied » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:39 pm

Revolutopia wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:I knew he talked about reading Rand, but I didn't know if he actually admitted to being an objectivist.


He has admitted that she was the reason he wanted to enter public service, I take that as an admittance.

He did until he realized that she was an avowed athiest who believed religion was bullshit. Then he had to distance himeself from her, *ahem* philosophy.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:52 pm

United Dependencies wrote:
Revolutopia wrote:Hey guys do you know what is an universal human value?

Denying Gay People equal rights!

Paul Ryan is even more of an asshole then previously thought.

He is a closet objectivist. How do you become more of a jerk than that?


Don't objectivists have objectivity with the question of gay marriage?
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Silent Majority » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:05 pm

United Dependencies wrote:
Revolutopia wrote:Hey guys do you know what is an universal human value?

Denying Gay People equal rights!

Paul Ryan is even more of an asshole then previously thought.

He is a closet objectivist. How do you become more of a jerk than that?


Ryan is no objectivist. He's just using her work, because it's a convenient way to justify some of his political views, but he ignores the parts that don't aid in this goal.








Actually, that does sound a bit like he's trying to apply Rand's philosophy...
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:08 pm

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:10 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Freedom of United Trevor wrote:
Mitt Romney will put students first and Teacher's Unions Last and Obama was bad since he left millions unemployed, Mitt Romney will get people back to work.

That's all I know.


How exactly? He will raise taxes on the middle class so the wealthy class will have more.

How exactly do you improve a consumer based economy by taking money away from the consumers?

Everyone knows the Lord intended America to be a feudal society.
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Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
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Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Northern Dominus » Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:29 am

Revolutopia wrote:Hey guys do you know what is an universal human value?

Denying Gay People equal rights!

Paul Ryan is even more of an asshole then previously thought.

Paul Ryan is a bigoted bourgeoisie asshole?

Shocking I tell ya.

This seems to be an amplified repeat of 2008. You have the presidential candidate who was more agreeable a few years ago because they seemed human taking a rather extreme tack to the right, who then choses a running mate who the American Taliban adores blindly like a messiah while simultaniously sending the rest of the nation into WTF-isms.
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Postby Khadgar » Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:50 am

Revolutopia wrote:Hey guys do you know what is an universal human value?

Denying Gay People equal rights!

Paul Ryan is even more of an asshole then previously thought.


He should be careful, he keeps talking like that people will start to think he's gay.

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Postby Laerod » Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:51 am

Northern Dominus wrote:
Revolutopia wrote:Hey guys do you know what is an universal human value?

Denying Gay People equal rights!

Paul Ryan is even more of an asshole then previously thought.

Paul Ryan is a bigoted bourgeoisie asshole?

Shocking I tell ya.

This seems to be an amplified repeat of 2008. You have the presidential candidate who was more agreeable a few years ago because they seemed human taking a rather extreme tack to the right, who then choses a running mate who the American Taliban adores blindly like a messiah while simultaniously sending the rest of the nation into WTF-isms.

To be honest, McCain didn't compromise his integrity to the degree that Romney does, assuming for the sake of argument that you could credit Romney with McCainesque integrity.

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