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Who do you want to win?

President Barack Obama
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42%
Governor Mitt Romney
180
18%
A third party candidate
185
18%
Who cares and/or I ain't American
75
7%
It doesn't matter as the Mods are gonna launch their coup any time now and I for one welcome our Modly overlords
146
14%
 
Total votes : 1009

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Postby Wamitoria » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:52 pm

Judging by the continued retreat of the Republican Party into the wingnut singularity, are we at risk that the Romney campaign will use things like "unskewed" polls as a justification for claiming that Obama and the Democrats stole the election in November?

I'm seriously starting to worry about this.
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Postby Freedom of United Trevor » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:53 pm

A new Megathread of Obama-Romney

Governor Romney will win but its that stupid Ron Paul that he send votes to Obama BULLSHIT Paul

Mitt Romney: we don't apologize for success

Barack Obama: bad job since President Hoover's Depression

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Postby Gauthier » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:54 pm

Freedom of United Trevor wrote:Barack Obama: bad job since President Hoover's Depression


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Postby Freedom of United Trevor » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:56 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Freedom of United Trevor wrote:Barack Obama: bad job since President Hoover's Depression


[Citation Needed]


What do you mean?

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Postby United Dependencies » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:58 pm

Freedom of United Trevor wrote:
Barack Obama: bad job since President Hoover's Depression

My understanding is that we have created quite a number of jobs since the begining of the 2008 recession. In fact, I believe i'm correct in saying that we have virtually replaced all the jobs that have been lost in the private sector.

So how exactly is this possible?
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Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:58 pm

Freedom of United Trevor wrote:bad job since President Hoover's Depression

English isn't your first language, is it?
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Postby Williamson » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:59 pm

Freedom of United Trevor wrote:A new Megathread of Obama-Romney

Governor Romney will win but its that stupid Ron Paul that he send votes to Obama BULLSHIT Paul

Mitt Romney: we don't apologize for success

Barack Obama: bad job since President Hoover's Depression

so you just forgeten to 2000's

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Postby Freedom of United Trevor » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:59 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Freedom of United Trevor wrote:bad job since President Hoover's Depression

English isn't your first language, is it?


English is my only language.

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:00 pm

Freedom of United Trevor wrote:English is my only language.

:meh:
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Postby Freedom of United Trevor » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:00 pm

United Dependencies wrote:
Freedom of United Trevor wrote:
Barack Obama: bad job since President Hoover's Depression

My understanding is that we have created quite a number of jobs since the begining of the 2008 recession. In fact, I believe i'm correct in saying that we have virtually replaced all the jobs that have been lost in the private sector.

So how exactly is this possible?


Well they say it's true that Obama created new jobs but he has left millions unemployed so are they saying it's true or not.

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Postby Wamitoria » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:01 pm

Freedom of United Trevor wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:My understanding is that we have created quite a number of jobs since the begining of the 2008 recession. In fact, I believe i'm correct in saying that we have virtually replaced all the jobs that have been lost in the private sector.

So how exactly is this possible?


Well they say it's true that Obama created new jobs but he has left millions unemployed so are they saying it's true or not.

Factually, Obama has a better economic record than Herbert Hoover did.

So, no it's not true.
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Postby Freedom of United Trevor » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:02 pm

Williamson wrote:
Freedom of United Trevor wrote:A new Megathread of Obama-Romney

Governor Romney will win but its that stupid Ron Paul that he send votes to Obama BULLSHIT Paul

Mitt Romney: we don't apologize for success

Barack Obama: bad job since President Hoover's Depression

so you just forgeten to 2000's


Well everyone should not forget but I am just getting the facts.

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Postby Freedom of United Trevor » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:02 pm

Wamitoria wrote:
Freedom of United Trevor wrote:
Well they say it's true that Obama created new jobs but he has left millions unemployed so are they saying it's true or not.

Factually, Obama has a better economic record than Herbert Hoover did.

So, no it's not true.


I am with you.

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Postby United Dependencies » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:03 pm

Freedom of United Trevor wrote:Well they say it's true that Obama created new jobs but he has left millions unemployed so are they saying it's true or not.

Economies don't exactly fix themselves overnight. So, what has he done wrong? Or what could Governor Romney do that Obama has not done?
Alien Space Bats wrote:2012: The Year We Lost Contact (with Reality).

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Obamacult wrote:Maybe there is an economically sound and rational reason why there are no longer high paying jobs for qualified accountants, assembly line workers, glass blowers, blacksmiths, tanners, etc.

Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:03 pm

Freedom of United Trevor wrote:I am just getting the facts.

Only if you're really loose with the definition of 'facts'.
[23:24] <Marquesan> I have the feeling that all the porn videos you watch are like...set to Primus' music, Ulysses.
Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:04 pm

United Dependencies wrote:Or what could Governor Romney do that Obama has not done?

Implode the US economy and blame the last guy?
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Postby Freedom of United Trevor » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:05 pm

United Dependencies wrote:
Freedom of United Trevor wrote:Well they say it's true that Obama created new jobs but he has left millions unemployed so are they saying it's true or not.

Economies don't exactly fix themselves overnight. So, what has he done wrong? Or what could Governor Romney do that Obama has not done?


Governor Romney has better plans for the economy and education,

Getting Americans back to work and having better curriculum for education.

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Postby Williamson » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:06 pm

Freedom of United Trevor wrote:
Williamson wrote:so you just forgeten to 2000's


Well everyone should not forget but I am just getting the facts.

and i am just stating that Obama inherited the worst econmy since the great depression. The econmy got fucked up when Bush and the GOP was in power in DC

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Postby Wamitoria » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:07 pm

Freedom of United Trevor wrote:
Wamitoria wrote:Factually, Obama has a better economic record than Herbert Hoover did.

So, no it's not true.


I am with you.

I'm not sure you are. Let me explain it to you this way:
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Hoover never had a period in which more jobs were added than were lost.
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Postby Wamitoria » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:07 pm

Freedom of United Trevor wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:Economies don't exactly fix themselves overnight. So, what has he done wrong? Or what could Governor Romney do that Obama has not done?


Governor Romney has better plans for the economy and education,

Getting Americans back to work and having better curriculum for education.

Can you give us the specifics in those plans?
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Postby Williamson » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:08 pm

Freedom of United Trevor wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:Economies don't exactly fix themselves overnight. So, what has he done wrong? Or what could Governor Romney do that Obama has not done?


Governor Romney has better plans for the economy and education,

Getting Americans back to work and having better curriculum for education.

how will he get American back to work and improve the curriculum for education.

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Postby Alien Space Bats » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:08 pm

Wamitoria wrote:Judging by the continued retreat of the Republican Party into the wingnut singularity, are we at risk that the Romney campaign will use things like "unskewed" polls as a justification for claiming that Obama and the Democrats stole the election in November?

I'm seriously starting to worry about this.

The Romney campaign won't.

But the GOP in general? Yes, they will. They don't believe he actually won in 2008 already.
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:09 pm

Freedom of United Trevor wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:Economies don't exactly fix themselves overnight. So, what has he done wrong? Or what could Governor Romney do that Obama has not done?


Governor Romney has better plans for the economy and education,

Getting Americans back to work and having better curriculum for education.



Okay...what are they...If you know please tell all, since no one here, or for that matter in the media, can seem to figure out what his plans actually are.
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Postby Wamitoria » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:09 pm

Alien Space Bats wrote:
Wamitoria wrote:Judging by the continued retreat of the Republican Party into the wingnut singularity, are we at risk that the Romney campaign will use things like "unskewed" polls as a justification for claiming that Obama and the Democrats stole the election in November?

I'm seriously starting to worry about this.

The Romney campaign won't.

I'm not so sure about that.
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Postby Freedom of United Trevor » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:10 pm

Williamson wrote:
Freedom of United Trevor wrote:
Governor Romney has better plans for the economy and education,

Getting Americans back to work and having better curriculum for education.

how will he get American back to work and improve the curriculum for education.


Well by doing better than Obama on the economy and He will put students first.

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