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Postby Northern Dominus » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:30 pm

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Northern Dominus wrote:You know this almost begs for an experiment. Make the most insulting and denegrating movie possible featuring Jesus of Nazereth including pedophilia, bisexual group sex with Mary Magdaline and ALL of the disciples, and of course coprophilia.

Then ensure that every single Evangelical wingnut in Uganda such as Martin Ssempa sees some of the more outrageous moments of the silly movie and say it was produced in America.

Then sit back and watch, see what ensues.


Except they'll deny any results with the "EBIL MOZLEMZ KILLED MOAR" copout.
Of course, if you're slightly less dark than alabaster and live in a third world country and commit violence of some kind OF COURSE you're a muslim! How silly of me, I forgot to take my daily dose of propaganda from Fox and Michelle Malkin.

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Northern Dominus wrote:Corrected...for a variety of reasons which probably won't make a diference anyway.

And as I've mentioned, time and again, and which you've ignored time and again as well, religion doesn't matter. Ignorance and zealotry combined with charasmatic fanatical leadership in ANY religion can lead to a hair-trigger of violence if that particular narrow fundamentalist interperetation has believed their god has been insulted somehow.

The only difference between the islamic wingnut fundamentalists stirring up violence and riots in places like Tunisia Yemen and Egypt and the christian wingnut fundamentalists here in the US is the realization that if they took to the streets in outrage over the same sort of dumb movie that Mulsims have been reacting to is the fact that the US has more and better trained law enforcmenet that would disperse and arrest them very quickly indeed.

That is the only difference. Fundamentalist zealotry is fundametalist zealotry and dangerous no matter what religion is being used to bolster it.


are you saying Libya didn't have the funds to defend the building? I thought we were funding them.
They're getting support but they have an entire country to build, and they did the best they could but in the face of a rocket shelling plus mortar fire, that's a helluva lot of firepower.

I dunno if you know this but Libya went through a pretty devastating civil war this year...it takes time to rebuild the infrastructure and train new police officers, they don't grow on trees.
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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:31 pm

I know they went through a devastating war, but i also know we have given them at least enough for proper embassy/consulate security for fucks sake. Not to mention I thought they were on our side.
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Postby Souseiseki » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:31 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Northern Dominus wrote:Corrected...for a variety of reasons which probably won't make a diference anyway.

And as I've mentioned, time and again, and which you've ignored time and again as well, religion doesn't matter. Ignorance and zealotry combined with charasmatic fanatical leadership in ANY religion can lead to a hair-trigger of violence if that particular narrow fundamentalist interperetation has believed their god has been insulted somehow.

The only difference between the islamic wingnut fundamentalists stirring up violence and riots in places like Tunisia Yemen and Egypt and the christian wingnut fundamentalists here in the US is the realization that if they took to the streets in outrage over the same sort of dumb movie that Mulsims have been reacting to is the fact that the US has more and better trained law enforcmenet that would disperse and arrest them very quickly indeed.

That is the only difference. Fundamentalist zealotry is fundametalist zealotry and dangerous no matter what religion is being used to bolster it.


are you saying Libya didn't have the funds to defend the building? I thought we were funding them.

"Descriptions of the consulate attack described chaos and bloodshed, with Libyan security over-run and retreating.

"Nor was what happened in Benghazi a simple story of Americans assaulted by the Libyans they helped to liberate from Moammar Gadhafi last year, American officials say. Libyan security forces and a sympathetic local militia helped the Americans to suppress the attack and get the diplomats inside to safety."

"Libyan authorities investigating an attack on the US embassy in Benghazi have made four arrests."
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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:33 pm

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North Calaveras wrote:
are you saying Libya didn't have the funds to defend the building? I thought we were funding them.

"Descriptions of the consulate attack described chaos and bloodshed, with Libyan security over-run and retreating.

"Nor was what happened in Benghazi a simple story of Americans assaulted by the Libyans they helped to liberate from Moammar Gadhafi last year, American officials say. Libyan security forces and a sympathetic local militia helped the Americans to suppress the attack and get the diplomats inside to safety."

"Libyan authorities investigating an attack on the US embassy in Benghazi have made four arrests."


Hey im not saying they didn't try, it just seemed kind of...pathetic...
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Postby Souseiseki » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:34 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:"Descriptions of the consulate attack described chaos and bloodshed, with Libyan security over-run and retreating.

"Nor was what happened in Benghazi a simple story of Americans assaulted by the Libyans they helped to liberate from Moammar Gadhafi last year, American officials say. Libyan security forces and a sympathetic local militia helped the Americans to suppress the attack and get the diplomats inside to safety."

"Libyan authorities investigating an attack on the US embassy in Benghazi have made four arrests."


Hey im not saying they didn't try, it just seemed kind of...pathetic...

a surprise attack by a large group of trained people with RPGs will really fuck up your day yeah
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Postby Gauthier » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:36 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
Hey im not saying they didn't try, it just seemed kind of...pathetic...

a surprise attack by a large group of trained people with RPGs will really fuck up your day yeah


But you forgot a country that found freedom after a civil war always rebuilds itself instantly like a video game! It's the Libyans' fault they didn't prepare enough for the assault!
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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:37 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
Hey im not saying they didn't try, it just seemed kind of...pathetic...

a surprise attack by a large group of trained people with RPGs will really fuck up your day yeah


I agree? :blink:
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Postby Northern Dominus » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:39 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:"Descriptions of the consulate attack described chaos and bloodshed, with Libyan security over-run and retreating.

"Nor was what happened in Benghazi a simple story of Americans assaulted by the Libyans they helped to liberate from Moammar Gadhafi last year, American officials say. Libyan security forces and a sympathetic local militia helped the Americans to suppress the attack and get the diplomats inside to safety."

"Libyan authorities investigating an attack on the US embassy in Benghazi have made four arrests."


Hey im not saying they didn't try, it just seemed kind of...pathetic...
Yes because money instantly converts any schlub on the street into a Call-of-Duty death machine that can miraculously make it through sustained rocket fire and mortar bombardment and not be scared shitless at a coordinated assault such as that taking place in the middle of a riot.
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Postby Gravlen » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:43 pm

North Calaveras wrote:I know they went through a devastating war, but i also know we have given them at least enough for proper embassy/consulate security for fucks sake. Not to mention I thought they were on our side.

...

What?

Have you not been paying attention, or do you have the memory of a goldfish?
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Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.

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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:45 pm

Gravlen wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:I know they went through a devastating war, but i also know we have given them at least enough for proper embassy/consulate security for fucks sake. Not to mention I thought they were on our side.

...

What?

Have you not been paying attention, or do you have the memory of a goldfish?


oh ad hominids...

im done here anyways, you guys keep going if you want, i got a sci-fi debate to be at 8)
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Postby United Kingdom of Poland » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:50 pm

Northern Dominus wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
Hey im not saying they didn't try, it just seemed kind of...pathetic...
Yes because money instantly converts any schlub on the street into a Call-of-Duty death machine that can miraculously make it through sustained rocket fire and mortar bombardment and not be scared shitless at a coordinated assault such as that taking place in the middle of a riot.

or that killing 11 dudes gets control of an AC-130 gunship to kick but with.

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Postby Gravlen » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:51 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Gravlen wrote:...

What?

Have you not been paying attention, or do you have the memory of a goldfish?


oh ad hominids...

Ad hominem? No, seriously. We've gone over this before. Did you just skip over it, did you forget it already, or do you deliberately ignore it?
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Postby Northern Dominus » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:51 pm

United Kingdom of Poland wrote:
Northern Dominus wrote:Yes because money instantly converts any schlub on the street into a Call-of-Duty death machine that can miraculously make it through sustained rocket fire and mortar bombardment and not be scared shitless at a coordinated assault such as that taking place in the middle of a riot.

or that killing 11 dudes gets control of an AC-130 gunship to kick but with.
Not unless you have the hardline perk, then it's only 9... :twisted:
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:53 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Gravlen wrote:...

What?

Have you not been paying attention, or do you have the memory of a goldfish?


oh ad hominids...

im done here anyways, you guys keep going if you want, i got a sci-fi debate to be at 8)

"ad hominids" ... :clap:
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Postby Northern Dominus » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:53 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
oh ad hominids...

im done here anyways, you guys keep going if you want, i got a sci-fi debate to be at 8)

"ad hominids" ... :clap:

Ad Hominids....

Is that the name of some missing link that we've been unaware of up to this point?
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Postby United Kingdom of Poland » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:54 pm

Northern Dominus wrote:
United Kingdom of Poland wrote:or that killing 11 dudes gets control of an AC-130 gunship to kick but with.
Not unless you have the hardline perk, then it's only 9... :twisted:

forgot that, that means that 19 gets you a moab or is it 21

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Postby Souseiseki » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:55 pm

i actually googled ad hominid so i could get the "did you mean" thing to post but it seems like it's not 100% made up even as an argument

on the other hand, what i did find was completely irrelevant to the context he used it in, so
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:06 pm

Northern Dominus wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:"ad hominids" ... :clap:

Ad Hominids....

Is that the name of some missing link that we've been unaware of up to this point?

Yes, they were the first great ape marketers. They did the ad campaign for a new product called. "Fire". Took the market by storm every cave wanted one.
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Postby Northern Dominus » Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:10 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Northern Dominus wrote:Ad Hominids....

Is that the name of some missing link that we've been unaware of up to this point?

Yes, they were the first great ape marketers. They did the ad campaign for a new product called. "Fire". Took the market by storm every cave wanted one.
And yet I'm willing to bet there were "fire skeptics" in the bunch, or others that thought having heat and light was heritical and declared fire unholy...

Wonder if these "Ad Hominids" also went around selling the wheel too...
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Postby Lessnt » Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:40 pm

Muslims are tired of Western free speech insulting them so they attack our embassies.

The muslim religion in a nutshell.
Do what we say or we attack you.

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Postby Gravlen » Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:44 pm

Lessnt wrote:Muslims are tired of Western free speech insulting them so they attack our embassies.

The muslim religion in a nutshell.
Do what we say or we attack you.

So how bad are the riots in Kosovo and Albania? How many embassies are burning there did you say?
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Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.

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Postby Lessnt » Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:46 pm

Gravlen wrote:
Lessnt wrote:Muslims are tired of Western free speech insulting them so they attack our embassies.

The muslim religion in a nutshell.
Do what we say or we attack you.

So how bad are the riots in Kosovo and Albania? How many embassies are burning there did you say?

Aint my fault they scared.

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Postby Sulamalik » Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:46 pm

Gravlen wrote:
Lessnt wrote:Muslims are tired of Western free speech insulting them so they attack our embassies.

The muslim religion in a nutshell.
Do what we say or we attack you.

So how bad are the riots in Kosovo and Albania? How many embassies are burning there did you say?


This really isn't the guy you'd want to engage in a debate with. Just leave him be, I say.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:54 pm

Northern Dominus wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Yes, they were the first great ape marketers. They did the ad campaign for a new product called. "Fire". Took the market by storm every cave wanted one.
And yet I'm willing to bet there were "fire skeptics" in the bunch, or others that thought having heat and light was heritical and declared fire unholy...

Wonder if these "Ad Hominids" also went around selling the wheel too...

Sadly no, they went to sporks and got nowhere, they missed out on the wheel, and the species just died out. Truely an example of survival of the fittest.
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Postby Gauthier » Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:11 pm

Gravlen wrote:
Lessnt wrote:Muslims are tired of Western free speech insulting them so they attack our embassies.

The muslim religion in a nutshell.
Do what we say or we attack you.

So how bad are the riots in Kosovo and Albania? How many embassies are burning there did you say?


Shouldn't Michigan be a Jihadi province according to that logic?
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