Storming of the US Embassies in the Middle East Mega Thread

[Souseiseki]

uganda is pretty bad iirc

uganda is bad yes, but are they rioting against the US and destroying our embassy in the name of Christianity?

why would they (tear up a flag in/burn some cars near/what else has happened since i last checked) a US embassy in the name of christianity

[North Calaveras]

uganda is bad yes, but are they rioting against the US and destroying our embassy in the name of Christianity?

why would they destroy a US embassy in the name of christianity

idk why would Muslims destroy the US embassy/consulates?

[Sulamalik]

uganda is pretty bad iirc

uganda is bad yes, but are they rioting against the US and destroying our embassy in the name of Christianity?

They're brutally murdering homosexuals in the name of it.

[Gravlen]

uganda is pretty bad iirc

uganda is bad yes, but are they rioting against the US and destroying our embassy in the name of Christianity?

*sigh*

[Northern Dominus]

uganda is pretty bad iirc

uganda is bad yes, but are they rioting against the US and destroying our embassy in the name of Christianity?

Since you plainly missed it the last time:

so its a combination of religion and poverty?

It's a combination of deliberate ignorance and zealoted skewed fundamentalism, endemic to all faiths, period.

The only thing preventing what is happening in Egypt and Tunisia and Yemen from happening in the US if the same kind of deliberately incendiary video was made to offend evangelical christians is the fact that the police are more numerous, have better riot gear, and our courts can find devious ways to keep people in jail.

Ignorance and zealotry is ignorance and zealotry and the same no matter where you go. The people spurred to riot there are no different than the people over here who go batshit insane every time somebody brings up removing "under god" from the pledge of allegiance or a nativity scene from in front of a municipal building. They are, I repeat, one in the same.

[North Calaveras]

uganda is bad yes, but are they rioting against the US and destroying our embassy in the name of Christianity?

They're brutally murdering homosexuals in the name of it.

true, but they are isolated to uganada for the most part. There isn't some vast overarching goals by the LRA to act on a global level.

[Souseiseki]

why would they destroy a US embassy in the name of christianity

idk why would Muslims destroy the US embassy/consulates?

i don't want you to miss my edit so i guess i'll ask which u.s. embassy has been destroyed

[Gauthier]

uganda is bad yes, but are they rioting against the US and destroying our embassy in the name of Christianity?

*sigh*

Just goes to show Muslims are the only ones responsible for all the bad things in the world, silly.

[Sulamalik]

They're brutally murdering homosexuals in the name of it.

true, but they are isolated to uganada for the most part. There isn't some vast overarching goals by the LRA to act on a global level.

This isn't the LRA. The Ugandian government is introducing the death penalty for homosexuality.

[North Calaveras]

idk why would Muslims destroy the US embassy/consulates?

i don't want you to miss my edit so i guess i'll ask which u.s. embassy has been destroyed

consulate whatever, they are being attacked. Lets not cherry pick, just because the embassy in Libya is still intact dosn't mean it wasn't seiged.

Uganda christians are in the same kind of boat as these people according to many posters one NS

Poor, Uneducated, exploited the US(so they say) and using religion as an excuse, i don't see how this differs from muslims in the middle east

except when uganda see anti-christian pictures they don't go rioting and killing americans...

[Gauthier]

true, but they are isolated to uganada for the most part. There isn't some vast overarching goals by the LRA to act on a global level.

This isn't the LRA. The Ugandian government is introducing the death penalty for homosexuality.

But Uganda won't kill as much homosexuals as MOSLEMS so it's excused.

[Northern Dominus]

i don't want you to miss my edit so i guess i'll ask which u.s. embassy has been destroyed

consulate whatever, they are being attacked. Lets not cherry pick, just because the embassy in Libya is still intact dosn't mean it wasn't seiged.

Uganda christians are in the same kind of boat as these people according to many posters one NS

Poor, Uneducated, exploited the US(so they say) and using religion as an excuse, i don't see how this differs from muslims in the middle east

except when uganda see anti-christian pictures they don't go rioting and killing americans...

Since when have they been shown imagery designed specifically to incense the flames of deliberate ignorance and zealotry exactly? Surely you have a source for this...

[Sulamalik]

i don't want you to miss my edit so i guess i'll ask which u.s. embassy has been destroyed

consulate whatever, they are being attacked. Lets not cherry pick, just because the embassy in Libya is still intact dosn't mean it wasn't seiged.

Uganda christians are in the same kind of boat as these people according to many posters one NS

Poor, Uneducated, exploited the US(so they say) and using religion as an excuse, i don't see how this differs from muslims in the middle east

except when uganda see anti-christian pictures they don't go rioting and killing americans...

Why does it matter if the victims are American? They're killing people in the name of God.

[Gauthier]

consulate whatever, they are being attacked. Lets not cherry pick, just because the embassy in Libya is still intact dosn't mean it wasn't seiged.

Uganda christians are in the same kind of boat as these people according to many posters one NS

Poor, Uneducated, exploited the US(so they say) and using religion as an excuse, i don't see how this differs from muslims in the middle east

except when uganda see anti-christian pictures they don't go rioting and killing americans...

Since when have they been shown imagery designed specifically to incense the flames of deliberate ignorance and zealotry exactly? Surely you have a source for this...

And I don't recall the last time the United States directly meddled in Ugandan government affairs. Sending in consultants to help hunt down the LRA doesn't count.

[Souseiseki]

i don't want you to miss my edit so i guess i'll ask which u.s. embassy has been destroyed

consulate whatever, they are being attacked. Lets not cherry pick, just because the embassy in Libya is still intact dosn't mean it wasn't seiged.

Uganda christians are in the same kind of boat as these people according to many posters one NS

Poor, Uneducated, exploited the US(so they say) and using religion as an excuse, i don't see how this differs from muslims in the middle east

except when uganda see anti-christian pictures they don't go rioting and killing americans...

cherry pick? you said destroy, one has been attacked, two others have had flags torn up. "destroy".

the u.s. is pretty christian so that makes sense. they kill homosexuals a lot though. ):

though, yes, let's get this clear. the attack on the libyan embassy was planned beforehand and used the protests as a smoke screen. i am unaware of any other american (or libyans, for that matter, i'm sure you care about their deaths just as much) deaths but i guess i did take a long break.

[North Calaveras]

consulate whatever, they are being attacked. Lets not cherry pick, just because the embassy in Libya is still intact dosn't mean it wasn't seiged.

Uganda christians are in the same kind of boat as these people according to many posters one NS

Poor, Uneducated, exploited the US(so they say) and using religion as an excuse, i don't see how this differs from muslims in the middle east

except when uganda see anti-christian pictures they don't go rioting and killing americans...

cherry pick? you said destroy, one has been attacked, two others have had flags torn up. "destroy".

the u.s. is pretty christian so that makes sense. they kill homosexuals a lot though. ):

though, yes, let's get this clear. the attack on the libyan embassy was planned beforehand and used the protests as a smoke screen. i am unaware of any other american (or libyans, for that matter, i'm sure you care about their deaths just as much) deaths but i guess i did take a long break.

whether or not they kill gays is not the point

the point is you have two groups that are for all intents and purposes the exact same thing save ones christian the other is muslim yet your only getting one reaction from the muslims not the christians

why is that? If its because the US is christian then that would mean the muslims are doing it because the US is not christian.

[Northern Dominus]

Since when have they been shown imagery designed specifically to incense the flames of deliberate ignorance and zealotry exactly? Surely you have a source for this...

And I don't recall the last time the United States directly meddled in Ugandan government affairs. Sending in consultants to help hunt down the LRA doesn't count.

You know this almost begs for an experiment. Make the most insulting and denegrating movie possible featuring Jesus of Nazereth including pedophilia, bisexual group sex with Mary Magdaline and ALL of the disciples, and of course coprophilia.

Then ensure that every single Evangelical wingnut in Uganda such as Martin Ssempa sees some of the more outrageous moments of the silly movie and say it was produced in America.

Then sit back and watch, see what ensues.

[North Calaveras]

And I don't recall the last time the United States directly meddled in Ugandan government affairs. Sending in consultants to help hunt down the LRA doesn't count.

You know this almost begs for an experiment. Make the most insulting and denegrating movie possible featuring Jesus of Nazereth including pedophilia, bisexual group sex with Mary Magdaline and ALL of the disciples, and of course coprophilia.

Then ensure that every single Evangelical wingnut in Uganda such as Martin Ssempa sees some of the more outrageous moments of the silly movie and say it was produced in America.

Then sit back and watch, see what ensues.

They already have good ties with US christians, im sure they have seen these things already.

[Gauthier]

And I don't recall the last time the United States directly meddled in Ugandan government affairs. Sending in consultants to help hunt down the LRA doesn't count.

You know this almost begs for an experiment. Make the most insulting and denegrating movie possible featuring Jesus of Nazereth including pedophilia, bisexual group sex with Mary Magdaline and ALL of the disciples, and of course coprophilia.

Then ensure that every single Evangelical wingnut in Uganda such as Martin Ssempa sees some of the more outrageous moments of the silly movie and say it was produced in America.

Then sit back and watch, see what ensues.

Except they'll deny any results with the "EBIL MOZLEMZ KILLED MOAR" copout.

[Souseiseki]

cherry pick? you said destroy, one has been attacked, two others have had flags torn up. "destroy".

the u.s. is pretty christian so that makes sense. they kill homosexuals a lot though. ):

though, yes, let's get this clear. the attack on the libyan embassy was planned beforehand and used the protests as a smoke screen. i am unaware of any other american (or libyans, for that matter, i'm sure you care about their deaths just as much) deaths but i guess i did take a long break.

whether or not they kill gays is not the point

the point is you have two groups that are for all intents and purposes the exact same thing save ones christian the other is muslim yet your only getting one reaction from the muslims not the christians

why is that? If its because the US is christian then that would mean the muslims are doing it because the US is not christian.

but yes, i am a bit of a cherry picker! now that we've established that no embassies were destroyed, did any americans die outside of libya?

has there ever been an equivalent video? killing gay people because they're against your religion seems like it would be higher up on any list than tearing up an embassy flag because someone made a bad video to deliberately incite religious hatred but maybe it's just me. "reaction".

[Gravlen]

cherry pick? you said destroy, one has been attacked, two others have had flags torn up. "destroy".

the u.s. is pretty christian so that makes sense. they kill homosexuals a lot though. ):

though, yes, let's get this clear. the attack on the libyan embassy was planned beforehand and used the protests as a smoke screen. i am unaware of any other american (or libyans, for that matter, i'm sure you care about their deaths just as much) deaths but i guess i did take a long break.

whether or not they kill gays is not the point

the point is you have two groups that are for all intents and purposes the exact same thing save ones christian the other is muslim yet your only getting one reaction from the muslims not the christians

why is that? If its because the US is christian then that would mean the muslims are doing it because the US is not christian.

...

What?

[Northern Dominus]

You know this almost begs for an experiment. Make the most insulting and denegrating movie possible featuring Jesus of Nazereth including pedophilia, bisexual group sex with Mary Magdaline and ALL of the disciples, and of course coprophilia.

Then ensure that every single Evangelical wingnut in Uganda such as Martin Ssempa sees some of the more outrageous moments of the silly movie and say it was produced in America.

Then sit back and watch, see what ensues.

They already have good ties with US christians evangelical wingnuts, im sure they have seen these things already.

Corrected...for a variety of reasons which probably won't make a diference anyway.

And as I've mentioned, time and again, and which you've ignored time and again as well, religion doesn't matter. Ignorance and zealotry combined with charasmatic fanatical leadership in ANY religion can lead to a hair-trigger of violence if that particular narrow fundamentalist interperetation has believed their god has been insulted somehow.

The only difference between the islamic wingnut fundamentalists stirring up violence and riots in places like Tunisia Yemen and Egypt and the christian wingnut fundamentalists here in the US is the realization that if they took to the streets in outrage over the same sort of dumb movie that Mulsims have been reacting to is the fact that the US has more and better trained law enforcmenet that would disperse and arrest them very quickly indeed.

That is the only difference. Fundamentalist zealotry is fundametalist zealotry and dangerous no matter what religion is being used to bolster it.

[North Calaveras]

whether or not they kill gays is not the point

the point is you have two groups that are for all intents and purposes the exact same thing save ones christian the other is muslim yet your only getting one reaction from the muslims not the christians

why is that? If its because the US is christian then that would mean the muslims are doing it because the US is not christian.

but yes, i am a bit of a cherry picker! now that we've established that no embassies were destroyed, did any americans die outside of libya?

has there ever been an equivalent video? killing gay people because they're against your religion seems like it would be higher up on any list than tearing up an embassy flag because someone made a bad video to deliberately incite religious hatred but maybe it's just me. "reaction".

difference is that they were targeting there own countrymen

btw gay people in the middle east aren't treated much better either

They don't react in such a violent manner that's what Im saying, there both totalitarian shit bags in this case, but one it outwards acting and the other acts inwards into it's own people.

[North Calaveras]

They already have good ties with US christians evangelical wingnuts, im sure they have seen these things already.

Corrected...for a variety of reasons which probably won't make a diference anyway.

And as I've mentioned, time and again, and which you've ignored time and again as well, religion doesn't matter. Ignorance and zealotry combined with charasmatic fanatical leadership in ANY religion can lead to a hair-trigger of violence if that particular narrow fundamentalist interperetation has believed their god has been insulted somehow.

The only difference between the islamic wingnut fundamentalists stirring up violence and riots in places like Tunisia Yemen and Egypt and the christian wingnut fundamentalists here in the US is the realization that if they took to the streets in outrage over the same sort of dumb movie that Mulsims have been reacting to is the fact that the US has more and better trained law enforcmenet that would disperse and arrest them very quickly indeed.

That is the only difference. Fundamentalist zealotry is fundametalist zealotry and dangerous no matter what religion is being used to bolster it.

are you saying Libya didn't have the funds to defend the building? I thought we were funding them.

[Souseiseki]

but yes, i am a bit of a cherry picker! now that we've established that no embassies were destroyed, did any americans die outside of libya?

has there ever been an equivalent video? killing gay people because they're against your religion seems like it would be higher up on any list than tearing up an embassy flag because someone made a bad video to deliberately incite religious hatred but maybe it's just me. "reaction".

difference is that they were targeting there own countrymen

btw gay people in the middle east aren't treated much better either

They don't react in such a violent manner that's what Im saying, there both totalitarian shit bags in this case, but one it outwards acting and the other acts inwards into it's own people.

how so? do you think they're ok with the gay unless you're ugandan? even if that was true, how does that diminish the reaction?

see the others guys post

killing people is pretty violent.