What happened to EDL?

[Forster Keys]

I don't see how the EDL is any worse than Islam4UK which advocates for Shariah law to be fully implemented in the UK.

They aren't really. They're both stupid organisations.

[L Ron Cupboard]

I don't see how the EDL is any worse than Islam4UK which advocates for Shariah law to be fully implemented in the UK.

I don't see how they are any better either.

[North Calaveras]

I don't see how the EDL is any worse than Islam4UK which advocates for Shariah law to be fully implemented in the UK.

They aren't really. They're both stupid organisations.

That might be the case at times, but the EDL at least welcomes all(even moderate muslims, though they would be to afraid to do that cause of there friends)

which ones worse: a sometimes violent group that wants to preserve it's nations culture as well as the freedoms they have, or a sometimes violent group that wants to impose religious law.

[Forster Keys]

What exactly is the threat?

Islamic extremism and the threat is poses to the British way of life for the most part(at least that's from what i understand)

it's been awhile and I don't know a ton about the EDL, but i think that about sums it up, fear of shariah law and Islamism.

All they do is talk a load of bullshit and troll people. If Islamists started to try and enforce their laws concertedly, and en masse, and the police were unable to act accordingly I'd understand. But that isn't the situation.

[North Calaveras]

Islamic extremism and the threat is poses to the British way of life for the most part(at least that's from what i understand)

it's been awhile and I don't know a ton about the EDL, but i think that about sums it up, fear of shariah law and Islamism.

All they do is talk a load of bullshit and troll people. If Islamists started to try and enforce their laws concertedly, and en masse, and the police were unable to act accordingly I'd understand. But that isn't the situation.

your mostly right, except for the really bad areas where police don't like going.

[Forster Keys]

They aren't really. They're both stupid organisations.

That might be the case at times, but the EDL at least welcomes all(even moderate muslims, though they would be to afraid to do that cause of there friends)

More like the people within the EDL itself. The kind of people these sort of fringe groups tend to attract is depressingly uniform.

which ones worse: a sometimes violent group that wants to preserve it's nations culture as well as the freedoms they have, or a sometimes violent group that wants to impose religious law.

I don't care about splitting hairs. I disagree with both of them.

[North Calaveras]

That might be the case at times, but the EDL at least welcomes all(even moderate muslims, though they would be to afraid to do that cause of there friends)

More like the people within the EDL itself. The kind of people these sort of fringe groups tend to attract is depressingly uniform.

which ones worse: a sometimes violent group that wants to preserve it's nations culture as well as the freedoms they have, or a sometimes violent group that wants to impose religious law.

I don't care about splitting hairs. I disagree with both of them.

hey you might be right, but if im choosing one im supporting the EDL FAR more than im supporting the islamists

Try to find and watch that documentary i told you about, its pretty good

[The UK in Exile]

they're the only ones doing it because no-one else is concerned.

I disagree, I think there seeing something dangerous coming and there trying to prevent it while others don't seem to see the threat.

ok.

your wrong though.

[Forster Keys]

More like the people within the EDL itself. The kind of people these sort of fringe groups tend to attract is depressingly uniform.



I don't care about splitting hairs. I disagree with both of them.

hey you might be right, but if im choosing one im supporting the EDL FAR more than im supporting the islamists

Try to find and watch that documentary i told you about, its pretty good

I'll see what I can do.

[North Calaveras]

I disagree, I think there seeing something dangerous coming and there trying to prevent it while others don't seem to see the threat.

ok.

your wrong though.

Your saying that the EDL doesn't think the Islamist are a threat?

[The UK in Exile]

ok.

your wrong though.

Your saying that the EDL doesn't think the Islamist are a threat?

their wrong.

[North Calaveras]

Your saying that the EDL doesn't think the Islamist are a threat?

their wrong.

Meh, that's your opinion

[The UK in Exile]

their wrong.

Meh, that's your opinion

no actually, its not. the country isn't under threat from islam. thats fairly rational assessment of the facts.

[North Calaveras]

Meh, that's your opinion

no actually, its not. the country isn't under threat from islam. thats fairly rational assessment of the facts.

Id suggest watching the documentary I was referring to, as well as some other sources before jumping to that conclusion.

I don't think the entire nation is at risk, but it's a growing threat in my opinion.

[The UK in Exile]

no actually, its not. the country isn't under threat from islam. thats fairly rational assessment of the facts.

Id suggest watching the documentary I was referring to, as well as some other sources before jumping to that conclusion.

I don't think the entire nation is at risk, but it's a growing threat in my opinion.

yeah, its overtaken earthquakes and dark wizards as a threat to the UK. it currently sits between an invasion by the Swiss and republicanism on the list of things we need to worry about.

[North Calaveras]

Id suggest watching the documentary I was referring to, as well as some other sources before jumping to that conclusion.

I don't think the entire nation is at risk, but it's a growing threat in my opinion.

yeah, its overtaken earthquakes and dark wizards as a threat to the UK. it currently sits between and invasion by the Swiss and republicanism on the list of things we need to worry about.

ugh..why do I even bother with you UK in exile...

[The UK in Exile]

yeah, its overtaken earthquakes and dark wizards as a threat to the UK. it currently sits between and invasion by the Swiss and republicanism on the list of things we need to worry about.

ugh..why do I even bother with you UK in exile...

because if you only bothered with people who took the EDL seriously you'd have no-one to talk to.

[North Calaveras]

ugh..why do I even bother with you UK in exile...

because if you only bothered with people who took the EDL seriously you'd have no-one to talk to.

Why are you so mean...

[Forster Keys]

because if you only bothered with people who took the EDL seriously you'd have no-one to talk to.

Why are you so mean...

He was more paying out the EDL than you.

[Kinitaria]

Where do the EDL even perform these so-called "rallies"? I haven't seen any here in Newcastle before.

They were in Newcastle on the Queen's Jubilee weekend. They're also planning to be in Sunderland next month.

[Ad Nihilo]

Bunch of males with an excess of pent up aggression looking for a socially acceptable way to vent ever since the police started taking football riots seriously?

And how lucky they thought they were when they found a target against which to prove themselves real men, whilst also finding themselves free to articulate that niggling racism/xenophobia they've had at the back of their tongues for as long as they they've been alive. And they get to fly the flag of "civic responsibility" to boot!

I'm frankly shocked and appalled that women all over don't just fall at the feet of these young and handsome knights in white armour and service them there and then, now that they have nothing to fear from brown men with bigger dicks and bearing gifts of plentiful dark cloth!

That's quite accurate for the ones you see on the TV, muttering and rambling about "muslamics". For the ones the media tells you about.

Well yes, but even supposing that there are some gentle-hearted philosophers amongst the football hooligans, the problem is that as a person who is educated, left wing and not English, I wouldn't make it very far into such a crowd to meet them. There's also no obvious reason why I should even try. I have no sympathy for any movement that let's its "worse elements" speak for it, and it is certainly the case that what comes loudest out of the EDL is just racism and xenophobia.

And this is from a guy who has very little problem with banning burquas, for example.

[Norsklow]

There are times that a little bit of police brutality is a great thing.

[Tagmatium]

There are times that a little bit of police brutality is a great thing.

Most of them probably support the EDL.

[Norsklow]

There are times that a little bit of police brutality is a great thing.

Most of them probably support the EDL.

I don't know about that.
I've never had a hostile confrontation with the police. The EDL fans OTOH...

[Ad Nihilo]

There are times that a little bit of police brutality is a great thing.

Most of them probably support the EDL.

I doubt it. The police has in the past been found to be more keen on the BNP actually.