What happened to EDL?

[Priory Academy USSR]

I think they were all killed by the Muslamic Ray Guns

[Varijnland]

they want to change England's terrible justice policies regarding muslims including a case where 4 muslim women beat up another women (because she was White) and were let off because the Judge said they were not used to alcohol.

Source, please.

Because that just sounds like bullshit propaganda.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2070562/Muslim-girl-gang-kicked-Rhea-Page-head-yelling-kill-white-slag-FREED.html

*other link not working*

You were saying?

[Tagmatium]

I think they were all killed by the Muslamic Ray Guns

Presumably he'd just finished his breakfast Special Brew.

[Varijnland]

I think they were all killed by the Muslamic Ray Guns

Presumably he'd just finished his breakfast Special Brew.

No comments on the "bullshit propoganda" then?

Ok

[Nationalist State of Knox]

Where do the EDL even perform these so-called "rallies"? I haven't seen any here in Newcastle before.

[Tagmatium]

Presumably he'd just finished his breakfast Special Brew.

No comments on the "bullshit propoganda" then?

Ok

Read into that what you want.

I'm not here to educate or enlighten, just amuse myself.

[Ostroeuropa]

No comments on the "bullshit propoganda" then?

Ok

Read into that what you want.

I'm not here to educate or enlighten.

I think the second sentence here speaks poorly of you.

[Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f]

Pretty sure we'd have heard of it if they'd all been stabbed to death.

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Turns out those dastardly Europeans foisted a right to free expression upon you.

Again, parliamentary supremacy would mean it doesn't apply. That's the line of the government, even if I don't agree with it. If parliament passes a law against free speech, it trumps all previous treaties and laws.
Incidentally, protection of health and morals allows ANY violation. It's a totally useless article.

Allowed exceptions:
interests of national security
territorial integrity or public safety
prevention of disorder or crime
protection of health or morals
protection of the reputation or the rights of others
preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence
maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary

Name for me one type of speech you couldn't ban using one of these exceptions.


Also, a very good example of how much free speech we have under that provision.

European Nations With Laws Outlawing Genocide Denial
Austria
Belgium
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Czech Republic
France
Germany
Hungary
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Luxembourg
The Netherlands

The European Union's executive Commission proposed a European Union-wide anti-racism xenophobia law in 2001, which included the criminalization of Holocaust denial.

That and of course the entire libel laws thing....where UK law firms make a killing suppressing stories...

[Ostroeuropa]

That and of course the entire libel laws thing....where UK law firms make a killing suppressing stories...

Yep that too.

[Tagmatium]

Read into that what you want.

I'm not here to educate or enlighten.

I think the second sentence here speaks poorly of you.

Meh.

Sometimes I might, but by-and-large, I'm not going to shake the ignorance out of anyone.

That part of me was killed by NSG a long time ago.

[Ostroeuropa]

I think the second sentence here speaks poorly of you.

Meh.

Sometimes I might, but by-and-large, I'm not going to shake the ignorance out of anyone.

That part of me was killed by NSG a long time ago.

I doubt i've changed many opinions, but still have to give it the old college try.

[Fnordgasm 5]

I assume they took a good hard look at themselves and decided to grow up?

[Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f]

I assume they took a good hard look at themselves and decided to grow up?

Have you spotted any flying pigs recently?

[Fnordgasm 5]

I assume they took a good hard look at themselves and decided to grow up?

Have you spotted any flying pigs recently?

Only the ones I launch from my trebuchet when I want to pretend that world is as awesome as me.

[Forsakia]

Those who live by the sword, die by the sword.

Pretty sure we'd have heard of it if they'd all been stabbed to death.

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Actually not. It's a huge point of contention.
Until recently we had blasphemy laws. We have a culture that is strongly in favour (nominally) of free speech, but a government that wont pass acts to support it.
MOSTLY because of parliamentary superiority. We cant pass a free speech law giving us the right to free speech, since any new law banning certain speech would automatically supercede it.

Turns out those dastardly Europeans foisted a right to free expression upon you.

Iirc the ECHR was mostly written by the British.

[Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f]

Have you spotted any flying pigs recently?

Only the ones I launch from my trebuchet when I want to pretend that world is as awesome as me.

[Cosmopoles]

Source, please.

Because that just sounds like bullshit propaganda.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2070562/Muslim-girl-gang-kicked-Rhea-Page-head-yelling-kill-white-slag-FREED.html

*other link not working*

You were saying?

Their defence lawyer said that they were not used to alcohol - the judge said bugger all about it. So yes, bullshit propaganda, not that I'd expect anything else from the DM.

[Scottish Highlands and Islands]

a case where 4 muslim women beat up another women (because she was White) and were let off because the Judge said they were not used to alcohol. It also seems that you are more likely to be attacked for condeming radical islam than you are for supporting them nowadays which is completely wrong.

You're right, that was utter bullshit and everybody - on both sides, non-muslim and muslim - were outraged by that. But it's not enough to justify retribution attacks on them.

@OP: The EDL have all disappeared as they were given a simple Rebus puzzle to solve. They couldn't do it so they realised how terrible their lives were so they all went to hide in the sewers.

Edit: grammatical error.

[Ad Nihilo]

Perhaps Anders Breivik's links to them, and admiration of them, woke people up to the kind of people they are.

You literaly have no idea "what kind of people they are".

Bunch of males with an excess of pent up aggression looking for a socially acceptable way to vent ever since the police started taking football riots seriously?

And how lucky they thought they were when they found a target against which to prove themselves real men, whilst also finding themselves free to articulate that niggling racism/xenophobia they've had at the back of their tongues for as long as they they've been alive. And they get to fly the flag of "civic responsibility" to boot!

I'm frankly shocked and appalled that women all over don't just fall at the feet of these young and handsome knights in white armour and service them there and then, now that they have nothing to fear from brown men with bigger dicks and bearing gifts of plentiful dark cloth!

[Lackadaisical2]

Wow, anti-EDL protestors violate the free speech of 'fascists' how ironic.

No 1st amendment in the UK...hate speech is illegal.

Good thing I didn't mention the 1st amendment then. I can however safely assume that the EDL were legally allowed to have their public meeting since the police were there to separate the protestors...

[Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f]

No 1st amendment in the UK...hate speech is illegal.

Good thing I didn't mention the 1st amendment then. I can however safely assume that the EDL were legally allowed to have their public meeting since the police were there to separate the protestors...

You didn't need to

[Nadkor]

They had a rally in Walthamstow a couple of weeks ago...

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jakew ... breakdown/

Wow, anti-EDL protestors violate the free speech of 'fascists' how ironic.

You seem to be mistakenly under the impression that "free speech" doesn't also include the right of people who disagree to shout you down.

[Ostroeuropa]

Wow, anti-EDL protestors violate the free speech of 'fascists' how ironic.

You seem to be mistakenly under the impression that "free speech" doesn't also include the right of people who disagree to shout you down.

I disagree with this.
If you drown out someones speech by shouting, you havn't given them the right to speak really.
Freedom of speech implies the freedom of people to listen to ideas and judge them for themselves.
It's the listener who loses out in those cases.

[Nadkor]

No 1st amendment in the UK...hate speech is illegal.

Good thing I didn't mention the 1st amendment then. I can however safely assume that the EDL were legally allowed to have their public meeting since the police were there to separate the protestors...

They were legally entitled to have their public meeting, the counter-protest was equally entitled to shout them down.

As many people do, you seem to be forgetting that free speech laws and rights exist to stop the government from abridging an individual's right to free speech.

[Ad Nihilo]

I disagree with this.
If you drown out someones speech by shouting, you havn't given them the right to speak really.
Freedom of speech implies the freedom of people to listen to ideas and judge them for themselves.
It's the listener who loses out in those cases.

Silly boy. Freedom of speech means that you can say shit and not get prosecuted for it. It doesn't mean that anybody has to listen to the shit you say - unless you want to put people in prison now for breaching their obligation to listen to everything the other few million people have to say.