What happened to EDL?

[Cosmopoles]

Quote the statement from the judge in that article where he states that he gave them a suspended sentence because they weren't used to alcohol, as you claimed he did.

Do you want me to write a letter to the judge? You find the quote.

I'm not in the habit of defending other people's arguments. If you want to make a point, you provide the evidence which supports it. You don't pull statements out of your arse then demand that others justify them for you.

[The UK in Exile]

Actually the judge wasn't convinced that it was racial motivated and dismissed the defendant's claim that the women weren't used to alcohol.

http://www.anorak.co.uk/304408/news/sun ... ting.html/

Weren't used to alcohol because..........

the judge heard that they were not used to alcohol.

the judge did not sentence them lightly because they were not used to alcohol.

[Varijnland]

Im not arguing anything about the story, he let 4 people, guilty of a blatently racist attack go, thats it. Full stop.

No, you said:

the Judge said they were not used to alcohol

Which was false. You know, the opposite of the truth. The reason he gave for giving them a suspended sentence is right there in the article and has fuck all to do with their religion, making this case utterly irrelevant to this thread.

Are you really that ignorant to think that the outcome would be the same had it been the other way around? So yes it does have to do with their religion.

[Cosmopoles]

No, you said:



Which was false. You know, the opposite of the truth. The reason he gave for giving them a suspended sentence is right there in the article and has fuck all to do with their religion, making this case utterly irrelevant to this thread.

Are you really that ignorant to think that the outcome would be the same had it been the other way around? So yes it does have to do with their religion.

The women claimed that they were racially abused, which the judge dismissed. So yes, it does work the 'other way round' too, but apparently you are too ignorant to read your own sources - or maybe just too ignorant to pick up on the parts that don't fit in with your own narrow worldview.

[Varijnland]

Do you want me to write a letter to the judge? You find the quote.

I'm not in the habit of defending other people's arguments. If you want to make a point, you provide the evidence which supports it. You don't pull statements out of your arse then demand that others justify them for you.

And what if i cannot be arsed to find the quote?

[The UK in Exile]

I'm not in the habit of defending other people's arguments. If you want to make a point, you provide the evidence which supports it. You don't pull statements out of your arse then demand that others justify them for you.

And what if i cannot be arsed to find the quote?

then mabye don't hold opinions.

that would be the ideal solution.

for your own sake really.

[Varijnland]

Are you really that ignorant to think that the outcome would be the same had it been the other way around? So yes it does have to do with their religion.

The women claimed that they were racially abused, which the judge dismissed. So yes, it does work the 'other way round' too, but apparently you are too ignorant to read your own sources - or maybe just too ignorant to pick up on the parts that don't fit in with your own narrow worldview.

Or rather the truth of the whole case doesn't fit with Your own very selective narrow worldview

[Cosmopoles]

I'm not in the habit of defending other people's arguments. If you want to make a point, you provide the evidence which supports it. You don't pull statements out of your arse then demand that others justify them for you.

And what if i cannot be arsed to find the quote?

Then perhaps trying to form a coherent argument is still a bit too taxing for you, which honestly doesn't surprise me.

[Cosmopoles]

The women claimed that they were racially abused, which the judge dismissed. So yes, it does work the 'other way round' too, but apparently you are too ignorant to read your own sources - or maybe just too ignorant to pick up on the parts that don't fit in with your own narrow worldview.

Or rather the truth of the whole case doesn't fit with Your own very selective narrow worldview

What 'truth' would this be? The truth laid out in the article you misquoted, or the alleged truth that only exists in your own mind and which you are claiming you can't be bothered to prove because you know yourself that you're wrong?

[Priory Academy USSR]

Or rather the truth of the whole case doesn't fit with Your own very selective narrow worldview

What 'truth' would this be? The truth laid out in the article you misquoted, or the alleged truth that only exists in your own mind and which you are claiming you can't be bothered to prove because you know yourself that you're wrong?

It's bad when a right winger can misquote the Daily Mail.

[Varijnland]

What 'truth' would this be? The truth laid out in the article you misquoted, or the alleged truth that only exists in your own mind and which you are claiming you can't be bothered to prove because you know yourself that you're wrong?

It's bad when a right winger can misquote the Daily Mail.

And I think its bad when people actualy want to remain ignorant to what actualy matters in the case and in the thread.

[Varijnland]

Prediction for next post: "so what does matter, Mr racsist nazi man?"

[Cosmopoles]

What 'truth' would this be? The truth laid out in the article you misquoted, or the alleged truth that only exists in your own mind and which you are claiming you can't be bothered to prove because you know yourself that you're wrong?

It's bad when a right winger can misquote the Daily Mail.

Technically, even the DM has to report the truth. But they do so with ambiguous headlines and shove any mitigating facts at the end of the article with all the bile in the first few paragraphs. Short attention spans, Chinese whispers and confirmation bias combine to turn a fairly typically story of drunk people getting into a fight to "omg judge lets them go free cos its racist now to put muslims in jail".

[Cosmopoles]

It's bad when a right winger can misquote the Daily Mail.

And I think its bad when people actualy want to remain ignorant to what actualy matters in the case and in the thread.

So now that its been clearly demonstrated that that your initial post was unhindered by pesky facts, what exactly are the EDL here to save British people like myself from?

[White Citizens Worldwide]

They've been busy and they're not going anywhere.
http://englishdefenceleague.org/

[The UK in Exile]

They've been busy and they're not going anywhere.
http://englishdefenceleague.org/

well if they did they'd need to change the name, for a start.

[Varijnland]

And I think its bad when people actualy want to remain ignorant to what actualy matters in the case and in the thread.

So now that its been clearly demonstrated that that your initial post was unhindered by pesky facts, what exactly are the EDL here to save British people like myself from?

From people like Anjem Choudary and the Islam4Uk movement (I trust I don't need a left wing source to back up the reality of these people) and the government's spineless inability to effectivley combat Islamic extremism which is an ever growing trend amongst our (I am British citizen too) Muslim communities. Injustices such as the said case and many others like it may become a re-occurence if the government and the people do nothing. At least the EDL (however shit they're doing it) are trying to raise awareness of this matter while everyone else stays quiet. Now I'm not planning on rambling all night so I'm off to bed now. And no Witty antics while I'm gone and that goes for both of you

[Priory Academy USSR]

So now that its been clearly demonstrated that that your initial post was unhindered by pesky facts, what exactly are the EDL here to save British people like myself from?

From people like Anjem Choudary and the Islam4Uk movement (I trust I don't need a left wing source to back up the reality of these people) and the government's spineless inability to effectivley combat Islamic extremism which is an ever growing trend amongst our (I am British citizen too) Muslim communities. Injustices such as the said case and many others like it may become a re-occurence if the government and the people do nothing. At least the EDL (however shit they're doing it) are trying to raise awareness of this matter while everyone else stays quiet. Now I'm not planning on rambling all night so I'm off to bed now. And no Witty antics while I'm gone and that goes for both of you

Islam4UK was shut down by the Government, along with all of it's successor movements. You were saying something about 'spineless'?

[White Citizens Worldwide]

They've been busy and they're not going anywhere.
http://englishdefenceleague.org/

well if they did they'd need to change the name, for a start.

It is agencies like theirs that inadvertently allow the opposition to gain strength as well. Although they are Anti-Islamic; they are also against us, as are European Defence Leagues...for they are "...committed to countering extremism, wherever it be found....will guard against anything that would threaten our diverse and tolerant nations....are anti-extremist, anti-fascist, and anti-racist."

http://englishdefenceleague.org/europea ... ce-leagues
Every time I see these guys. English Defence League is part of that mess and WE have nothing to do with them.

[Priory Academy USSR]

well if they did they'd need to change the name, for a start.

It is agencies like theirs that inadvertently allow the opposition to gain strength as well. Although they are Anti-Islamic; they are also against us, as are European Defence Leagues...for they are "...committed to countering extremism, wherever it be found....will guard against anything that would threaten our diverse and tolerant nations....are anti-extremist, anti-fascist, and anti-racist."

http://englishdefenceleague.org/europea ... ce-leagues
Every time I see these guys. English Defence League is part of that mess and WE have nothing to do with them.

What opposition?

[Cosmopoles]

So now that its been clearly demonstrated that that your initial post was unhindered by pesky facts, what exactly are the EDL here to save British people like myself from?

From people like Anjem Choudary and the Islam4Uk movement (I trust I don't need a left wing source to back up the reality of these people) and the government's spineless inability to effectivley combat Islamic extremism which is an ever growing trend amongst our (I am British citizen too) Muslim communities. Injustices such as the said case and many others like it may become a re-occurence if the government and the people do nothing. At least the EDL (however shit they're doing it) are trying to raise awareness of this matter while everyone else stays quiet. Now I'm not planning on rambling all night so I'm off to bed now. And no Witty antics while I'm gone and that goes for both of you

How can you possibly conclude that 'everyone else stays quiet'? Every single major media outlet in the UK already reports when Anjem Choudary holds a protest or someone is arrested for terrorist plots.

[L Ron Cupboard]

You literaly have no idea "what kind of people they are".

Well being English I probably have rather a better idea than you do.

[Tagmatium]

You literaly have no idea "what kind of people they are".

Well being English I probably have rather a better idea than you do.

Well, indeed:

Im not English so I wouldn't truly know, and there is a difference between what it means to be English and what English means.