Anti-Americanism on NationStates

[Xanixi]

Actually, converting to such a foreign policy would probably result in the world calling the USA out on her inability to help other nations in need.

Well its a better policy then a policy of pulverizing brown people in tents.

...Uh...

I'm not sure how that responds to what I said.

[Neu Heidelberg]

Half the problems of the world are there because the USA (and some other, mostly Western, countries) have been propping up tinpot dictators for decades.

If the USA should be called out, it should be on trying to fill one hole with another one.

[Republic of Liberty and Freedom]

Well its a better policy then a policy of pulverizing brown people in tents.

...Uh...

I'm not sure how that responds to what I said.

Essentially having people crying because you arent giving aid to some despot whos engineered a famine is worth the life of one kid whose been blown up by a drone.Leave everyone to sort out their own business,end all embargoes,trade with everyone,unite the world with capitalism.Any interventionism humanitartian or Weaponised is wrong

[Seperates]

America is just another country... with it's flaws and good points. Is it the best? No. But is it the worst? Hardly.

[Republic of Liberty and Freedom]

America is just another country... with it's flaws and good points. Is it the best? No. But is it the worst? Hardly.

In terms of Foreign Policy???? Its up there with the worst..everything else your right

[Xanixi]

...Uh...

I'm not sure how that responds to what I said.

Essentially having people crying because you arent giving aid to some despot whos engineered a famine is worth the life of one kid whose been blown up by a drone.Leave everyone to sort out their own business,end all embargoes,trade with everyone,unite the world with capitalism.Any interventionism humanitartian or Weaponised is wrong

I'm sorry, what now? End embargoes? Trade with everyone? Capitalism?
How the hell did this jump from foreign policy regarding intervention to foreign polcy regarding economics?

[Republic of Liberty and Freedom]

Essentially having people crying because you arent giving aid to some despot whos engineered a famine is worth the life of one kid whose been blown up by a drone.Leave everyone to sort out their own business,end all embargoes,trade with everyone,unite the world with capitalism.Any interventionism humanitartian or Weaponised is wrong

I'm sorry, what now? End embargoes? Trade with everyone? Capitalism?
How the hell did this jump from foreign policy regarding intervention to foreign polcy regarding economics?

An embargo is the same as an intervention,destroying a countries econmy eg Irans cubs etc is a an act of War,How many million Iraqi childern died because of the US led embargo on Iraq?

[Seperates]

America is just another country... with it's flaws and good points. Is it the best? No. But is it the worst? Hardly.

In terms of Foreign Policy???? Its up there with the worst..everything else your right

In terms of forgein policy, America is doing what every other successful country in history has done. It's protecting it's investments. That being said, the immediate issue is that those investments span the entire globe, and we are spending more protecting those investments than we are making on said investments.

[Yorkopolis]

http://www.rawa.org/temp/runews/2012/09/10/syria-s-eerie-parallel-to-afghanistan-and-the-pro-imperialist-pseudo-left.html
Things like this^^^
http://www.irishexaminer.com/world/us-soldier-accused-over-afghan-rampage-named-187475.html
And this^^^^
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/07/28/world/meast/syria-libya-fighters/index.html
And this^^ are just a tiny examples of why there is a lot of Anti-American sentiment on the go.
If the US adopted a foreign policy reminiscent of say......Antarctica....or realistically Switzerland, the violence and animosity towards the US and its cizens would revert to petty jibes about obesity and such.
Spreading Democracy, Nation building, Monroe doctrine, spheres of influence, imperialism call it what you will.It doesnt make you any friends.

This is exactly the reason why I oppose the US, it can't, not even for once, keep its damn big nose out of someone else's soup eventually acting in their own interests instead of that of their people or that of the people in the Middle East. And you know, no matter who you elect in the US, be it Romney or Obama, ultimately they will continue their international mission to spread "democracy". What I find the worst hipocricy, is where the US first got Saddam Hussein in power in Iraq, even helping him and his people to get in power, and then effectively taking him down and out, purely for fun and causing 2 million deaths.

Like I said, if you can't tell the difference between recklessly invading a country and supporting a rebellion against tyranny, then you have the answer to why there's Anti-Americanism.

Invading a country ruled by a murderous tyrant if done so recklessly is still doing something positive for the world. We are better off without Saddam Hussein.

Funny how the US first helped Saddam Hussein to power, and then suddenly betrayed him and took him down and out in a bloody war. Way to go, US. Damn way to go.

[Priory Academy USSR]

An embargo is the same as an intervention,destroying a countries econmy eg Irans cubs etc is a an act of War,How many million Iraqi childern died because of the US led embargo on Iraq?

No it isn't because an intervention means using militray force inside another nation. It might have the same effect though, if said embargoer controlled most of the embargoees trade. Only a blocakde is an act of war, but simply refusing to buy and sell to a nation is their own choice.

[Republic of Liberty and Freedom]

An embargo is the same as an intervention,destroying a countries econmy eg Irans cubs etc is a an act of War,How many million Iraqi childern died because of the US led embargo on Iraq?

No it isn't because an intervention means using militray force inside another nation. It might have the same effect though, if said embargoer controlled most of the embargoees trade. Only a blocakde is an act of war, but simply refusing to buy and sell to a nation is their own choice.

So if i try and buy some iranian oil as an irishman what will happen? I would be arrested,the US strongarmed the EU and most of the UN into an embargo on Iran.It would be grand if the US took a moral stand and decided to not deal with countries on principle,but it doesnt,it forces everyone else not to deal with certain countries on pain of trade bans and fines.Look at standard chartered,and english bank fined for dealig with Iran

[Zaras]

I lean more towards Stoicism so base my morality on Virtue.

Letting people suffer isn't a virtue.

[Priory Academy USSR]

No it isn't because an intervention means using militray force inside another nation. It might have the same effect though, if said embargoer controlled most of the embargoees trade. Only a blocakde is an act of war, but simply refusing to buy and sell to a nation is their own choice.

So if i try and buy some iranian oil as an irishman what will happen? I would be arrested,the US strongarmed the EU and most of the UN into an embargo on Iran.It would be grand if the US took a moral stand and decided to not deal with countries on principle,but it doesnt,it forces everyone else not to deal with certain countries on pain of trade bans and fines.Look at standard chartered,and english bank fined for dealig with Iran

I never said the particular embargo was morally correct. I just said that it wasn't an intervention.

[Copenhagen Metropolis]

One of the things I have noticed on the NS forums is that anti-americanism seems to be very rampant. I have seen a lot of posters post things like "I hate America" and "Americans are crazy". And in addition to that I saw a poll on a thread about what people think the worst thing about America is and most people selected the option that the problem is the Americans. I don't understand why there is all of this America bashing here.

I think the potent mixture of ignorance and arrogance is the key.
Subjective unfounded statesments such as this one;

The United States is the greatest country there is.

and unreferenced or false statements such as these;

Most other free nations based their constitutions off ours

Not true.

if it wasn't for us then it is very likely that most or all of Europe and Asia would be under the control of Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, and Imperial Japan.

One-sided argument. If it wasn't for Britain or the Soviet Union, among others, it is very like that the US would be under the control of Nazy Germany, Fascist Italy, and Imperial Japan, no? Both Britain and the Soviet Union had a much larger influence on the outcome than the US did.

It was American humanitarian aid that helped put Europe back on it's feet after the war.

Helped, sure. Wasn't the reason though. And the US did it for selfish reasons - had the European economy went kaput, the US economy would have too.

We are also the ones that thwarted North Koreas attempt to conquer South Korea.

Not the ones - but one of those that thwarted North Koreas attempt to conquer South Korea. Taking the credit for something others did, or helped do, is probably a reason for the bashing as well.

We are the ones who led the free world to victory in the Cold War.

By doing... nothing?

When it comes to giving aid to other countries in need it is America that is the most generous.

Nope.

We give several times more humanitarian aid and money to poor nations than any other country.

Not per capita. Not by a long shot.

We have the third largest population

Congrats. What an achievement.

third largest land area

But we have bigger penises.

largest economy

Not per capita. You are out of top 10 by that measure. Denmark's (where I'm from) GDP/capita is about 25% higher than that of the US.

and the most powerful military

Primarily because you have ''the third largest population'' and the ''largest economy'' - but how's that something that benefits the population? Or anyone, for that matter? - besides being able to use it as an argument... If other countries' governments didn't care about its citizens, they could spend ridicules amounts of money on military as well. I for one choose universal healthcare, social safety net, free/paid education etc. over a large military. But maybe that's just me.

I admit that America does have it's flaws but as President William Clinton said "there is nothing wrong in America that can't be fixed with what is right in America".

its , not it's


So to answer your question,

Why is anti-americanism so rampant here?

Looky mirror.

[Oterro]

when they give me one good reason to support them and not hope their government collapses

the devil will be wiping the frost off his pitchfork

[Republic of Liberty and Freedom]

So if i try and buy some iranian oil as an irishman what will happen? I would be arrested,the US strongarmed the EU and most of the UN into an embargo on Iran.It would be grand if the US took a moral stand and decided to not deal with countries on principle,but it doesnt,it forces everyone else not to deal with certain countries on pain of trade bans and fines.Look at standard chartered,and english bank fined for dealig with Iran

I never said the particular embargo was morally correct. I just said that it wasn't an intervention.

Well you have a very narrow definition of what constitutes an intervention,If crippling a country economically and threatening to do the same to anyone who doesnt follow that policy isnt interventionism, i dont know what is.

[Bougheyia]

I don't care what anyone says, Americas a great place. Sure we've got a list of faults but we're still awesome. Good day sirs.

[Divair]

I don't care what anyone says, Americas a great place. Sure we've got a list of faults but we're still awesome. Good day sirs.

That's an opinion.

[The God-Realm]

America sucks.

I don't know why I emigrated here.

[Yankee Empire]

America sucks.

I don't know why I emigrated here.

Then get out.

[Bougheyia]

I don't care what anyone says, Americas a great place. Sure we've got a list of faults but we're still awesome. Good day sirs.

That's an opinion.

I know I just had to write it.

[The God-Realm]

America sucks.

I don't know why I emigrated here.

Then get out.

No because the nations I can afford to go to suck too.

[Oterro]

America sucks.

I don't know why I emigrated here.

Then get out.

Wow your objective is a nation populated by idiots.

[Yankee Empire]

I lean more towards Stoicism so base my morality on Virtue.

Letting people suffer isn't a virtue.

You're (probably) not understanding the variability i'm using the word "suffer" for.

It could be used akin to struggle.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

It's somehow a sad relief to realize that the rest of the world has people who are just as ignorant about America as Americans are alleged to be about the rest of the world.