Anti-Americanism on NationStates

[Yankee Empire]

Your talking about solving differances peacefully, how the hell can you do that if you simply dismiss and blow a gasket over any position you dislike?

You're assuming I blow a gasket. No, I'm just being sarcastic and swear a lot.

If that is true, then one should know that only extremely obiosu sarcasm works on the internet.

I do know that I can solve differences without breaking into your house and declaring that everything you own is mine, if that's what you're saying.

Yet again using a position I never advocated to make my position look bad...

Also I do think suffering (in varient uses of the word) is absoulutley necessary to accomplish anything worthwhile, or are you another one of those who use hedonism as your moral compass?

Suffering is suffering, and it should be minimized because it's bad.

Using your preconception as your conclusion again...

And I'm actually an ethical hedonist.

I suspected as much.

I lean more towards Stoicism so base my morality on Virtue.

[Verus Pondera]

Alcoholism and veneration of outlaws are obvious evidence of American influence on Australian culture.

Thus you have hinted on a brillant plan, blame it on America. Ned Kelly is a lie.

My grandad once pulled our legs and told us that we were related to Ned Kelly...

[Ifreann]

Only among people who judge Americans by one person on the internet.

People like that have already made up their minds they simply use the individuals as "proof".

I would expect so, yes.

[Ifreann]

Thus you have hinted on a brillant plan, blame it on America. Ned Kelly is a lie.

My grandad once pulled our legs and told us that we were related to Ned Kelly...

99% of Australians and 84% of New Zealanders are direct descendants of Ned Kelly. True science fact.

[Byzitus]

Well, nobody in the real world likes America, so why would nationstates be any different?

[Bougheyia]

It's like I say a lot. America is sort of the worlds bigs brother, we do lots for other nations but don't really get respect.

[Ifreann]

Well, nobody in the real world likes America, so why would nationstates be any different?

Do Americans not count?

[Farnhamia]

Well, nobody in the real world likes America, so why would nationstates be any different?

Do Americans not count?

We do but not very high. Damn you, failed public education system!

[Winland]

It's like I say a lot. America is sort of the worlds bigs brother, we do lots for other nations but don't really get respect.

We also like to beat up the brown kid and take his lunch money.

[Johz]

Do Americans not count?

We do but not very high. Damn you, failed public education system!

As my old conductor used to say, you only ever need to count up to four.

Come to think of it, he was probably an American...

[Choronzon]

They hate us for our freedoms.

[Verus Pondera]

My grandad once pulled our legs and told us that we were related to Ned Kelly...

99% of Australians and 84% of New Zealanders are direct descendants of Ned Kelly. True science fact.

That's interesting... I never would have guessed! Though, I probably should have never searched into my Grandad's claim to begin with being that my Nana immigrated to Canada (from Venezuela (and Tralee a few years prior) in 1957, and that in tracing my ancestry beforehand I couldn't recall ever coming accross a relative with the surname Kelly... He got us good...

[Ierm]

Bawwwwwwwwwwwww Anti-Americanism

Stop invading people's nations, attempting to overthrow governments, flooding our markets with sub-par produce and treating the rest of the world like they are second class citizens.

[Kriss]

American here, go f*** yourselves, have a nice day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGuhZvO1DKg

[Choronzon]

Bawwwwwwwwwwwww Anti-Americanism

Stop invading people's nations, attempting to overthrow governments, flooding our markets with sub-par produce and treating the rest of the world like they are second class citizens.

Then start solving your problems by yourselves, and stop asking us to use our military so the rest of you don't have to.

[Harammabad]

On an ideological level, the success of the American system led to the rise of Democracy throughout the world and the adoption of Federal Republics in nations like Austria, Germany, Brazil, Iraq, Russia, India, and Switzerland.

Right...

Austria, I'll grant you that one. Same with germany. Brazil? - All right, that one too.

Iraq? No, because the borders of Iraq are not suited for federalism. There is one border that runs bang down the middle of Kurdistan (a country not shown on the map, but which ethnically and culturally and linguistically exists). And it is debatable how much federalism will help against the sectarian violence that has plagued Iraq ever since it was officially 'liberated'.

Russia? Give me a break - the federalism there has its roots in the 1936 Communist constitution.
No American inspiration there.

India? - again giving yourself way too much credit. Like: India was administered by the British, who also lay the foundation for a certain 13 American states... Common ancestry yes, inspiration not really.

Switzerland? - the republic was declared at the end of the Middle Ages. How on earth does the USA claim credit for that?

[Jormengand]

One of the things I have noticed on the NS forums is that anti-americanism seems to be very rampant. I have seen a lot of posters post things like "I hate America" and "Americans are crazy".

They're called trolls. Deal with them.

And in addition to that I saw a poll on a thread about what people think the worst thing about America is and most people selected the option that the problem is the Americans.

I can see their point. Certain Americans have been known to do inordinately racist, sexist and homophobic things.

I don't understand why there is all of this America bashing here. The United States is the greatest country there is.

Are you trying to be hypocritical?

Most other free nations based their constitutions off ours

Balls

If it wasn't for us then it is very likely that most or all of Europe and Asia would be under the control of Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, and Imperial Japan.

May I point out that you were late for BOTH world wars?

It was American humanitarian aid that helped put Europe back on it's feet after the war.

And we were the ones who actually deigned to fight the damn thing.

We are also the ones that thwarted North Koreas attempt to conquer South Korea. We are the ones who led the free world to victory in the Cold War.

I didn't do history GCSE, but if memory serves those are another two wars where you turned up late and claimed to have won the war single-handedly.

When it comes to giving aid to other countries in need it is America that is the most generous. We give several times more humanitarian aid and money to poor nations than any other country.

You have several times as many people as most other countries.

We have the third largest population

Would you like to continue making my point for me?

third largest land area, largest economy, and the most powerful military.

Land area is luck, economy is based on this, and nukes>army.

I admit that America does have it's flaws but as President William Clinton said "there is nothing wrong in America that can't be fixed with what is right in America."

Balls.

Every country has it's flaws and home countries of these anti-americans atre surely no exception. So tell me this. Why is anti-americanism so rampant here?

It is not.

[Movalia]

"We had to destroy the village to save it."
Please, please tell me that you're joking and that's not your actual mentality. Please.

That's not anybodies mentality you don't kill people to save them you kill them to save other people. "Kill the bad guys" is a surprisingly versatile solution.

Yeah, innocent civilians being the bad guys. I get it. Killing civilians to save other civilians is a surprisingly versatile solution.

[Farnhamia]

On an ideological level, the success of the American system led to the rise of Democracy throughout the world and the adoption of Federal Republics in nations like Austria, Germany, Brazil, Iraq, Russia, India, and Switzerland.

Right...

Austria, I'll grant you that one. Same with germany. Brazil? - All right, that one too.

Iraq? No, because the borders of Iraq are not suited for federalism. There is one border that runs bang down the middle of Kurdistan (a country not shown on the map, but which ethnically and culturally and linguistically exists). And it is debatable how much federalism will help against the sectarian violence that has plagued Iraq ever since it was officially 'liberated'.

Russia? Give me a break - the federalism there has its roots in the 1936 Communist constitution.
No American inspiration there.

India? - again giving yourself way too much credit. Like: India was administered by the British, who also lay the foundation for a certain 13 American states... Common ancestry yes, inspiration not really.

Switzerland? - the republic was declared at the end of the Middle Ages. How on earth does the USA claim credit for that?

We can claim anything we want, haven't you been paying attention?

[Itanica]

One of the things I have noticed on the NS forums is that anti-americanism seems to be very rampant. I have seen a lot of posters post things like "I hate America" and "Americans are crazy". And in addition to that I saw a poll on a thread about what people think the worst thing about America is and most people selected the option that the problem is the Americans. I don't understand why there is all of this America bashing here. The United States is the greatest country there is. Most other free nations based their constitutions off ours, if it wasn't for us then it is very likely that most or all of Europe and Asia would be under the control of Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, and Imperial Japan. It was American humanitarian aid that helped put Europe back on it's feet after the war. We are also the ones that thwarted North Koreas attempt to conquer South Korea. We are the ones who led the free world to victory in the Cold War. When it comes to giving aid to other countries in need it is America that is the most generous. We give several times more humanitarian aid and money to poor nations than any other country. We have the third largest population, third largest land area, largest economy, and the most powerful military. I admit that America does have it's flaws but as President William Clinton said "there is nothing wrong in America that can't be fixed with what is right in America". Every country has it's flaws and home countries of these anti-americans atre surely no exception. So tell me this. Why is anti-americanism so rampant here?

Most other free nations wrote their constitutions before you were even a country. Also, your constitution is largely based off of the laws of other countries. And I laughed so hard when you said Europe would be under control of Germany and Italy if not for the USA. The USSR would have eventually pushed them back, with or without US support. The British navy and airforce were definitely strong enough to keep the Germans at bay, and we did successfully launch many raids on Northern France without US help. We did not need the USA, you guys just made the war shorter by a couple of years.

You didn't stop North Korea from conquering South Korea - Instead, you created that border in the first place. You are the CAUSE of the conflicts in that area, because you couldn't leave the USSR's interests alone. You had to wave your dick all over Asia.

The EU is by far the largest aid contributor in the world, so you argument about humanitarian aid is bad.

Land area doesn't mean much, and your economy is large - But falling. You are falling into debt at a massive rate.

Finally, several other countries could raise a military as powerful as yours - But they are not as warmongering and don't feel the need to spend all their money on the military, instead spending it on important things like education and healthcare (two departments the US is rather lacking in)

Your post sums up why there is a lot of "Anti-Americanism". I mean holy shit, you go around waving your dicks shouting "AMERICA NUMBER ONE AMERICA THE GREATEST, YEAH USA USA USA USA" and wonder why people hate you?

[Kriss]

And in addition to that I saw a poll on a thread about what people think the worst thing about America is and most people selected the option that the problem is the Americans.

I can see their point. Certain Americans have been known to do inordinately racist, sexist and homophobic things.

Whereas your generalization of 300 million people is enlightened and not at all racist.

I don't understand why there is all of this America bashing here. The United States is the greatest country there is.

Are you trying to be hypocritical?

Every citizen of a country worth a damn says this about their nation, take a bath hippie.

Most other free nations based their constitutions off ours

Balls

Derp?

If it wasn't for us then it is very likely that most or all of Europe and Asia would be under the control of Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, and Imperial Japan.

May I point out that you were late for BOTH world wars?

Wasn't our problem to begin with, wasted a lot of good lives on saving filthy tree humpers IMO, and we pretty much did conquer Japan on our lonesome.

It was American humanitarian aid that helped put Europe back on it's feet after the war.

And we were the ones who actually deigned to fight the damn thing.

You have a point of some kind here.. you were fighting your own war, that you inflicted upon yourselves so..?

We are also the ones that thwarted North Koreas attempt to conquer South Korea. We are the ones who led the free world to victory in the Cold War.

I didn't do history GCSE, but if memory serves those are another two wars where you turned up late and claimed to have won the war single-handedly.

Name them, WWI and WWII were pretty much a European mistake if "memory serves" like you were there, you non native ball sucker.

When it comes to giving aid to other countries in need it is America that is the most generous. We give several times more humanitarian aid and money to poor nations than any other country.

You have several times as many people as most other countries.

And this sort of logic is why there is pretty much always going to be a healthy movement in the US to tell the UN to get stuffed.

We have the third largest population

Would you like to continue making my point for me?

Given that you are responding to him this seems like you may suffer from terminal brain damage, you are looking at his statement, constructing a reply & acting as if this was an actual conversation taking place live in which he could've given a more appropriate answer.

third largest land area, largest economy, and the most powerful military.

Land area is luck, economy is based on this, and nukes>army.

How is a land area luck, your ability to breathe is luck as I am starting to think you may in fact be some sort of rock that has gained self awareness from your level of intelligence per this post.

I admit that America does have it's flaws but as President William Clinton said "there is nothing wrong in America that can't be fixed with what is right in America."

Balls.

Derp.

Every country has it's flaws and home countries of these anti-americans atre surely no exception. So tell me this. Why is anti-americanism so rampant here?

It is not.[/quote]

Yeah, it is.

[Uirokeilendh]

You know you're behind when Somalia has adopted the metric system.

Somalia has a government?

Yes, the UN set one up for them...unfortunately it doesn't have full control.

[Valhallion]

From one American to the rest, you honestly think we are the best?

Freedom? out of 270nation in the world there are 180 that have freedom

we rank 7th in literacy, 27th in math, 22nd in science, 49th in life expectancy, 178th in infant mortality rate, 3rd in median household income, 4th in labor force and in exports.

we only lead the world in number of citizens in the prison system per capita, number of adult who believe angels are real, and defense spending where we spend more than the next 26 countries combined and 25 of those are allies.

Your freedoms are vanishing each year, elections are a shame, and American as a whole are more interested in snookie than legislation that makes free speech now illegal when the secret service say so, carrying a minimum sentence of 5 years. Americans as a whole are part of the worst generation this country ever had

So when americans say America is the greatest nation in the world, I as an American have no fucking idea what they are talking about!

As a American i will say this, America is not great, and i am sadden to say I am ashamed of my country and i am ashamed of many of my country men.

And any other americans who wish to hate on me for my statement, stop acting butt hurt and stop buying into the propaganda.

[Itanica]

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Someone doesn't agree with American nationalism so they're a dirty hippy? Oh man, I love where this is going already. Grow up.

Also I believe you said you joined WWII to help a bunch of tree humpers? Yeah, Europe was full of peace and loving people in the first half of the 20thC, peace and love man. Holy shit - I can't stop laughing at that statement.

[Kriss]

From one American to the rest, you honestly think we are the best?

Freedom? out of 270nation in the world there are 180 that have freedom

we rank 7th in literacy, 27th in math, 22nd in science, 49th in life expectancy, 178th in infant mortality rate, 3rd in median household income, 4th in labor force and in exports.

we only lead the world in number of citizens in the prison system per capita, number of adult who believe angels are real, and defense spending where we spend more than the next 26 countries combined and 25 of those are allies.

Your freedoms are vanishing each year, elections are a shame, and American as a whole are more interested in snookie than legislation that makes free speech now illegal when the secret service say so, carrying a minimum sentence of 5 years. Americans as a whole are part of the worst generation this country ever had

So when americans say America is the greatest nation in the world, I as an American have no fucking idea what they are talking about!

As a American i will say this, America is not great, and i am sadden to say I am ashamed of my country and i am ashamed of many of my country men.

And any other americans who wish to hate on me for my statement, stop acting butt hurt and stop buying into the propaganda.

RAWN PAWL in 2012! <-- Sarcasm, for the non natives.