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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:18 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:We still do these threads?

Shit.


Last time I was around NSG, it was on the old forums, and threads like this were popping up constantly. So, yeah, it's kind of a regular thing from what I can tell.

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Postby Martean » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:19 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:We still do these threads?

Shit.


If you go back 2-3 pages youll see we werent talking exactly about anti-americanism :lol:
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Postby Xanixi » Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:31 am

Martean wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:We still do these threads?

Shit.


If you go back 2-3 pages youll see we werent talking exactly about anti-americanism :lol:


An example of this would be the fact that we were arguing about the Metric System being more logical than the Imperial System a while back.
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Postby Martean » Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:21 pm

Xanixi wrote:
Martean wrote:
If you go back 2-3 pages youll see we werent talking exactly about anti-americanism :lol:


An example of this would be the fact that we were arguing about the Metric System being more logical than the Imperial System a while back.


or when we talked about second-hand experiences and ended up talking about the dictatorship in romania.
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Postby Xanixi » Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:25 pm

Martean wrote:
Xanixi wrote:
An example of this would be the fact that we were arguing about the Metric System being more logical than the Imperial System a while back.


or when we talked about second-hand experiences and ended up talking about the dictatorship in romania.


See, this thread is so diverse in its conversations that I completely missed that one.
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Postby Zaras » Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:33 pm

Xanixi wrote:
Martean wrote:
or when we talked about second-hand experiences and ended up talking about the dictatorship in romania.


See, this thread is so diverse in its conversations that I completely missed that one.


Wasn't really much to it... wasn't much of a conversation. More like two people trying to prove somebody else wrong, and said somebody else trying to avoid being proved wrong.
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Postby Xanixi » Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:35 pm

Zaras wrote:
Xanixi wrote:
See, this thread is so diverse in its conversations that I completely missed that one.


Wasn't really much to it... wasn't much of a conversation. More like two people trying to prove somebody else wrong, and said somebody else trying to avoid being proved wrong.


Wait, was the dictatorship talk of Romania or Saudi Arabia?
Because I know we were talking about some monarchistic totalitarian dictatorship and how women are mistreated and have withheld rights.
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Postby Greater Somalia » Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:46 pm

Yet another American exceptionalism rhetoric.

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Postby Martean » Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:54 pm

Xanixi wrote:
Zaras wrote:
Wasn't really much to it... wasn't much of a conversation. More like two people trying to prove somebody else wrong, and said somebody else trying to avoid being proved wrong.


Wait, was the dictatorship talk of Romania or Saudi Arabia?
Because I know we were talking about some monarchistic totalitarian dictatorship and how women are mistreated and have withheld rights.

it was dictatorships in general, but also we were arguing that second-hand experiences were useful or not. me and Zaras said they were and the other was saying that didnt :(
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Postby The UK in Exile » Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:55 pm

All of the good names are taken wrote:One of the things I have noticed on the NS forums is that anti-americanism seems to be very rampant. I have seen a lot of posters post things like "I hate America" and "Americans are crazy". And in addition to that I saw a poll on a thread about what people think the worst thing about America is and most people selected the option that the problem is the Americans. I don't understand why there is all of this America bashing here. The United States is the greatest country there is. Most other free nations based their constitutions off ours, if it wasn't for us then it is very likely that most or all of Europe and Asia would be under the control of Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, and Imperial Japan. It was American humanitarian aid that helped put Europe back on it's feet after the war. We are also the ones that thwarted North Koreas attempt to conquer South Korea. We are the ones who led the free world to victory in the Cold War. When it comes to giving aid to other countries in need it is America that is the most generous. We give several times more humanitarian aid and money to poor nations than any other country. We have the third largest population, third largest land area, largest economy, and the most powerful military. I admit that America does have it's flaws but as President William Clinton said "there is nothing wrong in America that can't be fixed with what is right in America". Every country has it's flaws and home countries of these anti-americans atre surely no exception. So tell me this. Why is anti-americanism so rampant here?


most likely its been covered but almost no nations base their constitutions off of the US one. period.
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Postby Zaras » Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:57 pm

The UK in Exile wrote:
All of the good names are taken wrote:One of the things I have noticed on the NS forums is that anti-americanism seems to be very rampant. I have seen a lot of posters post things like "I hate America" and "Americans are crazy". And in addition to that I saw a poll on a thread about what people think the worst thing about America is and most people selected the option that the problem is the Americans. I don't understand why there is all of this America bashing here. The United States is the greatest country there is. Most other free nations based their constitutions off ours, if it wasn't for us then it is very likely that most or all of Europe and Asia would be under the control of Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, and Imperial Japan. It was American humanitarian aid that helped put Europe back on it's feet after the war. We are also the ones that thwarted North Koreas attempt to conquer South Korea. We are the ones who led the free world to victory in the Cold War. When it comes to giving aid to other countries in need it is America that is the most generous. We give several times more humanitarian aid and money to poor nations than any other country. We have the third largest population, third largest land area, largest economy, and the most powerful military. I admit that America does have it's flaws but as President William Clinton said "there is nothing wrong in America that can't be fixed with what is right in America". Every country has it's flaws and home countries of these anti-americans atre surely no exception. So tell me this. Why is anti-americanism so rampant here?


most likely its been covered but almost no nations base their constitutions off of the US one. period.


I can back that up personally: the UK's constitution predates the USA's one, and Romania blatantly stole its from France.
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Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.

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Postby Martean » Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:59 pm

Zaras wrote:
The UK in Exile wrote:
most likely its been covered but almost no nations base their constitutions off of the US one. period.


I can back that up personally: the UK's constitution predates the USA's one, and Romania blatantly stole its from France.


spanish constitucion is unique... uniquilly stupid :p
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Postby Xanixi » Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:59 pm

Martean wrote:
Xanixi wrote:
Wait, was the dictatorship talk of Romania or Saudi Arabia?
Because I know we were talking about some monarchistic totalitarian dictatorship and how women are mistreated and have withheld rights.

it was dictatorships in general, but also we were arguing that second-hand experiences were useful or not. me and Zaras said they were and the other was saying that didnt :(


Hm...
So...

Halfway around the world from the supposed topic of discussion. That's actually pretty marvellous.

The UK in Exile wrote:
All of the good names are taken wrote:One of the things I have noticed on the NS forums is that anti-americanism seems to be very rampant. I have seen a lot of posters post things like "I hate America" and "Americans are crazy". And in addition to that I saw a poll on a thread about what people think the worst thing about America is and most people selected the option that the problem is the Americans. I don't understand why there is all of this America bashing here. The United States is the greatest country there is. Most other free nations based their constitutions off ours, if it wasn't for us then it is very likely that most or all of Europe and Asia would be under the control of Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, and Imperial Japan. It was American humanitarian aid that helped put Europe back on it's feet after the war. We are also the ones that thwarted North Koreas attempt to conquer South Korea. We are the ones who led the free world to victory in the Cold War. When it comes to giving aid to other countries in need it is America that is the most generous. We give several times more humanitarian aid and money to poor nations than any other country. We have the third largest population, third largest land area, largest economy, and the most powerful military. I admit that America does have it's flaws but as President William Clinton said "there is nothing wrong in America that can't be fixed with what is right in America". Every country has it's flaws and home countries of these anti-americans atre surely no exception. So tell me this. Why is anti-americanism so rampant here?


most likely its been covered but almost no nations base their constitutions off of the US one. period.


I don't really know where the claim they did came from. I haven't seen any sources (reliable or no) supporting it, so as of now I don't really have any trust in such a claim.
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Postby Orcoa » Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:03 pm

Haters gonna Hate I say.....I'm kidding of course. :lol:

If you want to go on and criticize my homeland, go ahead and do so. It's your right to do so and why should I try to stop you? There are things that I don't like about what the USA does but...really I still love this place and I want to change it for the better :)

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Postby Martean » Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:04 pm

Orcoa wrote:Haters gonna Hate I say.....I'm kidding of course. :lol:

If you want to go on and criticize my homeland, go ahead and do so. It's your right to do so and why should I try to stop you? There are things that I don't like about what the USA does but...really I still love this place and I want to change it for the better :)


1)you are too patriotic :lol:
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Postby Orcoa » Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:07 pm

Martean wrote:
Orcoa wrote:Haters gonna Hate I say.....I'm kidding of course. :lol:

If you want to go on and criticize my homeland, go ahead and do so. It's your right to do so and why should I try to stop you? There are things that I don't like about what the USA does but...really I still love this place and I want to change it for the better :)


1)you are too patriotic :lol:

Maybe, I do love my nation but at lest I can see what is wrong with it and have a desire to change that.
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Postby Xanixi » Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:10 pm

Orcoa wrote:
Martean wrote:1)you are too patriotic :lol:

Maybe, I do love my nation but at lest I can see what is wrong with it and have a desire to change that.


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Postby Orcoa » Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:14 pm

Xanixi wrote:
Orcoa wrote:Maybe, I do love my nation but at lest I can see what is wrong with it and have a desire to change that.


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(High Fives Back)

Thanks Bro :p
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Postby Turan Federasyonu » Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:16 pm

Not anti-americanism, there is anti-colonialism and anti-"world gendermerism"

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Postby Xanixi » Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:17 pm

Orcoa wrote:
Xanixi wrote:
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(High Fives Back)

Thanks Bro :p


No problem, mate. It's (for me) a rarity to find a person who recognises their nation has disabilities.
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| Pop.: 508,191,116 | Area: 24.670.330 km2 | Demonym: Thedosian/Republic/Imperial |
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Dr. Carl Sagan wrote:“They say astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.”
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Postby Xanixi » Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:19 pm

Turan Federasyonu wrote:Not anti-americanism, there is anti-colonialism and anti-"world gendermerism"


Edit:

It'd be easier if you just used 'sexism', mate.

Edit-2: I am assuming, of course, that this 'gendermerism' is attempting to refer to 'genderism' which is the 'discrimination of based on gender, especially women'.
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| Pop.: 508,191,116 | Area: 24.670.330 km2 | Demonym: Thedosian/Republic/Imperial |
| Military: 5,482,193 | GDP: US$32,842,135,458,524.96 | Lifespan: ~650 y/o |
Dr. Carl Sagan wrote:“They say astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.”
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Postby Tehraan » Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:25 pm

Post made a day after the nation was made. A subject that often leads to a hot headed argument between two opinionated groups. Some claims that are an issue of dispute between said groups.

I think that I'm sensing a troll here.

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Postby Draculesti Romania » Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:26 pm

I am a member of the Great Satan. Give me a skull-bedazzled banner. :twisted:

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Postby Turan Federasyonu » Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:28 pm

Xanixi wrote:
Turan Federasyonu wrote:Not anti-americanism, there is anti-colonialism and anti-"world gendermerism"


Edit:

It'd be easier if you just used 'sexism', mate.

Edit-2: I am assuming, of course, that this 'gendermerism' is attempting to refer to 'genderism' which is the 'discrimination of based on gender, especially women'.

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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:29 pm

Turan Federasyonu wrote:
Xanixi wrote:
Edit:

It'd be easier if you just used 'sexism', mate.

Edit-2: I am assuming, of course, that this 'gendermerism' is attempting to refer to 'genderism' which is the 'discrimination of based on gender, especially women'.

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Gendarme's the word you're looking for.

"World policeman", in other words.
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