Anti-Americanism on NationStates

[Tagmatium]

But many a working men are elitist.

Anyone who thinks that being poor is a sign of stupidity or laziness is in my opinion an elitist fool.

You mean it isn't?

[Imperium Nova Roma]

It is The One Nation, Under God.

Self explanatory.

[The Nuclear Fist]

It is The One Nation, Under God.

Self explanatory.

And has been ever since 1953.

Also, that seems to be quite off topic.

[The Tiger Kingdom]

It is The One Nation, Under God.

Self explanatory.

And has been ever since 1953.

Also, that seems to be quite off topic.

That's also completely not what that part of the Pledge even means, but whatever.
And I don't even say the Under god part.

[Tagmatium]

And has been ever since 1953.

Also, that seems to be quite off topic.

That's also completely not what that part of the Pledge even means, but whatever.
And I don't even say the Under god part.

Seems weird to take a pledge to my British eyes.

[Lessnt]

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Its not THE one nation.
Its one nation.
Its very unexceptional.

[The Nuclear Fist]

That's also completely not what that part of the Pledge even means, but whatever.
And I don't even say the Under god part.

Seems weird to take a pledge to my British eyes.

And to my Romanian eyes.

[The Tiger Kingdom]

That's also completely not what that part of the Pledge even means, but whatever.
And I don't even say the Under god part.

Seems weird to take a pledge to my British eyes.

Funny thing is, there's absolutely no real history or prestige to the pledge. It was invented by the Boy Scouts in 1920 or so.
It's not like Jefferson got done finishing the Declaration and decided to write a loyalty pledge just to pass the time. It's totally mundane.

[Lessnt]

Seems weird to take a pledge to my British eyes.

And to my Romanian eyes.

When your born free without allegiance you pledge yourself to something.
I believe that is the concept.

[The Nuclear Fist]

And to my Romanian eyes.

When your born free without allegiance you pledge yourself to something.
I believe that is the concept.

It shouldn't be a requirement, or even encouraged.

[Lessnt]

Seems weird to take a pledge to my British eyes.

Funny thing is, there's absolutely no real history or prestige to the pledge. It was invented by the Boy Scouts in 1920 or so.
It's not like Jefferson got done finishing the Declaration and decided to write a loyalty pledge just to pass the time. It's totally mundane.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance
been a pledge since 1892 according to wiki.

[Lessnt]

When your born free without allegiance you pledge yourself to something.
I believe that is the concept.

It shouldn't be a requirement, or even encouraged.

What do you mean?

[Tagmatium]

And to my Romanian eyes.

When your born free without allegiance you pledge yourself to something.
I believe that is the concept.

Because us foreigners aren't born free, right?

We suffer and struggle under the heavy hand of despotism and tyranny.

Pull one of the other ones, it's got bells on.

[Lessnt]

When your born free without allegiance you pledge yourself to something.
I believe that is the concept.

Because us foreigners aren't born free, right?

We suffer and struggle under the heavy hand of despotism and tyranny.

Pull one of the other ones, it's got bells on.

Does your constitution or laws say you are free?

[The Tiger Kingdom]

Funny thing is, there's absolutely no real history or prestige to the pledge. It was invented by the Boy Scouts in 1920 or so.
It's not like Jefferson got done finishing the Declaration and decided to write a loyalty pledge just to pass the time. It's totally mundane.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance
been a pledge since 1892 according to wiki.

I must've gotten the date mixed up with the 1923 modifications.

[Tagmatium]

Because us foreigners aren't born free, right?

We suffer and struggle under the heavy hand of despotism and tyranny.

Pull one of the other ones, it's got bells on.

Does your constitution or laws say you are free?

I don't know, I'm no lawyer nor am I an expert on the constitution.

However, perhaps more conspicuously, I have never had to give a pledge to my nation nor would it be expected of me unless I were to join the armed forces.

[Hittanryan]

It is The One Nation, Under God.

Self explanatory.

Really, you couldn't even get the pledge of allegiance right? Oh, and the "under god" part was only added in 1953 to "stick it to the commies."

[Imperium Nova Roma]

It is The One Nation, Under God.

Self explanatory.

And has been ever since 1953.

Also, that seems to be quite off topic.

God is never off topic when The United States of America is being discussed. Just as Jupiter is always relevant to Rome.

[The Nuclear Fist]

God is never off topic when The United States of America is being discussed. Just as Jupiter is always relevant to Rome.

The US isn't a theocracy nor was it founded by a deity, so yes, it is off topic.

[Farnhamia]

It is The One Nation, Under God.

Self explanatory.

Really, you couldn't even get the pledge of allegiance right? Oh, and the "under god" part was only added in 1953 to "stick it to the commies."

1954

[Lessnt]

Does your constitution or laws say you are free?

I don't know, I'm no lawyer nor am I an expert on the constitution.

However, perhaps more conspicuously, I have never had to give a pledge to my nation nor would it be expected of me unless I were to join the armed forces.

Legally in the USA everyone is part of the militia.
Simply by living here.

[Hittanryan]

Really, you couldn't even get the pledge of allegiance right? Oh, and the "under god" part was only added in 1953 to "stick it to the commies."

1954

Fuck.

[Imperium Nova Roma]

God is never off topic when The United States of America is being discussed. Just as Jupiter is always relevant to Rome.

The US isn't a theocracy nor was it founded by a deity, so yes, it is off topic.

I'm afraid not.

[Genivaria]

I don't know, I'm no lawyer nor am I an expert on the constitution.

However, perhaps more conspicuously, I have never had to give a pledge to my nation nor would it be expected of me unless I were to join the armed forces.

Legally in the USA everyone is part of the militia.
Simply by living here.

You have a very flawed understanding of the constitution.

[The Nuclear Fist]

The US isn't a theocracy nor was it founded by a deity, so yes, it is off topic.

I'm afraid not.

Then by all means, justify talking about god in a thread about being Anti-American.