C.S. Lewis's Irrefutable Proof of Christianity (Or God)

[Free Soviets]

this guy, C.S. Lewis

wow, i'd totally forgotten just how awful a philosopher lewis was when he tried. thanks for the reminder.

[Mondrova]

I see, it all makes sense now! Wait. Does that mean The Chronicles of Narnia is the second bible?

Aslan died for our sins, man.
As if the symbolism there wasn't heavy-handed ENOUGH...

Well fuck me, I've been doing this religion thing all wrong. I'ma go buy a stuffed lion to worship ASAP.

[Condunum]

Guys, while the argument about blasphemy is very clever, I never said CS Lewis is infallible. I called the argument he makes irrefutable, since Christianity is true. I KNOW it is true because I can see how God has affected my life in so many ways, plus the fact that the Bible has consistent values throughout. But I'm trying to find a medium, possibly CS Lewis, through which to convince you guys.

But you cannot know Christianity to be true. That much is impossible. Not that you'll ever listen to any of us, though.

[Wisconsin9]

Guys, while the argument about blasphemy is very clever, I never said CS Lewis is infallible. I called the argument he makes irrefutable, since Christianity is true. I KNOW it is true because I can see how God has affected my life in so many ways, plus the fact that the Bible has consistent values throughout. But I'm trying to find a medium, possibly CS Lewis, through which to convince you guys.

Try replicable facts.

[The Tiger Kingdom]

Aslan died for our sins, man.
As if the symbolism there wasn't heavy-handed ENOUGH...

Well fuck me, I've been doing this religion thing all wrong. I'ma go buy a stuffed lion to worship ASAP.

Cute, cuddly, AND the only sure way to eternal paradise!

[Silent Majority]

I called the argument he makes irrefutable, since Christianity is true.

I think you're doing it backwards. You don't form a position and then try to prove it, you look at evidence and then draw conclusions from it.

[Death Metal]

I KNOW it is true because I can see how God has affected my life in so many ways, plus the fact that the Bible has consistent values throughout.

Christianity wanted me to kill myself.

[Ifreann]

Guys, while the argument about blasphemy is very clever, I never said CS Lewis is infallible. I called the argument he makes irrefutable, since Christianity is true.

A fallacy in and of itself. Even if Christianity is true, Lewis' arguments in favour of Christianity are not necessarily irrefutable.

I KNOW it is true because I can see how God has affected my life in so many ways,

You're probably wrong, though.

plus the fact that the Bible has consistent values throughout.

So does the Lord of the Rings.

But I'm trying to find a medium, possibly CS Lewis, through which to convince you guys.

Do keep trying, it's quite entertaining.

[Avenio]

since Christianity is true.

Uh-huh. Riiight.

I KNOW it is true because I can see how God has affected my life in so many ways,

And what happens when you run into people like me, who have never had a religious experience in their entire lives?

plus the fact that the Bible has consistent values throughout.

Yes, I'll give the Bible credit for being consistent, for the most part. It does stick to the Bronze Age moralism of an obscure Canaanite tribe quite constantly.

But I'm trying to find a medium, possibly CS Lewis, through which to convince you guys.

Believe me, if there's any way to convince the atheist hordes of NSG of the truth of your beliefs, it's not through the frilly, insubstantial musings of a dead Englishman.

[Norstal]

Gen Urubochi's Irrefutable Proof of Madokaism (or Madoka Kaname's Existence).

1. ALL MAGICAL GIRLS ARE CUTE.

Seriously, have you ever seen an ugly magical girl? No. No you haven't. And because Madoka is cute, she exists.

2. PHYSICS, HOW THE FUCK DOES IT WORK?

Madoka saved us all from planet-destroying witches by rewriting the physical laws of the universe. You say that there were no witches in the first place. But you'd be wrong. How else would the present world be free of witches if our universe was not rewritten by Madoka?

Kill witches, get bitches.

3. PHYSICS, HOW THE FUCK DOES IT WORK? PART DEUX

Everything must not be an accident. Why? I mean, how else could it be? If you get into a car accident, everything you do after that is an accident. Logic. It just works. I think.

4. ACCEPT HOMURA-CHAN AS YOUR SAVIOR

You cannot believe Madoka exists without Homu-Homu existing. Or something. Ok, I guess you can accept Madoka without Homu-Homu, but she will be sad.

5. MADOKA PROTECTS

Pretty much what the title says.

[Atollus]

Guys, while the argument about blasphemy is very clever, I never said CS Lewis is infallible. I called the argument he makes irrefutable, since Christianity is true. I KNOW it is true because I can see how God has affected my life in so many ways, plus the fact that the Bible has consistent values throughout. But I'm trying to find a medium, possibly CS Lewis, through which to convince you guys.

Yes...and I happen to KNOW that your God is nothing more than a misanthropic, and psychotic fairy tail villain with delusions of omnipotence. We can't both be right you know. Of course we could easily both be wrong.

[The Tiger Kingdom]

Guys, while the argument about blasphemy is very clever, I never said CS Lewis is infallible. I called the argument he makes irrefutable, since Christianity is true. I KNOW it is true because I can see how God has affected my life in so many ways, plus the fact that the Bible has consistent values throughout. But I'm trying to find a medium, possibly CS Lewis, through which to convince you guys.

But you cannot know Christianity to be true. That much is impossible. Not that you'll ever listen to any of us, though.

Exactly. Isn't the whole point of Christianity faith - IE stuff that can't be proven, but that you FEEL is right?
Trying to prove Christianity through such thin and pseudo-scientific/philosophical ways isn't only ineffective, it actually cheapens what you're trying to teach.
I recall this same argument was used a few threads ago, and I don't think you responded to it, so I don't anticipate much change.

[Risottia]

Guys, while the argument about blasphemy is very clever, I never said CS Lewis is infallible. I called the argument he makes irrefutable, since Christianity is true. I KNOW it is true because I can see how God has affected my life in so many ways, plus the fact that the Bible has consistent values throughout. But I'm trying to find a medium, possibly CS Lewis, through which to convince you guys.

So you say:
A is not necessary for me to know B to be true.
But A cannot be refuted. (Although it does NOT prove B).
So you HAVE TO accept A which means you'll have to accept B.

I'm going to be and I'll dream of Kant, Russell and all the gang having a hearty laugh at you, Lewis and your "arguments".

[LogiChristianity]

Guys, while the argument about blasphemy is very clever, I never said CS Lewis is infallible. I called the argument he makes irrefutable, since Christianity is true. I KNOW it is true because I can see how God has affected my life in so many ways, plus the fact that the Bible has consistent values throughout. But I'm trying to find a medium, possibly CS Lewis, through which to convince you guys.

Try replicable facts.

FACT: We can't trust our thoughts if they are randomly created by "biochemistry" and "science."

FACT: The Bible has messages and values that appear in different books, though they are so similar. Thus, God must have had an influence.

FACT: All around you, you can see how God is guiding everyone's life.

[Runfin]

Guys, while the argument about blasphemy is very clever, I never said CS Lewis is infallible. I called the argument he makes irrefutable, since Christianity is true. I KNOW it is true because I can see how God has affected my life in so many ways, plus the fact that the Bible has consistent values throughout. But I'm trying to find a medium, possibly CS Lewis, through which to convince you guys.

You mean all the stuff that you agree with, the stuff you don't is metaphorical, right?

[Norstal]

I KNOW it is true because I can see how God has affected my life in so many ways, plus the fact that the Bible has consistent values throughout.

Christianity wanted me to kill myself.

Christianity killed Jesus. Think about it.

[LogiChristianity]

But you cannot know Christianity to be true. That much is impossible. Not that you'll ever listen to any of us, though.

Exactly. Isn't the whole point of Christianity faith - IE stuff that can't be proven, but that you FEEL is right?
Trying to prove Christianity through such thin and pseudo-scientific/philosophical ways isn't only ineffective, it actually cheapens what you're trying to teach.
I recall this same argument was used a few threads ago, and I don't think you responded to it, so I don't anticipate much change.

You can have faith in logic. There. There's your response.

[Alyekra]

I called the argument he makes irrefutable, since Christianity is true.

I think you're doing it backwards. You don't form a position and then try to prove it, you look at evidence and then draw conclusions from it.

Do you believe that all knowledge should be based on empirical evidence?

[The Corparation]

Guys, while the argument about blasphemy is very clever, I never said CS Lewis is infallible. I called the argument he makes irrefutable, since Christianity is true. I KNOW it is true because I can see how God has affected my life in so many ways, plus the fact that the Bible has consistent values throughout. But I'm trying to find a medium, possibly CS Lewis, through which to convince you guys.

The Bible Consistent? That's sure surprising given the thousands of contradictions shown here.

[Mondrova]

Guys, while the argument about blasphemy is very clever, I never said CS Lewis is infallible. I called the argument he makes irrefutable, since Christianity is true. I KNOW it is true because I can see how God has affected my life in so many ways, plus the fact that the Bible has consistent values throughout. But I'm trying to find a medium, possibly CS Lewis, through which to convince you guys.

Okay then, let me rephrase, why is Christianity true? When you respond, your argument should have soemthing aside from your own thoughts on the matter. I mean I'm a christian, sort of, but I don't think of Christianity as some great truth, just a creed. If I thought of it as fact it wouldn't be a religion.

[Risottia]

Yes, I'll give the Bible credit for being consistent,

Wut.

for the most part.

Oh you little weasel...

[LogiChristianity]

Guys, while the argument about blasphemy is very clever, I never said CS Lewis is infallible. I called the argument he makes irrefutable, since Christianity is true. I KNOW it is true because I can see how God has affected my life in so many ways, plus the fact that the Bible has consistent values throughout. But I'm trying to find a medium, possibly CS Lewis, through which to convince you guys.

You mean all the stuff that you agree with, the stuff you don't is metaphorical, right?

Not necessarily. The people who wrote it were human. They made mistakes. But there are still clearly consistent messages that appear in lots of places.

[Madoka Kaname]

Exactly. Isn't the whole point of Christianity faith - IE stuff that can't be proven, but that you FEEL is right?
Trying to prove Christianity through such thin and pseudo-scientific/philosophical ways isn't only ineffective, it actually cheapens what you're trying to teach.
I recall this same argument was used a few threads ago, and I don't think you responded to it, so I don't anticipate much change.

You can have faith in logic. There. There's your response.

No you can't. That's like saying I have faith the sky is blue.

[The Tiger Kingdom]

Try replicable facts.

FACT: We can't trust our thoughts if they are randomly created by "biochemistry" and "science."

FACT: The Bible has messages and values that appear in different books, though they are so similar. Thus, God must have had an influence.

FACT: All around you, you can see how God is guiding everyone's life.

FACT: I trust my thoughts more than I trust the thought of me being a meat-puppet for god. As far as I can tell, my thoughts are real. As far as I can tell, god never existed, at least certainly not your god.

FACT: Or they were copied (problematically and imperfectly) from each other (most likely). Or they coordinated. Or literally DOZENS OF OTHER EXPLANATIONS.

FACT: I don't see it at all.

[Madoka Kaname]

You mean all the stuff that you agree with, the stuff you don't is metaphorical, right?

Not necessarily. The people who wrote it were human. They made mistakes. But there are still clearly consistent messages that appear in lots of places.

They can be possessed by Satan.