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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:40 pm

The American Corporatocracy wrote:Logic is a good whore, she can be used to prove whatever you want. All you have to do is set up your goal, set up your premise and .... go.

Oh, how edgy you are.
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Postby Esternial » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:40 pm

Shnercropolis wrote:I hope everyone here realizes that C.S. Lewis was an Atheist for most of his life.
I bet that was already said.
Anywho, those are some of the most convincing arguments for the Christian faith I have ever seen. Better than anything I have ever thought of, for sure.

The guy contradicts himself, srsly.

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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:40 pm

Ifreann wrote:
The American Corporatocracy wrote:Logic is a good whore, she can be used to prove whatever you want. All you have to do is set up your goal, set up your premise and .... go.

Logic doesn't prove anything. Logic is only about the quality of the reasoning used. One can be illogical and right, and one can be logical and wrong.

Logic is like a mathematical function, it's only as good as the facts you put in.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:41 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Doavquas wrote:As a fellow brother in Christ I'd like to remind you that we don't have to "prove" God. He already does that, (Romans 1 starting in verse 18). Just show His love to all people! :hug:

Yes you do.

Well, not really. I mean, they have to if they expect us to start accepting his existence, but it's not like they're gonna get locked up if they don't prove God.

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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:41 pm

Shnercropolis wrote:Anywho, those are some of the most convincing arguments for the Christian faith I have ever seen. Better than anything I have ever thought of, for sure.

Did...did you actually read them?
Or are you THAT theologically deprived you haven't ever heard a better argument?
Hell, I could make a better argument for god's existence, and I'm an atheist.
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Postby Forsakia » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:42 pm

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He could have had his reasons. He could have used the Holocaust, for example, to teach people lessons about things.

EDIT: As in, people learn from tragedy.


Like "don't be Jewish, Romani, disabled, etc, that way you won't get killed" or something. Yeah, there must have been some GREAT lessons God gave.


Hypothetical utilitarianism is so open-ended to be undeniable, because you can make the theoretical claim that something worse could have happened.
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Postby Westerveim » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:43 pm

Doavquas wrote:As a fellow brother in Christ I'd like to remind you that we don't have to "prove" God. He already does that, (Romans 1 starting in verse 18). Just show His love to all people! :hug:


Prove that love exists.
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:43 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Yes you do.

Well, not really. I mean, they have to if they expect us to start accepting his existence, but it's not like they're gonna get locked up if they don't prove God.

Yes they will. If they don't...

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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:44 pm

Westerveim wrote:
Doavquas wrote:As a fellow brother in Christ I'd like to remind you that we don't have to "prove" God. He already does that, (Romans 1 starting in verse 18). Just show His love to all people! :hug:


Prove that love exists.


Porn and beer exist in the same universe.

Clearly there is a god that loves us and wants us to be happy.
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Postby Xeng He » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:44 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
LogiChristianity wrote:But free will.

Wait. So God is guiding our lives, but we have free will. How does that work, exactly? How do I have free will if some omnipresent power is controlling my life and guiding my choices?



Pretty simple, actually. We can choose to take whatever course of action we want, but since God can manipulate anything in our environment and the physical outcomes of all we do...
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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:44 pm

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Logic doesn't prove anything. Logic is only about the quality of the reasoning used. One can be illogical and right, and one can be logical and wrong.

Logic is like a mathematical function, it's only as good as the facts you put in.


Logic is like this metaphor that I'm making in that I'm actually using simile.

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Postby Death Metal » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:45 pm

Westerveim wrote:
Doavquas wrote:As a fellow brother in Christ I'd like to remind you that we don't have to "prove" God. He already does that, (Romans 1 starting in verse 18). Just show His love to all people! :hug:


Prove that love exists.


I got one better.

Doav: Prove that existence exists.
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Postby Snoozing Buffalax » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:45 pm

*finally caught up to the thread*

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:46 pm

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
Westerveim wrote:
Prove that love exists.


Porn and beer exist in the same universe.

Clearly there is a god that loves us and wants us to be happy.

I accept this reasoning. PRAISE BE TO JESUS!

No, dumbass*, it's a joke. It's not that easy to convert me.
*Dumbass included only for people who thought I actually believed because of this.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:46 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Yes you do.

Well, not really. I mean, they have to if they expect us to start accepting his existence, but it's not like they're gonna get locked up if they don't prove God.

We lock up the people who can't prove they're time-travelers, we give them nice jackets so that the hug themselves all the time.
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:46 pm

Death Metal wrote:
Westerveim wrote:
Prove that love exists.


I got one better.

Doav: Prove that existence exists.


I think therefore I am

Im such a damn cynical bastard I cant even accept that.
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Postby Valourium » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:46 pm

Ugh, it's this guy again. The last post he made about "Why Christianity is true" was a giant troll fest in which no actual evidence was presented for the side of Christianity.

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Postby Shnercropolis » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:46 pm

Westerveim wrote:
Doavquas wrote:As a fellow brother in Christ I'd like to remind you that we don't have to "prove" God. He already does that, (Romans 1 starting in verse 18). Just show His love to all people! :hug:


Prove that love exists.

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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:46 pm

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
Death Metal wrote:
I got one better.

Doav: Prove that existence exists.


I think therefore I am

Im such a damn cynical bastard I cant even accept that.

You think, therefore you think.
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Postby Death Metal » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:47 pm

Tlaceceyaya wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
I think therefore I am

Im such a damn cynical bastard I cant even accept that.

You think, therefore you think.


Prove that thinking exists.
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Postby Xeng He » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:48 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:No, dumbass*, it's a joke. It's not that easy to convert me.



Not even if I threw in pot? :p
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Postby Mondrova » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:48 pm

Death Metal wrote:
Tlaceceyaya wrote:You think, therefore you think.


Prove that thinking exists.


Prove that proof exists.
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Postby Menassa » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:48 pm

Valourium wrote:Ugh, it's this guy again. The last post he made about "Why Christianity is true" was a giant troll fest in which no actual evidence was presented for the side of Christianity.

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Postby Death Metal » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:49 pm

Mondrova wrote:
Death Metal wrote:
Prove that thinking exists.


Prove that proof exists.


Prove that "that" exists.
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Valourium wrote:Ugh, it's this guy again. The last post he made about "Why Christianity is true" was a giant troll fest in which no actual evidence was presented for the side of Christianity.

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