C.S. Lewis's Irrefutable Proof of Christianity (Or God)

[Mondrova]

And how exactly do you all know that God isn't guiding your life?

How exactly do you know I'm not guiding your life?

[Hamste]

Bullshit.

Source?

...source to how God is guiding everyone? You posted it orginally you should post the source first.

[Madoka Kaname]

Really, if we can't believe science, with all its evidence and factual information, what can we believe? Why are your facts facts, aside from the fact that you said them or the fairy in the sky and his magical death book told you so. Since we can't believe in proof how can we believe in god?

We can believe in God because He made our reasoning so that we can trust it.

Except Satan can influence your reasoning.

No where is safe. Satan is everywhere. Satan can influence every action you take.

[Ifreann]

Source your facts claims.

Fix'd.

Just as I posted I realised I should have had scare quotes, but I saw the OP had posted and went for that first.

[The Tiger Kingdom]

God so loved us that he had his own son brutally tortured to death. He didn't have to do it like that, though. He totally could have just waved his hand and made everything better without letting Jesus get brutalised. But somehow, that brutal, preventable crime proves that God loves us.

I have never seen this put quite so beautifully and succinctly before. You WIN sir!

But yet also, the fact that it happened once, a very long time ago in the past, means we're ALL culpable for it too. Everyone. Forever.
Same with the Apple of Eden thing.

[Condunum]

And how exactly do you all know that God isn't guiding your life?

Nuh-uh, you don't get out of it that easy. You made the claim. Back up your argument.

[Wisconsin9]

And how exactly do you all know that God isn't guiding your life?

THAT IS NOT HOW THINGS WORK. YOU MAKE A CLAIM, YOU BACK IT UP, NOT MAKE A CLAIM AND EXPECT THE OTHER PERSON TO BACK UP WHY IT'S WRONG. UNTIL YOU LEARN THIS, NO ONE HERE WILL EVER TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY.

[LogiChristianity]

And how exactly do you all know that God isn't guiding your life?

How exactly do you know I'm not guiding your life?

Because things are going in God's way, not your way.

[Avenio]

And how exactly do you all know that God isn't guiding your life?

If God is guiding my life, he's guiding me to not believing in him, and to regularly sin.

Ditto. I've never once had a religious experience in my entire life, and I suspect I never will.

[San Leggera]

Bullshit.

Source?

That's not how it works. You made the claim, you have to source it. ¿Comprendé?

[Condunum]

And how exactly do you all know that God isn't guiding your life?

THAT IS NOT HOW THINGS WORK. YOU MAKE A CLAIM, YOU BACK IT UP, NOT MAKE A CLAIM AND EXPECT THE OTHER PERSON TO BACK UP WHY IT'S WRONG. UNTIL YOU LEARN THIS, NO ONE HERE WILL EVER TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY.

*rubs ears* Ow.

[Cameroi]

fantasy is indeed irrefutable proof, that humans are capable of writing fantasy. hurray.

the unknown is out there alright. the point though, is that it IS UN-known.

not devils, demons, angels, or gods, not likely having the slightest desire to be worshiped, not wishing us any particular harm, nor even having any more idea we exist then we do about it, but certainly real, and at least part of it both completely non-physical and non-imaginary. not limited to or by, what anyone or any one belief, claims or imagines to know about it.

not some hierarchy that everything that doesn't work for is naughty for not doing so. not some two or small number of such hierarchies in competition or conflict with each other, but rather a diversity all of human knowledge is no more then a tiny fraction of.

fantasies are cool. creating and exploring are the two things we were all born to do. they are what make us "human".

fanatical attachment to one set of suppositions about existence and the universe, is the very nearly exact opposite of that.
and THAT is the problem the with chauvinistic bigotry of christianity and the small percentage of other beliefs that may be at times nearly as fanatical.

[The USOT]

And let's not forget how credible C.S. Lewis is.

Not at all. The man was a fairly good author, but he was no scientist.

Pretty much this. I mean yes a fantastic author, but I would not even begin to consider him in terms of proving the existence/lack of existence of something.
Likewise my own brother is fantastic with computers. That doesnt mean he has any credible basis for his ethical arguments/positions however.

[Chulainan]

And how exactly do you all know that God isn't guiding your life?

Because the Kami are, but that is my opinion, just like yours is your opinion. You see where I'm coming from, the exact reason you view me wrong is the reason I could view you wrong.

Your argument is an opinion and you should stop ignoring mine, its getting insulting and obvious.

[Condunum]

How exactly do you know I'm not guiding your life?

Because things are going in God's way, not your way.

And how do you know that?

[Menassa]

And how exactly do you all know that God isn't guiding your life?

THAT IS NOT HOW THINGS WORK. YOU MAKE A CLAIM, YOU BACK IT UP, NOT MAKE A CLAIM AND EXPECT THE OTHER PERSON TO BACK UP WHY IT'S WRONG. UNTIL YOU LEARN THIS, NO ONE HERE WILL EVER TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY.

Well I don't take anything seriously, so hah.

[The Tiger Kingdom]

And how exactly do you all know that God isn't guiding your life?

Then he's guiding me to tell you that you are wrong, your arguments are full of fallacies, and you've yet to prove a single claim that you've made.
YOU STILL HAVE TO PROVE YOUR CLAIM.

[San Leggera]

And how exactly do you all know that God isn't guiding your life?

And how exactly do you know that God is guiding yours?

[Wisconsin9]

How exactly do you know I'm not guiding your life?

Because things are going in God's way, not your way.

What the fuck does that even mean?

[AETEN II]

Bullshit.

Source?

What if I randomly killed someone? Would your deity be not guiding me towards murder, therefore being in no way benevolent and in fact evil? Deities are fairy tales created by humanity since their evolution to distract them from the chaotic violence of life, and give hope to a world without it. It's not only a logical deduction of why faith evolves, it also requires that none of the laws of physics be broken.
(And I believe is has been stated before on these forums, that if there was a deity, its actions include genocide, and therefore make it as evil as the mythical Cthulhu.)

[Silent Majority]

And how exactly do you all know that God isn't guiding your life?

How do you know the flying spaghetti monster isn't guiding your life?

[LogiChristianity]

If God is guiding my life, he's guiding me to not believing in him, and to regularly sin.

Ditto. I've never once had a religious experience in my entire life, and I suspect I never will.

That's just you guys exercising your free will.

[The USOT]

How exactly do you know I'm not guiding your life?

Because things are going in God's way, not your way.

You dont know that? Everything may indeed be going to the will of Mondrova.

[Atollus]

And how exactly do you all know that God isn't guiding your life?

Well for starters I'm a polytheist. I can honestly say I hate the concept of that bastard you call God. (You can't hate something that doesn't actually exist after all). That and I'd sooner throw my lot in with your "Satan" than your God. If that is his idea of guidance I'd say he is very, very bad at it.

[Tlaceceyaya]

How exactly do you know I'm not guiding your life?

Because things are going in God's way, not your way.

Mwuh ha ha ha ha! Things are going exactly as I planned. He thinks that this is all god's plan! Little does he know, it is mine!

In other words: Prove it.