C.S. Lewis's Irrefutable Proof of Christianity (Or God)

[Mondrova]

Try replicable facts.

FACT: We can't trust our thoughts if they are randomly created by "biochemistry" and "science."

FACT: The Bible has messages and values that appear in different books, though they are so similar. Thus, God must have had an influence.

FACT: All around you, you can see how God is guiding everyone's life.

Really, if we can't believe science, with all its evidence and factual information, what can we believe? Why are your facts facts, aside from the fact that you said them or the fairy in the sky and his magical death book told you so. Since we can't believe in proof how can we believe in god?

[Ifreann]

Christianity wanted me to kill myself.

Christianity killed Jesus. Think about it.

God so loved us that he had his own son brutally tortured to death. He didn't have to do it like that, though. He totally could have just waved his hand and made everything better without letting Jesus get brutalised. But somehow, that brutal, preventable crime proves that God loves us.

[San Leggera]

plus the fact that the Bible has consistent values throughout.

Yes, it's really consistent.

[Nordengrund]

Well, the sky is blue

It depends.

True. Blue is just a word. You can call it whatever you want, but it remains the same color, even if you say it is orange.

[The Tiger Kingdom]

Bullshit.

Source?

THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU. YOU MADE THE CLAIM.
THIS IS HOW AN ARGUMENT WORKS.

[Condunum]

Bullshit.

Source?

Perhaps he needs none, and since you are the one claiming god is guiding us, you need to prove it. Stop claiming "source?" when you rarely fucking do the same

[Silent Majority]

Bullshit.

Source?

Uh, the burden of proof is on you, as you made the claim.

[Wisconsin9]

Bullshit.

Source?

Nuh-uh. That's not how it works. You come up with a hypothesis, then you back it up. That's how things work.

Not that I expect you to listen to me. You completely ignored me explaining the scientific method the last three or four times.

[Menassa]

How has God proved that he is the Christian God?

He told Michele Bachmann

Jesus..... she is scary.

[Alyekra]

FACT: We can't trust our thoughts if they are randomly created by "biochemistry" and "science."

FACT: The Bible has messages and values that appear in different books, though they are so similar. Thus, God must have had an influence.

FACT: All around you, you can see how God is guiding everyone's life.

Really, if we can't believe science, with all its evidence and factual information, what can we believe? Why are your facts facts, aside from the fact that you said them or the fairy in the sky and his magical death book told you so. Since we can't believe in proof how can we believe in god?

We can believe in God because He made our reasoning so that we can trust it.

[Madoka Kaname]

Oh man, let';s not get into the old "is the red color I see the red color that YOU see?!" stoner debate.
Not here. NOT LIKE THIS.

The point is: I don't think it would be unreasonable to assume that he has faith that his senses are giving his brain the correct information

You're right. But just because he says it's irrefutable doesn't mean it's true for the rest of us. Or the universe.

[Runfin]

Bullshit.

Source?

You made the claim, the burden of proof is on you

[Condunum]

It depends.

True. Blue is just a word. You can call it whatever you want, but it remains the same color, even if you say it is orange.

I think he means that the sky is not always blue.

[Atollus]

God so loved us that he had his own son brutally tortured to death. He didn't have to do it like that, though. He totally could have just waved his hand and made everything better without letting Jesus get brutalised. But somehow, that brutal, preventable crime proves that God loves us.

I have never seen this put quite so beautifully and succinctly before. You WIN sir!

[Alyekra]

True. Blue is just a word. You can call it whatever you want, but it remains the same color, even if you say it is orange.

I think he means that the sky is not always blue.

(I meant that maybe our senses are lying to us)

[Ifreann]

Bullshit.

Source?

Source your "facts".

[LogiChristianity]

And how exactly do you all know that God isn't guiding your life?

[Death Metal]

Bullshit.

Source?

The best thing that ever happened to me was rejecting Christianity.

Seriously. My grades went up, I had a girlfriend, and found a $100 bill in my pocket right after that happened.

[Chulainan]

It depends.

True. Blue is just a word. You can call it whatever you want, but it remains the same color, even if you say it is orange.

Unless the sun is setting or rising or course.

Don't even get me started about night, (that jackass and it's severe decrease in light).

[Alyekra]

Source?

Source your facts.

Do you believe that knowledge should be based on empirical evidence?

[Wisconsin9]

Source?

Source your facts claims.

Fix'd.

[Nordengrund]

True. Blue is just a word. You can call it whatever you want, but it remains the same color, even if you say it is orange.

I think he means that the sky is not always blue.

True. It is not blue when it is night.

[Ifreann]

And how exactly do you all know that God isn't guiding your life?

If God is guiding my life, he's guiding me to not believing in him, and to regularly sin.

[Ashmoria]

Christianity killed Jesus. Think about it.

God so loved us that he had his own son brutally tortured to death. He didn't have to do it like that, though. He totally could have just waved his hand and made everything better without letting Jesus get brutalised. But somehow, that brutal, preventable crime proves that God loves us.

its like when your boyfriend beats up the guy who talks to you at the bar. it proves how much he loves you.

[Menassa]

And how exactly do you all know that God isn't guiding your life?

First off, how do we know he is?

Second off, how do we know he is The Christian God(s)