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^^^All from here.
Hey guys, I don't know if you remember me, but I tried using several threads before on very broad topics to try to prove Christianity. That obviously wasn't the best idea, seeing as I had too much to handle, even though it was well supported and true nonetheless.
But I would like to bring NSG's attention to some simple flows of logic that make God (or even Christianity) seem obviously true. I might not be the best debater, but this guy, C.S. Lewis, clearly knew what he was talking about. I want to see if NSG can even begin to approach a way to disprove them. I think you'll find the answer is no; there is no debater on NSG good enough to prove that which is blatantly false. So, here they are, all from C.S. Lewis. Some of them also prove evolution not true.
PLEASE deal with my proof first before you try to bring in unrelated information. But, if you are going to make a claim using that information, PLEASE have a legitimate source.
NUMBER ONE: SILLY BIOCHEMISTRY
If minds are wholly dependent on brains, and brains on biochemistry, and biochemistry (in the long run) on the meaningless flux of the atoms, I cannot understand how the thought of those minds should have any more significance than the sound of the wind in the trees.
NUMBER TWO: THE WORLD IS NOT A MILK JUG PART 1
Supposing there was no intelligence behind the universe, no creative mind. In that case, nobody designed my brain for the purpose of thinking. It is merely that when the atoms inside my skull happen, for physical or chemical reasons, to arrange themselves in a certain way, this gives me, as a by-product, the sensation I call thought. But, if so, how can I trust my own thinking to be true? It’s like upsetting a milk jug and hoping that the way it splashes itself will give you a map of London. But if I can’t trust my own thinking, of course I can’t trust the arguments leading to Atheism, and therefore have no reason to be an Atheist, or anything else. Unless I believe in God, I cannot believe in thought: so I can never use thought to disbelieve in God.
NUMBER THREE: THE WORLD IS NOT A MILK JUG PART 2
If the solar system was brought about by an accidental collision, then the appearance of organic life on this planet was also an accident, and the whole evolution of Man was an accident too. If so, then all our present thoughts are mere accidents – the accidental by-product of the movement of atoms. And this holds for the thoughts of the materialists and astronomers as well as for anyone else’s. But if their thoughts–i.e., Materialism and Astronomy–are mere accidental by-products, why should we believe them to be true? I see no reason for believing that one accident should be able to give me a correct account of all the other accidents. It’s like expecting the accidental shape taken by the splash when you upset a milk-jug should give you a correct account of how the jug was made and why it was upset.
NUMBER FOUR: YOU CAN'T LEARN FROM JESUS UNLESS YOU BELIEVE HE IS GOD
I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept his claim to be God. That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic — on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg — or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God, or else a madman or something worse. You can shut him up for a fool, you can spit at him and kill him as a demon or you can fall at his feet and call him Lord and God, but let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about his being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.
NUMBER FIVE: CHRISTIANS ARE DIFFERENT FROM EVERYONE ELSE
The Christian is in a different position from other people who are trying to be good. They hope, by being good, to please God if there is one; or — if they think there is not — at least they hope to deserve approval from good men. But the Christian thinks any good he does comes from the Christ-life inside him. He does not think God will love us because we are good, but that God will make us good because He loves us; just as the roof of a greenhouse does not attract the sun because it is bright, but becomes bright because the sun shines on it.
And let's not forget how credible C.S. Lewis is. Though, I suppose, if you didn't want to directly address the arguments (like many of you won't) then you could attack his credibility. But I assure, that is just as impossible to do.
Thank you.
