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Postby Thepubofgod » Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:57 am

Willam the Conqueor wrote:Capitalism vs. Communism.The question is what is better?I think Communism is.Both are Industrial governments.So tell me what is better or worse and why. :) What do you think?? :?:



maybe a bit of both

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Postby Camelza » Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:05 am

Why can't we just agree that the best option is eco-pacifist,social liberal,welfare-providing,centrism and move on?
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Postby Oswald Spengler » Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:06 am

Communism and Capitalism have many flaws, Socialism is the organic cultural process, in an economy, which is neither dominated by oppressive monopoly capitalist(communist regimes) or mercantilist capitalist (Fascist Corporatocracy). Socialism, comes in many forms, and can be adapted to suit cultures and ethnic groups with radically different interests.

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Postby Malenki » Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:37 am

Willam the Conqueor wrote:Capitalism vs. Communism.The question is what is better?I think Communism is.Both are Industrial governments.So tell me what is better or worse and why. :) What do you think?? :?:

What do you think if we are to have both communism and capitalism intergrated as one society? Have you considered mixing all types of system and their doctrines in theory and practically try to have them function as one society? Wonder what the end result would be like. PETER CHANNEL MALENKI

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Postby Divair » Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:47 am

Malenki wrote:
Willam the Conqueor wrote:Capitalism vs. Communism.The question is what is better?I think Communism is.Both are Industrial governments.So tell me what is better or worse and why. :) What do you think?? :?:

What do you think if we are to have both communism and capitalism intergrated as one society? Have you considered mixing all types of system and their doctrines in theory and practically try to have them function as one society? Wonder what the end result would be like. PETER CHANNEL MALENKI

You cannot have a communist and capitalist society at once.

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Postby Divair » Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:47 am

Camelza wrote:Why can't we just agree that the best option is eco-pacifist,social liberal,welfare-providing,centrism and move on?

Because it isn't.

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Postby Yandere Schoolgirls » Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:12 am

Divair wrote:
Malenki wrote:What do you think if we are to have both communism and capitalism intergrated as one society? Have you considered mixing all types of system and their doctrines in theory and practically try to have them function as one society? Wonder what the end result would be like. PETER CHANNEL MALENKI

You cannot have a communist and capitalist society at once.

You can have communist society within a capitalist society, but not vice versa. A person could build up wealth, purchase a plot of land and create his dream communist society.

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Postby Divair » Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:28 am

Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:
Divair wrote:You cannot have a communist and capitalist society at once.

You can have communist society within a capitalist society, but not vice versa. A person could build up wealth, purchase a plot of land and create his dream communist society.

Theoretically, yes.

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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:40 am

Camelza wrote:Why can't we just agree that the best option is eco-pacifist,social liberal,welfare-providing,centrism and move on?


Maybe because it's not?


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Postby Camelza » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:10 am

Divair wrote:
Camelza wrote:Why can't we just agree that the best option is eco-pacifist,social liberal,welfare-providing,centrism and move on?

Because it isn't.

but you are a social democrat...

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Postby Divair » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:12 am

Camelza wrote:
Divair wrote:Because it isn't.

but you are a social democrat...

Which is not centrism, nor is social democracy the "best". It's simply the most viable system that we currently have.

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Postby Camelza » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:19 am

Divair wrote:
Camelza wrote:but you are a social democrat...

Which is not centrism, nor is social democracy the "best". It's simply the most viable system that we currently have.

Social democrats are practically left-leaning centrists ...the real centre-leftists are moderate democratic socialists.

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Postby Divair » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:20 am

Camelza wrote:
Divair wrote:Which is not centrism, nor is social democracy the "best". It's simply the most viable system that we currently have.

Social democrats are practically left-leaning centrists ...the real centre-leftists are moderate democratic socialists.

Hah, no.

Social democracy is a bit left from center-leftism. Democratic socialists are on the verge of far-leftism.

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Postby Camelza » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:23 am

Divair wrote:
Camelza wrote:Social democrats are practically left-leaning centrists ...the real centre-leftists are moderate democratic socialists.

Hah, no.

Social democracy is a bit left from center-leftism. Democratic socialists are on the verge of far-leftism.

It's a matter of spectrum ...I guess for Israel that might be the case.


oh,and if that's how you think it is then were would you put libertarian communists?

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Postby Divair » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:24 am

Camelza wrote:
Divair wrote:Hah, no.

Social democracy is a bit left from center-leftism. Democratic socialists are on the verge of far-leftism.

It's a matter of spectrum ...I guess for Israel that might be the case.


oh,and if that's how you think it is then were would you put libertarian communists?

You mean communism? That's the furthest left you can go.

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Postby Camelza » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:28 am

Divair wrote:
Camelza wrote:It's a matter of spectrum ...I guess for Israel that might be the case.


oh,and if that's how you think it is then were would you put libertarian communists?

You mean communism? That's the furthest left you can go.

No,I said libertarian communism or "true" communism (not the marxist-leninist,revolutionary-socialist thing)

and what about Bakunin's social anarchy? where would that go?

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Postby Divair » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:30 am

Camelza wrote:
Divair wrote:You mean communism? That's the furthest left you can go.

No,I said libertarian communism or "true" communism (not the marxist-leninist,revolutionary-socialist thing)

and what about Bakunin's social anarchy? where would that go?

Libertarian communism is communism. Non-libertarian communism is an oxymoron.

And I don't know about Bakunin's social anarchy, so I wouldn't be able to tell you.

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Postby Camelza » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:36 am

Divair wrote:
Camelza wrote:No,I said libertarian communism or "true" communism (not the marxist-leninist,revolutionary-socialist thing)

and what about Bakunin's social anarchy? where would that go?

Libertarian communism is communism. Non-libertarian communism is an oxymoron.

well,I'm glad I found someone that understands that ..most people when hear the word communism start rambling about the USSR & Stalin

Divair wrote:And I don't know about Bakunin's social anarchy, so I wouldn't be able to tell you.

you should,there isn't anything further left ...thus my spectrum is correct.

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Postby Camelza » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:39 am

Inyourfaceistan wrote:
Camelza wrote:Why can't we just agree that the best option is eco-pacifist,social liberal,welfare-providing,centrism and move on?


Maybe because it's not?

I'm appalled by your most enlightening points on why it isn't.
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Postby Romanian » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:40 am

Capitalism will die soon :clap: :)
Comunist is future :bow: :twisted:
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Postby Great Islamic Empire » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:44 am

Communism is the worst aberration ever appeared in the face of Earth.

Stalin's Purge; the repression of religion and spirituality; the deplorable satanic materialism; the invasions of Cecoslovachia, Hungary and Afghanistan are only few examples of what communism was for humanity.

For what concerne the economic policy, communism is just made for those who don't want to work and want the government protecting their ass while they are wasting their times singing the Internationale and shouting like dogs at the strikes.
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Postby Divair » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:46 am

Camelza wrote:well,I'm glad I found someone that understands that ..most people when hear the word communism start rambling about the USSR & Stalin

Ideally I'm a communist, I know my own ideology ;)

Camelza wrote:you should,there isn't anything further left ...thus my spectrum is correct.

Just because I don't know something doesn't mean your spectrum is correct.

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Postby Camelza » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:46 am

Romanian wrote:Capitalism will die soon :clap: :)
Comunist is future :bow: :twisted:

Great Islamic Empire wrote:Communism is the worst aberration ever appeared in the face of Earth.

Stalin's Purge; the repression of religion and spirituality; the deplorable satanic materialism; the invasions of Cecoslovachia, Hungary and Afghanistan are only few examples of what communism was for humanity.

For what concerne the economic policy, communism is just made for those who don't want to work and want the government protecting their ass while they are wasting their times singing the Internationale and shouting like dogs at the strikes.

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Postby Zottistan » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:49 am

Great Islamic Empire wrote:Stalin's Purge; the repression of religion and spirituality; the deplorable satanic materialism; the invasions of Cecoslovachia, Hungary and Afghanistan are only few examples of what communism was for humanity.


Seriously? All this? Good for communism!
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Postby Great Islamic Empire » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:50 am

Zottistan wrote:
Great Islamic Empire wrote:Stalin's Purge; the repression of religion and spirituality; the deplorable satanic materialism; the invasions of Cecoslovachia, Hungary and Afghanistan are only few examples of what communism was for humanity.


Seriously? All this? Good for communism!


You should be ashamed because of this assertion.
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