Capitalism vs. Communism

[Willam the Conqueor]

My mom was born in USSR She knows about communisim.

[Mavorpen]

The fuck?

What the fuck is your fucking question?

The blatant contradiction outlined in red.

[The USOT]

Also why is this a question anyway?

You are comparing an entire economic system to one idea within another economic system.

Capitalism vs socialism sure.
But capitalism vs communism?
Makes just as much sense as saying Cartelism vs Socialism.

[Sibirsky]

Are you a anti-communist??

No. I'm wondering why Sibirsky said it's proven that capitalist societies are more free, and then turn around admitting no communist society on a national scale has been implemented.

Because every attempt at communism has resulted in clusterfucks like North Korea, the Soviet Union, Cuba, Cambodia and other shit. None of them good.

[Sibirsky]

What the fuck is your fucking question?

The blatant contradiction outlined in red.

There was no contradiction.

[Willam the Conqueor]

The fuck?

What the fuck is your fucking question?

Funny

[Sibirsky]

My mom was born in USSR She knows about communisim.

I was born in the USSR. I know about communism.

[Mavorpen]

No. I'm wondering why Sibirsky said it's proven that capitalist societies are more free, and then turn around admitting no communist society on a national scale has been implemented.

Because every attempt at communism has resulted in clusterfucks like North Korea, the Soviet Union, Cuba, Cambodia and other shit. None of them good.

And like you said, none of them are actual communist societies. So how do you know that communist societies on the national scale are not more free? I would have agreed if you said, "attempts at capitalism have proven to result in more free societies, while attempts at communism has not." But your wording was honestly very contradicting.

[Sibirsky]

Because every attempt at communism has resulted in clusterfucks like North Korea, the Soviet Union, Cuba, Cambodia and other shit. None of them good.

And like you said, none of them are actual communist societies. So how do you know that communist societies on the national scale are not more free? I would have agreed if you said, "attempts at capitalism have proven to result in more free societies, while attempts at communism has not." But your wording was honestly very contradicting.

No, it was not.

Sure, none of them achieved it. But they have tried. Resulting in little to no freedom, poverty and bloodshed.

[Cancerous Conservatism]

The free market/true capitalism is the best system. It encourages self-efficiency and lack of reliance on others.

[Willam the Conqueor]

My mom was born in USSR She knows about communisim.

I was born in the USSR. I know about communism.

You were?

[Mavorpen]

No, it was not.

Sure, none of them achieved it. But they have tried. Resulting in little to no freedom, poverty and bloodshed.

That's what I JUST said.

And like you said, none of them are actual communist societies. So how do you know that communist societies on the national scale are not more free? I would have agreed if you said, "attempts at capitalism have proven to result in more free societies, while attempts at communism has not." But your wording was honestly very contradicting.

I get the feeling you're intentionally ignoring my posts at this point. Just admit it, your wording was contradictory. I agree with your revised statement that the attempts failed while the attempts at capitalism have resulted in more freedom than when communism was attempted.

[4years]

ONE EXAMPLE: Paris Commune
Oh, and communism definitely.

didn't all lot of people die in the paris commune.

yes, they were members of the commune that were killed by the invading army that destroyed the paris commune. The deaths in the commune are at the feat of the invading (French) army that attcked the commune, not the citizens that tried to defend it against all odds. Of course, the untrained citizens in the commune were defeated by the professional French army, but the example still stands.

[The USOT]

My mom was born in USSR She knows about communisim.

My father was born in the UK. Doesnt mean he knows too much about capitalism.

[4years]

My mom was born in USSR She knows about communisim.

I was born in the USSR. I know about communism.

the USSR was state capitalist or stalinst of you prefer, not communist or socialist. as is explained every day on this website.

[Williamson]

The free market/true capitalism is the best system. It encourages self-efficiency and lack of reliance on others.

By true capitalism do you mean unlimated trade with other countries and zero goverment restrucation on businesses then i rather have communism.

[Willam the Conqueor]

My mom was born in USSR She knows about communisim.

My father was born in the UK. Doesnt mean he knows too much about capitalism.

Oh.

[Mavorpen]

The free market/true capitalism is the best system. It encourages self-efficiency and lack of reliance on others.

By true capitalism do you mean unlimated trade with other countries and zero goverment restrucation on businesses then i rather have communism.

Why would that be the "true" capitalism when even Adam Smith advocated for the government to play a very important role in the economy.

[Occupied Deutschland]

Capitalist societies have proven to be more free and more prosperous. It's a hands down win for capitalism.

Of course, the communists will claim that no true communist society (at least on a national scale) has ever existed. While it is true, it is also true that the leaders of those societies, for the most part, did believe in communism, and did attempt to establish it. Through force.

The fuck?

Reading comprehension. It's a good thing.

The second part of the sentence is in addition to the first. So it is true that no communist society's ever existed on a national scale. IT IS ALSO TRUE that the leaders of those societies were trying to accomplish that goal. They failed terribly, but they were attempting to do it.

[Mavorpen]

The fuck?

Reading comprehension. It's a good thing.

The second part of the sentence is in addition to the first. So it is true that no communist society's ever existed on a national scale. IT IS ALSO TRUE that the leaders of those societies were trying to accomplish that goal. They failed terribly, but they were attempting to do it.

No, it was not.

Sure, none of them achieved it. But they have tried. Resulting in little to no freedom, poverty and bloodshed.

That's what I JUST said.

And like you said, none of them are actual communist societies. So how do you know that communist societies on the national scale are not more free? I would have agreed if you said, "attempts at capitalism have proven to result in more free societies, while attempts at communism has not." But your wording was honestly very contradicting.

I get the feeling you're intentionally ignoring my posts at this point. Just admit it, your wording was contradictory. I agree with your revised statement that the attempts failed while the attempts at capitalism have resulted in more freedom than when communism was attempted.

Additionally, I should have stressed that my main problem was that the point in blue was seeming to be second to the point in red. I emphasized the point in red because it was a contradiction. The point in blue should have been his main and only point about capitalism being better.

[Sibirsky]

I was born in the USSR. I know about communism.

You were?

Yes.

[Willam the Conqueor]

You were?

Yes.

Cool

[Sibirsky]

I was born in the USSR. I know about communism.

the USSR was state capitalist or stalinst of you prefer, not communist or socialist. as is explained every day on this website.

It was socialist. Deny it all you want, but that is a fact.

[Williamson]

By true capitalism do you mean unlimated trade with other countries and zero goverment restrucation on businesses then i rather have communism.

Why would that be the "true" capitalism when even Adam Smith advocated for the government to play a very important role in the economy.

so plese explain true capitalism to me. It's seems like you know better than me.

[Willam the Conqueor]

the USSR was state capitalist or stalinst of you prefer, not communist or socialist. as is explained every day on this website.

It was socialist. Deny it all you want, but that is a fact.

Oh,Ill ask my mother.See if she agrees.