Why are there so many left-wingers on NSG?

[Pope Joan]

We may need some clear boundaries. When a majority of citizens in the West espouse some form of state involvement in the economy, can we call that "leftist"? Is it more likely centrist?

Which makes Obama and all of America right wing, and that is an observable fact.

Maoist? Now there are some reaL leftists.

[Germanic Templars]

I rarely see conservatives on NSG, and often they're radical ideologues that would make the Tea Party proud. And as for the left-wingers, they also sound quite extreme- many of them are social democrats if not outright socialists. This is reflected in the country classification distributions to some extent, but even more so when I participate in debates- most of the time I end up getting attacked from both sides. What draws the left wing to NSG? Is it because most NSGers are teenagers? Or is there some other reason?

Step 1: I'm not a left winger or a right wing, even though i lean slightly to the right

Step 2: Asking that is liking ask like asking why so many atheist are on NSG, nobody knows.

[Kvatchdom]

We may need some clear boundaries. When a majority of citizens in the West espouse some form of state involvement in the economy, can we call that "leftist"? Is it more likely centrist?

Which makes Obama and all of America right wing, and that is an observable fact.

Maoist? Now there are some reaL leftists.

Social Democrats are often centre-right, but are considered to be on the left by the more ignorant less-political branch of Europeans.

Obama and all of America is right-wing, to the right of most European governments.

I'm a left-communist, ultra-leftist and a somewhat militarist person. Am I a real leftist? Maoists are in the centre of the left square, Left Communists are in the far-left.

[Kvatchdom]

Because what's centrist in Canada and Europe is left in America.

Also yes, NS has a younger demographic, and teenagers tend to be more liberal than the overall population.

By "Liberal" do you mean the actual Liberal, capitalist, free market stuff or "Socialist", industrial democracy, etc? Liberals are NOT left. I'm a leftist and I can't stand Liberals in social or political life. Don't know why. Most of my friends are either Communists, Socialists, Conservatives, Corporatists or Black Nationalists(Yes, indeed), but none of them are liberal. Just can't stand the "Free world! Peace! Love!" shit.

[Pope Joan]

We may need some clear boundaries. When a majority of citizens in the West espouse some form of state involvement in the economy, can we call that "leftist"? Is it more likely centrist?

Which makes Obama and all of America right wing, and that is an observable fact.

Maoist? Now there are some reaL leftists.

Social Democrats are often centre-right, but are considered to be on the left by the more ignorant less-political branch of Europeans.

Obama and all of America is right-wing, to the right of most European governments.

I'm a left-communist, ultra-leftist and a somewhat militarist person. Am I a real leftist? Maoists are in the centre of the left square, Left Communists are in the far-left.

Thank you for providing parameters.

[Wamitoria]

If American, it's because everything even remotely to the left of American conservatism is considered far-left radical socialism these days.

If European, you should know better.

[Kvatchdom]

Social Democrats are often centre-right, but are considered to be on the left by the more ignorant less-political branch of Europeans.

Obama and all of America is right-wing, to the right of most European governments.

I'm a left-communist, ultra-leftist and a somewhat militarist person. Am I a real leftist? Maoists are in the centre of the left square, Left Communists are in the far-left.

Thank you for providing parameters.

You're welcome. The whole Maoist/Stalinist stuff is still confusing to me, and I don't actually know where they are in the compass, but due to state intervention rather than industrial democracy, I assume Maoism is not far-left.

[Wamitoria]

Thank you for providing parameters.

You're welcome. The whole Maoist/Stalinist stuff is still confusing to me, and I don't actually know where they are in the compass, but due to state intervention rather than industrial democracy, I assume Maoism is not far-left.

Maoism and most forms of Marxism-Leninism are pretty much too batshit insane to qualify for any position on the political left/right paradigm.

[Kvatchdom]

You're welcome. The whole Maoist/Stalinist stuff is still confusing to me, and I don't actually know where they are in the compass, but due to state intervention rather than industrial democracy, I assume Maoism is not far-left.

Maoism and most forms of Marxism-Leninism are pretty much too batshit insane to qualify for any position on the political left/right paradigm.

Quite. Same can be said of National Bolshevism and Juche.

[Keronians]

Because what's centrist in Canada and Europe is left in America.

Also yes, NS has a younger demographic, and teenagers tend to be more liberal than the overall population.

By "Liberal" do you mean the actual Liberal, capitalist, free market stuff or "Socialist", industrial democracy, etc? Liberals are NOT left. I'm a leftist and I can't stand Liberals in social or political life. Don't know why. Most of my friends are either Communists, Socialists, Conservatives, Corporatists or Black Nationalists(Yes, indeed), but none of them are liberal. Just can't stand the "Free world! Peace! Love!" shit.

The leftist.

[Kvatchdom]

By "Liberal" do you mean the actual Liberal, capitalist, free market stuff or "Socialist", industrial democracy, etc? Liberals are NOT left. I'm a leftist and I can't stand Liberals in social or political life. Don't know why. Most of my friends are either Communists, Socialists, Conservatives, Corporatists or Black Nationalists(Yes, indeed), but none of them are liberal. Just can't stand the "Free world! Peace! Love!" shit.

The leftist.

That's quite wrong, at least here in Finland. Most are either right-wing Liberals(National Coalition/Social Democratic Party) or plain Nationalists shits(True Finns Party). Only a few of us are actually left, and this is Finland. I can bet that the youth of America is about half as left as we are.

[Wamitoria]

Maoism and most forms of Marxism-Leninism are pretty much too batshit insane to qualify for any position on the political left/right paradigm.

Quite. Same can be said of National Bolshevism and Juche.

I honestly think that the underlying concepts of National Bolshevism have some merit; at least if they were expounded upon by people who weren't idiots.

[Keronians]

The leftist.

That's quite wrong, at least here in Finland. Most are either right-wing Liberals(National Coalition/Social Democratic Party) or plain Nationalists shits(True Finns Party). Only a few of us are actually left, and this is Finland. I can bet that the youth of America is about half as left as we are.

Perhaps. Since when is the social democrat a rightist, though? He can certainly be a right-leaning centrist, but most commonly, I find social democrats to be on the left. Anecdotal, obviously, so it's not evidence of anything.

[Zaras]

That's quite wrong, at least here in Finland. Most are either right-wing Liberals(National Coalition/Social Democratic Party) or plain Nationalists shits(True Finns Party). Only a few of us are actually left, and this is Finland. I can bet that the youth of America is about half as left as we are.

Perhaps. Since when is the social democrat a rightist, though? He can certainly be a right-leaning centrist, but most commonly, I find social democrats to be on the left. Anecdotal, obviously, so it's not evidence of anything.

There's always someone more left than you.

[Nordengrund]

Compared to the real world, there aren't many right wingers here.

And this is why I asked the question. It all depends on the environment. My school is overwhelmingly left-wing (but not nearly as much as around here), but the outside (the American South- I live in Georgia) is reactionary right-wing. I'm considered moderate to somewhat conservative at school and a downright socialist on the outside. It just so happens that there doesn't seem to be as many Americans here as I would have thought, and most of the Europeans, Australians, Canadians, etc on this site are extreme to a liberal American such as myself.

My school is rightist, being located in the South, and we mention God and Jesus everyday without anyone getting offended.

[Zaras]

My school is rightist, being located in the South, and we mention God and Jesus everyday without anyone getting offended.

In other news, bears shit in woods, Pope Catholic, sun rises in the morning.

[Genivaria]

And this is why I asked the question. It all depends on the environment. My school is overwhelmingly left-wing (but not nearly as much as around here), but the outside (the American South- I live in Georgia) is reactionary right-wing. I'm considered moderate to somewhat conservative at school and a downright socialist on the outside. It just so happens that there doesn't seem to be as many Americans here as I would have thought, and most of the Europeans, Australians, Canadians, etc on this site are extreme to a liberal American such as myself.

My school is rightist, being located in the South, and we mention God and Jesus everyday without anyone getting offended.

If I was surrounded by only white supremacists I doubt they'd take offense to the word nigger, kike, or spic.

[Nordengrund]

My school is rightist, being located in the South, and we mention God and Jesus everyday without anyone getting offended.

If I was surrounded by only white supremacists I doubt they'd take offense to the word nigger, kike, or spic.

The South is actually no longer racist, and is full of nice and very polite people.

[Tlaceceyaya]

If I was surrounded by only white supremacists I doubt they'd take offense to the word nigger, kike, or spic.

The South is actually no longer racist, and is full of nice and very polite people.

He was not insinuating that. He was using your logic, but substituting the south for white supremacists.

[Genivaria]

If I was surrounded by only white supremacists I doubt they'd take offense to the word nigger, kike, or spic.

The South is actually no longer racist, and is full of nice and very polite people.

I doubt thats completely true seeing as how I live in Texas and I hear about how our president is an Arab every other day.
And I wasn't saying that Southerners are racists I was just making an analogy to show how irrelevant your argument is.

[Not Safe For Work]

If I was surrounded by only white supremacists I doubt they'd take offense to the word nigger, kike, or spic.

The South is actually no longer racist, and is full of nice and very polite people.

I'm going to have to say that our experiences differ. Round here, the Inauguration of the latest President of the United States was the cause of jokes like "Can we really call it the White House, now there's a nigger in it?". And other equally classy witticism.

[Zaras]

The South is actually no longer racist, and is full of nice and very polite people.

So? I've seen too many Southerners constantly bring up this whole overblown "Southern hospitality" thing as if it's somehow a counterargument when people point out its terrible history, and the fact that a lot of times it still comes across to many people as, like, epitomising everything wrong with the USA.

I'll bet Minnesotans are even more polite, and they usually don't bother reminding people of that. I don't know what the fact that you have to remind people that the South has polite people says - either the South's perception is still so horrible you have to remind people it's not basically a theocracy waiting to happen, or you're accidentally implying that people being polite is somehow out of the ordinary in the South.

[Zaras]

The South is actually no longer racist, and is full of nice and very polite people.

I'm going to have to say that our experiences differ. Round here, the Inauguration of the latest President of the United States was the cause of jokes like "Can we really call it the White House, now there's a nigger in it?". And other equally classy witticism.

Hazarding a guess... Mississippi? Alabama?

[Nordengrund]

The South is actually no longer racist, and is full of nice and very polite people.

So? I've seen too many Southerners constantly bring up this whole overblown "Southern hospitality" thing as if it's somehow a counterargument when people point out its terrible history, and the fact that a lot of times it still comes across to many people as, like, epitomising everything wrong with the USA.

I'll bet Minnesotans are even more polite, and they usually don't bother reminding people of that. I don't know what the fact that you have to remind people that the South has polite people says - either the South's perception is still so horrible you have to remind people it's not basically a theocracy waiting to happen, or you're accidentally implying that people being polite is somehow out of the ordinary in the South.

Come down 'ere and see for y'self!

[Genivaria]

I'm going to have to say that our experiences differ. Round here, the Inauguration of the latest President of the United States was the cause of jokes like "Can we really call it the White House, now there's a nigger in it?". And other equally classy witticism.

Hazarding a guess... Mississippi? Alabama?

Texas. I've heard that one to.