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Postby Aethrys » Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:49 pm

Because right wingers are old, and old people can't use computers.
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Postby North Calaveras » Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:50 pm

My ideology is devoid of any set government type

It can be a democracy/dictatorship/monarchy/oligarchy whatever

as long as the social views are libertarian, the economy is highly capitalist, aggressive foreign policy and tighter border control, pro-gun, pro-gay marriage

i usually call myself a nationalist libertarian.
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Postby Distruzio » Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:52 pm

North Calaveras wrote:My ideology is devoid of any set government type

It can be a democracy/dictatorship/monarchy/oligarchy whatever

as long as the social views are libertarian, the economy is highly capitalist, aggressive foreign policy and tighter border control, pro-gun, pro-gay marriage

i usually call myself a nationalist libertarian.


If you are concerned with finding the correct party representation, then you seem to lean more towards a relatively liberal fascist form of gov't. Which makes the Democrats your bag.
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Postby North Calaveras » Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:55 pm

Distruzio wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:My ideology is devoid of any set government type

It can be a democracy/dictatorship/monarchy/oligarchy whatever

as long as the social views are libertarian, the economy is highly capitalist, aggressive foreign policy and tighter border control, pro-gun, pro-gay marriage

i usually call myself a nationalist libertarian.


If you are concerned with finding the correct party representation, then you seem to lean more towards a relatively liberal fascist form of gov't. Which makes the Democrats your bag.


Every democrat I have met despises my views though
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Postby The Reasonable » Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:57 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
If you are concerned with finding the correct party representation, then you seem to lean more towards a relatively liberal fascist form of gov't. Which makes the Democrats your bag.


Every democrat I have met despises my views though


Distruzio doesn't know what he's talking about. You're a cross between a Log Cabin Republican and Libertarian...and yes I mostly despise your views, honestly enough.
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Postby North Calaveras » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:02 pm

The Reasonable wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
Every democrat I have met despises my views though


Distruzio doesn't know what he's talking about. You're a cross between a Log Cabin Republican and Libertarian...and yes I mostly despise your views, honestly enough.


The term "liberal fascism" struck a cord with me, sounds interesting
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Postby Aethrys » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:05 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
The Reasonable wrote:
Distruzio doesn't know what he's talking about. You're a cross between a Log Cabin Republican and Libertarian...and yes I mostly despise your views, honestly enough.


The term "liberal fascism" struck a cord with me, sounds interesting


Fascists are actually Socialists, don'tcha know.
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Postby North Calaveras » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:07 pm

Aethrys wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
The term "liberal fascism" struck a cord with me, sounds interesting


Fascists are actually Socialists, don'tcha know.


well im only trying to find something i identify with, a country can be fascist with a socialist or capitalist economy as far as I know
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Postby Moving Forward Inc » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:08 pm

North Calaveras wrote:My ideology is devoid of any set government type

It can be a democracy/dictatorship/monarchy/oligarchy whatever

as long as the social views are libertarian, the economy is highly capitalist, aggressive foreign policy and tighter border control, pro-gun, pro-gay marriage

i usually call myself a nationalist libertarian.

Nationalist libertarian isn't too bad a description.

Anyway, I think you would probably like Ron Paul. He calls himself a libertarian, but I think he would be better described as a "Paleo-conservative" or a "Small government conservative".
A lot of people from the libertarian side of the republican party also call themselves "Constitutionalist libertarians".
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Postby North California » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:08 pm

I'm a right winger... and I'm very lonely :(
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Postby Distruzio » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:09 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
If you are concerned with finding the correct party representation, then you seem to lean more towards a relatively liberal fascist form of gov't. Which makes the Democrats your bag.


Every democrat I have met despises my views though


On what basis? They tend to be nationalist warmongering state capitalists the same as Republicans. The only difference between you and the national Democratic platform is your stance on gun control.
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Postby North California » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:09 pm

Moving Forward Inc wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:My ideology is devoid of any set government type

It can be a democracy/dictatorship/monarchy/oligarchy whatever

as long as the social views are libertarian, the economy is highly capitalist, aggressive foreign policy and tighter border control, pro-gun, pro-gay marriage

i usually call myself a nationalist libertarian.

Nationalist libertarian isn't too bad a description.

Anyway, I think you would probably like Ron Paul. He calls himself a libertarian, but I think he would be better described as a "Paleo-conservative" or a "Small government conservative".
A lot of people from the libertarian side of the republican party also call themselves "Constitutionalist libertarians".



Ron Paul's foreign policy isn't really what North Calaveras is looking for.

I think she's looking more for a John Hunstman type of person.
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Postby Distruzio » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:10 pm

The Reasonable wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
Every democrat I have met despises my views though


Distruzio doesn't know what he's talking about.


On what basis?
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:10 pm

North California wrote:
Moving Forward Inc wrote:Nationalist libertarian isn't too bad a description.

Anyway, I think you would probably like Ron Paul. He calls himself a libertarian, but I think he would be better described as a "Paleo-conservative" or a "Small government conservative".
A lot of people from the libertarian side of the republican party also call themselves "Constitutionalist libertarians".



Ron Paul's foreign policy isn't really what North Calaveras is looking for.

I think she's looking more for a John Hunstman type of person.


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Postby The Reasonable » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:11 pm

Distruzio wrote:
The Reasonable wrote:
Distruzio doesn't know what he's talking about.


On what basis?


Most of his views are different from that of Democrats- whether it's his free-market-at-all-costs mentality, his tight border control, his pro-military, pro-death penalty, etc stances.
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Postby North California » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:11 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
The Reasonable wrote:
Distruzio doesn't know what he's talking about. You're a cross between a Log Cabin Republican and Libertarian...and yes I mostly despise your views, honestly enough.


The term "liberal fascism" struck a cord with me, sounds interesting



Liberal fascism is someone who is socially liberal, but very corporatist and Keynesian on the economy (basically, they want the economic model that Hitler used)
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Postby North California » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:12 pm

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
North California wrote:

Ron Paul's foreign policy isn't really what North Calaveras is looking for.

I think she's looking more for a John Hunstman type of person.


She?


I'm pretty sure North Calaveras is a she. I could be wrong though. If I am, I apologize.

But I know somewhere (I can't remember were), she stated she was female. Or I'm imagining this...
I am a staunch supporter of Austrian Theory economics as defined by Ludwig von Mises, and I consider myself to be a libertarian and I support Ron Paul Gary Johnson. Basically, I am a capitalist revolutionary
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.92

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Postby Distruzio » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:13 pm

The Reasonable wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
On what basis?


Most of his views are different from that of Democrats- whether it's his free-market-at-all-costs mentality, his tight border control, his pro-military, pro-death penalty, etc stances.


The only thing different is his stance on gun rights. Moreover, his emphasis on nationalism limits his capitalist perspective to state capitalism, which is what the Democrats support, despite the ridiculous accusations of socialism from the GOP.
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Postby North California » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:13 pm

Aethrys wrote:Because right wingers are old, and old people can't use computers.



The regions of Libertarian and Laizzes-Faireholm beg to differ.
I am a staunch supporter of Austrian Theory economics as defined by Ludwig von Mises, and I consider myself to be a libertarian and I support Ron Paul Gary Johnson. Basically, I am a capitalist revolutionary
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Postby North Calaveras » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:13 pm

North California wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
She?


I'm pretty sure North Calaveras is a she. I could be wrong though. If I am, I apologize.

But I know somewhere (I can't remember were), she stated she was female. Or I'm imagining this...


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Postby North Calaveras » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:14 pm

Distruzio wrote:
The Reasonable wrote:
Most of his views are different from that of Democrats- whether it's his free-market-at-all-costs mentality, his tight border control, his pro-military, pro-death penalty, etc stances.


The only thing different is his stance on gun rights. Moreover, his emphasis on nationalism limits his capitalist perspective to state capitalism, which is what the Democrats support, despite the ridiculous accusations of socialism from the GOP.


well i believe we should trade with other countrys, i just always want the US to be in a dominant position at all times, that's what i meant by aggressive either in war or trade.
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Postby North California » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:17 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
North California wrote:
I'm pretty sure North Calaveras is a she. I could be wrong though. If I am, I apologize.

But I know somewhere (I can't remember were), she stated she was female. Or I'm imagining this...


I'm a dude, but no worrys :D you might of heard me talking about guys, but that's cause im gay



I feel like such an asshole right now...

I'm really, really, really, really sorry. I honestly thought you were female. I most sincerely apologize.
I am a staunch supporter of Austrian Theory economics as defined by Ludwig von Mises, and I consider myself to be a libertarian and I support Ron Paul Gary Johnson. Basically, I am a capitalist revolutionary
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Postby Distruzio » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:20 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
The only thing different is his stance on gun rights. Moreover, his emphasis on nationalism limits his capitalist perspective to state capitalism, which is what the Democrats support, despite the ridiculous accusations of socialism from the GOP.


well i believe we should trade with other countrys, i just always want the US to be in a dominant position at all times, that's what i meant by aggressive either in war or trade.


I figured. Which is why I said Democratic is your gang.
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Postby North California » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:23 pm

Distruzio wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
well i believe we should trade with other countrys, i just always want the US to be in a dominant position at all times, that's what i meant by aggressive either in war or trade.


I figured. Which is why I said Democratic is your gang.


I think John Huntsman suits him better.
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Postby Silent Majority » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:29 pm

North California wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
I figured. Which is why I said Democratic is your gang.


I think John Huntsman suits him better.


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