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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:27 am

Wu Wei Shan wrote:
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Why do you want to drive cows and pigs into extinction? :(
Face it, You are a genocidal monster. I just wanna eat some meat.
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Personally, I thought it was funny.
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Postby The Mongrel Republic » Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:00 am

Genivaria wrote:Well no not literally ALL gone, but a new study has shown that in a few decades we'll have to radically alter our diets.

Food shortages could force world into vegetarianism, warn scientists
Water scarcity's effect on food production means radical steps will be needed to feed population expected to reach 9bn by 2050

Leading water scientists have issued one of the sternest warnings yet about global food supplies, saying that the world's population may have to switch almost completely to a vegetarian diet over the next 40 years to avoid catastrophic shortages.

Humans derive about 20% of their protein from animal-based products now, but this may need to drop to just 5% to feed the extra 2 billion people expected to be alive by 2050, according to research by some of the world's leading water scientists.

"There will not be enough water available on current croplands to produce food for the expected 9 billion population in 2050 if we follow current trends and changes towards diets common in western nations," the report by Malik Falkenmark and colleagues at the Stockholm International Water Institute (SIWI) said.

"There will be just enough water if the proportion of animal-based foods is limited to 5% of total calories and considerable regional water deficits can be met by a … reliable system of food trade."

Dire warnings of water scarcity limiting food production come as Oxfam and the UN prepare for a possible second global food crisis in five years. Prices for staples such as corn and wheat have risen nearly 50% on international markets since June, triggered by severe droughts in the US and Russia, and weak monsoon rains in Asia. More than 18 million people are already facing serious food shortages across the Sahel.

Oxfam has forecast that the price spike will have a devastating impact in developing countries that rely heavily on food imports, including parts of Latin America, North Africa and the Middle East. Food shortages in 2008 led to civil unrest in 28 countries.

Adopting a vegetarian diet is one option to increase the amount of water available to grow more food in an increasingly climate-erratic world, the scientists said. Animal protein-rich food consumes five to 10 times more water than a vegetarian diet. One third of the world's arable land is used to grow crops to feed animals. Other options to feed people include eliminating waste and increasing trade between countries in food surplus and those in deficit.

"Nine hundred million people already go hungry and 2 billion people are malnourished in spite of the fact that per capita food production continues to increase," they said. "With 70% of all available water being in agriculture, growing more food to feed an additional 2 billion people by 2050 will place greater pressure on available water and land."

The report is being released at the start of the annual world water conference in Stockholm, Sweden, where 2,500 politicians, UN bodies, non-governmental groups and researchers from 120 countries meet to address global water supply problems.

Competition for water between food production and other uses will intensify pressure on essential resources, the scientists said. "The UN predicts that we must increase food production by 70% by mid-century. This will place additional pressure on our already stressed water resources, at a time when we also need to allocate more water to satisfy global energy demand – which is expected to rise 60% over the coming 30 years – and to generate electricity for the 1.3 billion people currently without it," said the report.

Overeating, undernourishment and waste are all on the rise and increased food production may face future constraints from water scarcity.

"We will need a new recipe to feed the world in the future," said the report's editor, Anders Jägerskog.

A separate report from the International Water Management Institute (IWMI) said the best way for countries to protect millions of farmers from food insecurity in sub-Saharan Africa and south Asia was to help them invest in small pumps and simple technology, rather than to develop expensive, large-scale irrigation projects.

"We've witnessed again and again what happens to the world's poor – the majority of whom depend on agriculture for their livelihoods and already suffer from water scarcity – when they are at the mercy of our fragile global food system," said Dr Colin Chartres, the director general.

"Farmers across the developing world are increasingly relying on and benefiting from small-scale, locally-relevant water solutions. [These] techniques could increase yields up to 300% and add tens of billions of US dollars to household revenues across sub-Saharan Africa and south Asia."

Well.....shit. There goes my Whataburger. I think we need to quadruple the funding into research of Invitro Meat.


Already ahead of the curve. And I'm not eating meat that was cultured in a vat in some Soylent factory. The question now is, WTF do we all do now?
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Postby Norsklow » Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:02 am

The Mongrel Republic wrote:
Already ahead of the curve. And I'm not eating meat that was cultured in a vat in some Soylent factory. The question now is, WTF do we all do now?



Haven't you figured that out? We're going to put all the vegetarians into the stew-pot.
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Postby Purpelia » Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:06 am

The Mongrel Republic wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Well no not literally ALL gone, but a new study has shown that in a few decades we'll have to radically alter our diets.

Food shortages could force world into vegetarianism, warn scientists

Well.....shit. There goes my Whataburger. I think we need to quadruple the funding into research of Invitro Meat.


Already ahead of the curve. And I'm not eating meat that was cultured in a vat in some Soylent factory. The question now is, WTF do we all do now?

THIS: viewtopic.php?p=10806843#p10806843
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Postby The Mongrel Republic » Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:07 am

Norsklow wrote:
The Mongrel Republic wrote:
Already ahead of the curve. And I'm not eating meat that was cultured in a vat in some Soylent factory. The question now is, WTF do we all do now?



Haven't you figured that out? We're going to put all the vegetarians into the stew-pot.
Muahahahaha


I take that as a threat. Now I'll do to you what the Maori did to their enemies.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:08 am

Genivaria wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:You did not just bite the largest known land predator in the history of the world.

*flicks tail, sends Norsklow flying*

See you in China my puny little ornithomimid friend.

I''m sorry but...did you just call a Stegosaurus a....predator?

No. I called Spinosaurus a predator. And one would hope I know what I'm talking about seeing as I plan to study palaeontology at university.
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Already ahead of the curve. And I'm not eating meat that was cultured in a vat in some Soylent factory. The question now is, WTF do we all do now?



Haven't you figured that out? We're going to put all the vegetarians into the stew-pot.
Muahahahaha

You'll have to find your way back from China first.
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Postby Norsklow » Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:08 am

The Mongrel Republic wrote:
Norsklow wrote:

Haven't you figured that out? We're going to put all the vegetarians into the stew-pot.
Muahahahaha


I take that as a threat. Now I'll do to you what the Maori did to their enemies.


*chomp*
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Postby Meryuma » Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:55 am

:palm:

Of course they don't consider the idea that it could be a problem with our society's approach to agriculture. No, industrial monoculture is apparently the only method of food production. Vegetarians will act all vindicated but most of them miss the point too.
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Postby Libertarian California » Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:01 pm

I will eat my hot dog until the day I die!!!!!!!!

If that means actually eating my dog, then so be it!


lol.

I kid, I kid. I won't really eat a dog. But I do love meat though.
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Postby The Doofishatropolis of Doofishistan » Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:05 pm

Ya, good luck with that all you omnivores!

I was vegetarian before it was cool! lol hipster
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Postby Swith Witherward » Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:09 pm

I can't believe the amount of meat people in the US eat now.
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Postby Yewhohohopia » Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:10 pm

The Mongrel Republic wrote:
Norsklow wrote:

Haven't you figured that out? We're going to put all the vegetarians into the stew-pot.
Muahahahaha


I take that as a threat. Now I'll do to you what the Maori did to their enemies.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:10 pm

Swith Witherward wrote:I can't believe the amount of meat people in the US eat now.

I live here and it still astounds me sometimes.
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Postby Novaya Tselinoyarsk » Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:19 pm

Swith Witherward wrote:I can't believe the amount of meat people in the US eat now.


Why? It's delicious.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:20 pm

I'm already there.
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Postby Trollgaard » Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:24 pm

Genivaria wrote:Well no not literally ALL gone, but a new study has shown that in a few decades we'll have to radically alter our diets.

Food shortages could force world into vegetarianism, warn scientists
Water scarcity's effect on food production means radical steps will be needed to feed population expected to reach 9bn by 2050

Leading water scientists have issued one of the sternest warnings yet about global food supplies, saying that the world's population may have to switch almost completely to a vegetarian diet over the next 40 years to avoid catastrophic shortages.

Humans derive about 20% of their protein from animal-based products now, but this may need to drop to just 5% to feed the extra 2 billion people expected to be alive by 2050, according to research by some of the world's leading water scientists.

"There will not be enough water available on current croplands to produce food for the expected 9 billion population in 2050 if we follow current trends and changes towards diets common in western nations," the report by Malik Falkenmark and colleagues at the Stockholm International Water Institute (SIWI) said.

"There will be just enough water if the proportion of animal-based foods is limited to 5% of total calories and considerable regional water deficits can be met by a … reliable system of food trade."

Dire warnings of water scarcity limiting food production come as Oxfam and the UN prepare for a possible second global food crisis in five years. Prices for staples such as corn and wheat have risen nearly 50% on international markets since June, triggered by severe droughts in the US and Russia, and weak monsoon rains in Asia. More than 18 million people are already facing serious food shortages across the Sahel.

Oxfam has forecast that the price spike will have a devastating impact in developing countries that rely heavily on food imports, including parts of Latin America, North Africa and the Middle East. Food shortages in 2008 led to civil unrest in 28 countries.

Adopting a vegetarian diet is one option to increase the amount of water available to grow more food in an increasingly climate-erratic world, the scientists said. Animal protein-rich food consumes five to 10 times more water than a vegetarian diet. One third of the world's arable land is used to grow crops to feed animals. Other options to feed people include eliminating waste and increasing trade between countries in food surplus and those in deficit.

"Nine hundred million people already go hungry and 2 billion people are malnourished in spite of the fact that per capita food production continues to increase," they said. "With 70% of all available water being in agriculture, growing more food to feed an additional 2 billion people by 2050 will place greater pressure on available water and land."

The report is being released at the start of the annual world water conference in Stockholm, Sweden, where 2,500 politicians, UN bodies, non-governmental groups and researchers from 120 countries meet to address global water supply problems.

Competition for water between food production and other uses will intensify pressure on essential resources, the scientists said. "The UN predicts that we must increase food production by 70% by mid-century. This will place additional pressure on our already stressed water resources, at a time when we also need to allocate more water to satisfy global energy demand – which is expected to rise 60% over the coming 30 years – and to generate electricity for the 1.3 billion people currently without it," said the report.

Overeating, undernourishment and waste are all on the rise and increased food production may face future constraints from water scarcity.

"We will need a new recipe to feed the world in the future," said the report's editor, Anders Jägerskog.

A separate report from the International Water Management Institute (IWMI) said the best way for countries to protect millions of farmers from food insecurity in sub-Saharan Africa and south Asia was to help them invest in small pumps and simple technology, rather than to develop expensive, large-scale irrigation projects.

"We've witnessed again and again what happens to the world's poor – the majority of whom depend on agriculture for their livelihoods and already suffer from water scarcity – when they are at the mercy of our fragile global food system," said Dr Colin Chartres, the director general.

"Farmers across the developing world are increasingly relying on and benefiting from small-scale, locally-relevant water solutions. [These] techniques could increase yields up to 300% and add tens of billions of US dollars to household revenues across sub-Saharan Africa and south Asia."

Well.....shit. There goes my Whataburger. I think we need to quadruple the funding into research of Invitro Meat.


I refuse to believe it.

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Postby Divair » Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:25 pm

Novaya Tselinoyarsk wrote:
Swith Witherward wrote:I can't believe the amount of meat people in the US eat now.


Why? It's delicious.

I think he means Americans eat too much.

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Postby Gauthier » Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:26 pm

Yewhohohopia wrote:
AntiAntifa wrote:I think that it's fairly obvious to anyone with an I.Q above 100, that eating meat is only easy to justify if you cannot see the animal being butchered, rather you buy the meat from the butcher. I eat fish, because fish have a low ability to feel pain, and possess a tiny brain, so I feel no guilt about eating fish. Eating meat is cruel, but so what? Vegetarians want to make it illegal for you to be cruel, because they believe in equality and hate discrimination. I discriminate based on race, religion, gender, height, weight, beauty, intelligence, and say that whites posses more value than blacks and arabs, just as sheep and cows possess more value than fish, based on their brain size and intelligence.

Err what?


Fruits and vegetables don't scream so it's okay to cut them up and eat them. Plus never seen a veggie trying to lecture natural predators about the immorality of eating meat.
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Postby Rynatia » Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:29 pm

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Postby Trollgaard » Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:29 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Swith Witherward wrote:I can't believe the amount of meat people in the US eat now.

I live here and it still astounds me sometimes.


Really?

Its not a real meal unless there's some meat.

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Postby Gauthier » Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:30 pm

Ifreann wrote:That vat grown meat stuff wouldn't need fields. Let's throw more money at that until it's a viable thing.


And all it takes is one lab accident before the vat grown meat decides people are tasty animals.
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Postby Divair » Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:31 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Ifreann wrote:That vat grown meat stuff wouldn't need fields. Let's throw more money at that until it's a viable thing.


And all it takes is one lab accident before the vat grown meat decides people are tasty animals.

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Postby Terruana » Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:31 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Yewhohohopia wrote:Err what?


Fruits and vegetables don't scream so it's okay to cut them up and eat them. Plus never seen a veggie trying to lecture natural predators about the immorality of eating meat.


I never understood the "eating meat is immoral" line of thinking. It just seems to be based on willful ignorance.
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Postby Yewhohohopia » Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:33 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Yewhohohopia wrote:Err what?


Fruits and vegetables don't scream so it's okay to cut them up and eat them. Plus never seen a veggie trying to lecture natural predators about the immorality of eating meat.

Mmm more the white supremacist pescatarian thing being a bit "err".
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Postby Yewhohohopia » Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:34 pm

Trollgaard wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:I live here and it still astounds me sometimes.


Really?

Its not a real meal unless there's some meat.

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