The Anglosphere

[The Anglosphere]

Hello, NSG! As you can tell by my nation, I am, well, the Anglosphere.

For those who don't know what the Anglosphere is, it is all the English speaking nations of the world, with the most prominent ones being the UK, the US, Australia, Canada, and New Zealand (some people include Ireland and South Africa).

These nations all have similar backgrounds, have common laws, and common culture. Generally, these nation's will have each other's backs in times of crisis.

Personally, I'd like to see more integration among the Anglo nations. Obviously, some tweaks will need to be made the government's and militaries of the Anglo nations. But since the majority of them use a common system (parliamentary democracy), really, only Ireland, South Africa, and the US would need to change.

Or, each country can keep their local way of running things (that way, the US gets to stay as a republic, but is still in the Anglosphere). I actually happen to like this idea more, as it relieves the need to argue about whether the Anglosphere Union should be a parliamentary democracy, or a republican representative democracy. The law for the Anglosphere would be a sort of "English Common Law", with allowing local regions to take their own stances on things like gun ownership, drug use, and prostitution.

A good step to this would to give British, Canadians, Americans, Australians, and New Zealanders all common citizenship. I think that this would work out great and allow for easy commerce and mobility.

I'd love to see us sticking together. The Yanks, the Brits, the Kiwis, the Aussies, and the Canucks, all having each other's back, and looking out for each other.

So, NSG, what do you think of a Union of the Anglosphere? And should Ireland and South Africa be included?

[Maurepas]

Eh, meh. I could see something like it maybe with the Commonwealth Realms, but only if Britain does a 180 on the EU and the members actually want it.

I can't see the US ever being involved with such a thing, I think the UKUSA Agreement is probably the closest we're gonna get.

[The Anglosphere]

Eh, meh. I could see something like it maybe with the Commonwealth Realms, but only if Britain does a 180 on the EU and the members actually want it.

I can't see the US ever being involved with such a thing, I think the UKUSA Agreement is probably the closest we're gonna get.

Actually, in many cases, the US seems closer to Australia than it does to the UK. There is that ANZAUS treaty.

Also, I could see a possible union with the US and Canada (if the government's change so that they become compatible). Australia tried union with New Zealand, but sadly, the Kiwis rejected it.

[Maurepas]

Eh, meh. I could see something like it maybe with the Commonwealth Realms, but only if Britain does a 180 on the EU and the members actually want it.

I can't see the US ever being involved with such a thing, I think the UKUSA Agreement is probably the closest we're gonna get.

Actually, in many cases, the US seems closer to Australia than it does to the UK. There is that ANZAUS treaty.

Also, I could see a possible union with the US and Canada (if the government's change so that they become compatible). Australia tried union with New Zealand, but sadly, the Kiwis rejected it.

Nah, I don't see it, you'll never get the South to agree to even acknowledge Canada as anything but anathema to their existence.

[Avenio]

Blech. I'd rather not be a vassal to the Americans, thanks. (I'm Canadian, for the record)

EDIT: Also, what Tubbsalot said below. I'd rather not get more involved in American politics than I already am.

[The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace]

Actually, in many cases, the US seems closer to Australia than it does to the UK. There is that ANZAUS treaty.

Also, I could see a possible union with the US and Canada (if the government's change so that they become compatible). Australia tried union with New Zealand, but sadly, the Kiwis rejected it.

Nah, I don't see it, you'll never get the South to agree to even acknowledge Canada as anything but anathema to their existence.

"Keep those maple suckin', bear humpin', obama lovin' commies outta my country!"

[Cetacea]

What's wrong with the status quo? The countries involved already have open trade, easy travel arrangements, mutual military/crisis support and open media sharing. We don't need political union

and yeah the US is way closer to Oz, Oz definately wants to be the little america. (and the EU was the worse thing to happen to the UK)

[Crusader Jerusalem]

Most White/European Americans are German, followed by Irish, then Italian, and then English.

Why should America enter into some common union with Great Britain? Not to mention Britain is pretty much the only nation that ever invaded America, not just once, but repeatedly.


Ireland is primarily a Catholic nation while America is primarily Protestant.

Britain, Canada, New Zealand, and Australia are primarily Anglican while America has numerous Protestant denominations, with Anglican being only one of them and not amongst the largest.


Britain has more or less abolished all Common law influences in their legal system and now relies virtually entirely on civil law.

America and Britain are about as similar as Lebanon and Serbia... Okay, it isn't that bad, that's an exaggeration... Americans and British more or less speak the same language, have a similar historical culture, and have similar religious backgrounds, but there are tremendous differences.


Besides, with all of the problems America has, why should we be joined in a coalition of nations that have their own debt problems. We don't need to add their problems to our own.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

If the English-speaking nations form any sort of an official alliance, then the non-English speaking ones will form their own in response. There is no possible positive outcome to that scenario.

[Tubbsalot]

Eugh, I'd rather not get mixed up in the American mess.

[New Sapienta]

Your right, the New American EmpireAnglosphere would be a great idea.

[Nationalist State of Knox]

If they all submit to Great Britain as they have done previously then a see no harm in the New British Empire.

Then, the invasion of France begins.

[Luziyca]

No, thank you. I'd rather see Canada join the European Union and jump into the snake-pit is the euro crisis than to join a union with the United States.

[Dires]

If this ever happened, it would most likely have the US as the leader of this union but in all likeliness, with the US latino population, I don't see America stopping with just Anglo speaking nations and include Mexico. The most likeliest alliance in the near future will be between Australia and the US as China comes to rival the US militarily.

[The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace]

If this ever happened, it would most likely have the US as the leader of this union but in all likeliness, with the US latino population, I don't see America stopping with just Anglo speaking nations and include Mexico. The most likeliest alliance in the near future will be between Australia and the US as China comes to rival the US militarily.

That may depend on how much 1 child policies inevitably bite them in the ass.

[Dires]

Honestly, the one-child policies are extremely loose compared to in the past. Those in the countryside can be permitted to have more children, so can ethnic minorities, there are few to no forced abortions anymore, the only penalty in the situation is a fine (i.e, the rich don't have to worry about it). Overall, there has been recent talk in China about further loosening of the one child policy.

[Forster Keys]

Eugh, I'd rather not get mixed up in the American mess.

Yeah this.

[Crusader Jerusalem]

If this ever happened, it would most likely have the US as the leader of this union but in all likeliness, with the US latino population, I don't see America stopping with just Anglo speaking nations and include Mexico. The most likeliest alliance in the near future will be between Australia and the US as China comes to rival the US militarily.

Australia and America vs China you say?




A coalition of cripples cannot attack a powerful State which is determined, if necessary, to shed the last drop of its blood to maintain its existence...

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Eugh, I'd rather not get mixed up in the American mess.

Yeah, I can't say that I blame you. We'll figure this out. Sorry for the inconvenience, I know that you have your own issues to worry about.

[The Archregimancy]

Hello, NSG! As you can tell by my nation, I am, well, the Anglosphere.

For those who don't know what the Anglosphere is, it is all the English speaking nations of the world, with the most prominent ones being the UK, the US, Australia, Canada, and New Zealand (some people include Ireland and South Africa).

These nations all have similar backgrounds, have common laws, and common culture.

The idea that the UK and the USA have a common culture, or even a 'similar background' (at least since the 18th century), is a common misconception. Britain is a European country, and to anyone who isn't monolingual, Western Europe shares far more cultural and historical assumptions with Britain than the United States does.

I have, in the course of my life, lived in my native UK, Belgium, the USA, Iceland, and Australia.

Out of those countries, the single most culturally alien was the United States.

We share a language; we share very little else, as any rapid contrast between the policies of our conservative parties, the UK Conservative Party and the US Republican Party, should amply demonstrate.

Generally, these nation's will have each other's backs in times of crisis.

Except, say, during the Napoleonic Wars, the War of 1812, the US Civil War, WWI until the sinking of the Lusitania, the Suez Crisis, the Boer War, the Vietnam War, etc., etc., etc.

[The Archregimancy]

Most White/European Americans are German, followed by Irish, then Italian, and then English.

Why should America enter into some common union with Great Britain? Not to mention Britain is pretty much the only nation that ever invaded America, not just once, but repeatedly.

Ireland is primarily a Catholic nation while America is primarily Protestant.

I think you perhaps need to learn the difference between a plurality and a majority.

A plurality does not equal 'most'. The percentage of Americans claiming German descent is 15.2% (helpful Wiki article).

Also, while your characterisation of Ireland as 'primarily Catholic' is accurate, your characterisation of the United States is 'primarily Protestant' is misleading, especially given your early claim that a plurality equals a majority.

While it's true that Protestants form a majority (just - 51.3%; compare that to the 80% of residents of the Irish Republic who are Catholic) of Americans, 'Protestantism' isn't a single ideology or theology. The largest single Christian denomination in the United States is the Catholic Church, with more than 60 million members; the largest individual Protestant denomination is the Southern Baptist Convention, with some 16 million members (another helpful Wiki link)

Finally, in terms of your claim that Britain has 'invaded America, not just once, but repeatedly', assuming that here 'America' is a synonym for 'the United States' - as the OP assumes - I am hard pressed to think of any British 'invasion' of the US other than the period between 1812-1815, when the two nations were at war.

[L Ron Cupboard]

We might as well base it on tea drinking - any country that drinks more the 1.4 kg of tea per capita - welcome Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan. I wonder if they play cricket?

[Forsher]

Eh, meh. I could see something like it maybe with the Commonwealth Realms, but only if Britain does a 180 on the EU and the members actually want it.

I can't see the US ever being involved with such a thing, I think the UKUSA Agreement is probably the closest we're gonna get.

Actually, in many cases, the US seems closer to Australia than it does to the UK. There is that ANZAUS treaty.

Also, I could see a possible union with the US and Canada (if the government's change so that they become compatible). Australia tried union with New Zealand, but sadly, the Kiwis rejected it.

It's just ANZUS. And it works strangely because the US are slightly too proud.

NZ, Australia and the UK are similar enough. Chuck in Ireland and South Africa and it'd be quite fun. You can tell this because all these places play rugby quite devotedly. Most also play cricket (Ireland do but it's not as big as even in NZ) and soccer/football as they want us to call it now is picking up in Australia, NZ and South Africa.

[Norsklow]

Don't-want-it.

I want a UK which is a permanent component part of Europe, and a Europe which abstains from entangling annoying relationships with non-European countries with the exception of... why, the Anglosphere and similar nations with compatible cultures.
Eritrea or South Sudan? Why not? Algeria? No way.

A Europe which owes more of its heritage and policy to the Holy Roman Empire or even Napoleon than to the League of Nations and similar soggy Internationalist ideas.

[Costa Alegria]

We might as well base it on tea drinking - any country that drinks more the 1.4 kg of tea per capita - welcome Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan. I wonder if they play cricket?

PETA might have a problem using a goat's head for the ball.