Is the South racist?

[Dick]

I recently heard of a woman, a black woman, who was beaten to death by the LAPD. This made me wonder, what with the LAPD's history of dealing with minorities, if the South is actually as racist as people say it is. I mean, this is Los Angeles, not exactly Atlanta or Birmingham. When do you hear about women being kicked in the crotch and bloodied by the people who are supposed to uphold the law in the infamously racist South? From those who have been there (I haven't), is the South any more racist than the rest of the United States?

The south wasn't as racist as their governments were. How do you think slavery was possible? By the government. How was the racist laws of past times perpetuated? Governments. Without the governments a slave would just run off with no one to bring him back. I just think too many times people overlook the institutions, to instead point fingers at the people in general. Why? because many of the protestors were socialists... it doesn't sound as nice to say the government is wrong. It's better for them to label an entire population...

[Botun]

The poll is such bullshit and just shows garbage a lot of NSers really are

the same people who say the south are racist are probably the same people who scream " middle easterners aren't religous extremists!"

They aren't, NC. Some are. But so are some Americans.

[North Calaveras]

The poll is such bullshit and just shows garbage a lot of NSers really are

the same people who say the south are racist are probably the same people who scream " middle easterners aren't religous extremists!"

They aren't, NC. Some are. But so are some Americans.

I never said they were, but for over 50% to utter that bullshit on the poll is really ridiculous

[Maurepas]

I have seen just as much racism in New York I I ever saw in Texas.

I think it's simply a different kind of racism. As a general rule it will be actual hatred of the people in New York or Los Angeles.

In the South it's the perception that the government favors Minorities over Whites and enforces a systemic bias in that regard. Which ties into my theory that it stems from a perceived "loss" in the Civil Rights Movement.

[The Reasonable]

A few posts up some one mentioned Jim Crow laws and that reminded me of this Completely Off Topic story. But me and a freind were having a conversation about Vote Restrictions and such and we ultimately came to the conclusion that if any ever wanted to restict voting to the minorities, All they would need to do is ask political platform questions and see if they can write and read.

I have a feeling far fewer people would be voting but o.o in all honesty racist intent aside that law made sense, Do you really want the uneducated masses having any imput what so ever in politics? I know i don't thats why we end with people Like Rommney running for president <.< and probably getting elected.

I agree. Bringing back the literacy test wouldn't be such a bad thing- the old literacy tests were just really difficult civics and government (about as hard as AP Gov) tests. And it wouldn't just disenfranchise minorities- it would disenfranchise the vast majority of the whites also. And with a more educated society voting, we'll see a pretty big leftward shift in US politics. The thing was that back in the Jim Crow days, the test was administered ONLY to minorities most of the time.

I have a feeling far fewer people would be voting but o.o in all honesty racist intent aside that law made sense, Do you really want the uneducated masses having any imput what so ever in politics? I know i don't thats why we end with people Like Rommney running for president <.< and probably getting elected.

Yes, I would like everyone to hold equal power to vote. Because the alternative is to institute a voting system which preserves the existing power structure. After all, who gets to write the political platform test? How is it to be administered and scored? As soon as you start wrenching the power of the vote away from the "uneducated masses", the inevitable question arises: who gets to decide what people qualify as members of the "uneducated masses"? Is an MIT professor who pays little attention to the issues too stupid to vote? Or what about an illiterate who pays very careful attention to the issues?

There's too much opportunity for a tight concentration of power in a tilted voting system such as this. Of course, to someone who rejects egalitarianism that's not a problem in the least, but I'm not among those who do.

Zeon, eh?

Tilted towards what? A more educated electorate? And it's a civics and government test, so the MIT professor who doesn't pay attention to the issues would fail. And 99% of the US population is literate, so actual illiteracy won't be an issue. It could be a multiple choice test graded by machine- whoever gets above a certain score can vote. It's not THAT difficult to implement.

[The Reasonable]

I recently heard of a woman, a black woman, who was beaten to death by the LAPD. This made me wonder, what with the LAPD's history of dealing with minorities, if the South is actually as racist as people say it is. I mean, this is Los Angeles, not exactly Atlanta or Birmingham. When do you hear about women being kicked in the crotch and bloodied by the people who are supposed to uphold the law in the infamously racist South? From those who have been there (I haven't), is the South any more racist than the rest of the United States?

The south wasn't as racist as their governments were. How do you think slavery was possible? By the government. How was the racist laws of past times perpetuated? Governments. Without the governments a slave would just run off with no one to bring him back. I just think too many times people overlook the institutions, to instead point fingers at the people in general. Why? because many of the protestors were socialists... it doesn't sound as nice to say the government is wrong. It's better for them to label an entire population...

And why would the socialist protesters blame the population? After all, don't they want control by the proletariat, the masses? MLK died not in a civil rights protest but in a strike for a garbagemen's union, many of whose members were white. There were good amounts of white protesters in the civil rights crowd. Just because the leaders were often socialist doesn't mean that they blamed all white people for their problems. Their action actually was against the southern state governments and to persuade the federal government to pay attention.

[Sphyxia]

The poll is such bullshit and just shows garbage a lot of NSers really are

the same people who say the south are racist are probably the same people who scream " middle easterners aren't religous extremists!"

Wait, what? Who's being extremely bigoted here, exactly?

[North Calaveras]

The poll is such bullshit and just shows garbage a lot of NSers really are

the same people who say the south are racist are probably the same people who scream " middle easterners aren't religous extremists!"

Wait, what? Who's being extremely bigoted here, exactly?

why are over 50 percent of people voting the south is rascist...

[Sphyxia]

Wait, what? Who's being extremely bigoted here, exactly?

why are over 50 percent of people voting the south is rascist...

Why are you being a hypocrite and going on to say that those from the Middle East are all religious extremists?

To answer your question, perhaps because, in common perception, the south is somewhat more racist than the remainder of the United States?

[North Calaveras]

why are over 50 percent of people voting the south is rascist...

Why are you being a hypocrite and going on to say that those from the Middle East are all religious extremists?

To answer your question, perhaps because, in common perception, the south is somewhat more racist than the remainder of the United States?

Can we agree that is pretty damn ignorant to say "the south is racist" and even scarier that over fifty perfect of the people actually voted that on the poll

EDIT: not being a hypocrite(nor did i say that they are in fact extremist), beacuse i don't think that, but what if I stuck a poll up that said " Is the middle east extremist?"

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Why are you being a hypocrite and going on to say that those from the Middle East are all religious extremists?

To answer your question, perhaps because, in common perception, the south is somewhat more racist than the remainder of the United States?

Can we agree that is pretty damn ignorant to say "the south is racist" and even scarier that over fifty perfect of the people actually voted that on the poll

I sometimes wonder if this has anything to do with the latent dislike between Northerners and Southerners. I've seen it manifest itself here on the forum several times. In which case, damn. Let bygones be bygones. Pass the page. The Civil War has been over for more than a century.

I live in the South and I have never encountered any of the shit some people attribute to it. Does it has racist people? Fuck yes. But the North does too.

A fin de cuentas (as we say in Spanish), I agree that it is ignorant to say 'the South is racist'.

((This wasn't aimed at you personally.))

[North Calaveras]

Can we agree that is pretty damn ignorant to say "the south is racist" and even scarier that over fifty perfect of the people actually voted that on the poll

I sometimes wonder if this has anything to do with the latent dislike between Northerners and Southerners. I've seen it manifest itself here on the forum several times. In which case, damn. Let bygones be bygones. Pass the page. The Civil War has been over for more than a century.

I live in the South and I have never encountered any of the shit some people attribute to it. Does it has racist people? Fuck yes. But the North does too.

A fin de cuentas (as we say in Spanish), I agree that it is ignorant to say 'the South is racist'.

((This wasn't aimed at you personally.))

I agree but you see time and time again many people on NS jumping to defend islam in the middle east and say that there are far more moderates and such yet this shit comes along and over fifty percent vote yes...hypocrisy on them.

oh and inb4 Guather shows up " you just think muslims are ebil!"

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I sometimes wonder if this has anything to do with the latent dislike between Northerners and Southerners. I've seen it manifest itself here on the forum several times. In which case, damn. Let bygones be bygones. Pass the page. The Civil War has been over for more than a century.

I live in the South and I have never encountered any of the shit some people attribute to it. Does it has racist people? Fuck yes. But the North does too.

A fin de cuentas (as we say in Spanish), I agree that it is ignorant to say 'the South is racist'.

((This wasn't aimed at you personally.))

I agree but you see time and time again many people on NS jumping to defend islam in the middle east and say that there are far more moderates and such yet this shit comes along and over fifty percent vote yes...hypocrisy on them.

I can't judge the entire Muslim world (Middle East) on the actions of a few. Extremists are everywhere, even in the US. But yes, before one labels a place 'racist', I think it's a good idea to look around and make sure that our own place isn't colored by the same sins we're accusing others of.

A more accurate question would be: are there racist people in the South? The answer is yes. Just like there are racist people in the West Coast, the East Coast, Mid-West and North.

[North Calaveras]

I agree but you see time and time again many people on NS jumping to defend islam in the middle east and say that there are far more moderates and such yet this shit comes along and over fifty percent vote yes...hypocrisy on them.

I can't judge the entire Muslim world (Middle East) on the actions of a few. Extremists are everywhere, even in the US. But yes, before one labels a place 'racist', I think it's a good idea to look around and make sure that our own place isn't colored by the same sins we're accusing others of.

A more accurate question would be: are there racist people in the South? The answer is yes. Just like there are racist people in the West Coast, the East Coast, Mid-West and North.

agreed, im just pointing out hypocrisy that's all there are rascists and extremists everywhere, its just disturbing to see so many people voting yes.

note: I think everyone is a little bit rascist.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I can't judge the entire Muslim world (Middle East) on the actions of a few. Extremists are everywhere, even in the US. But yes, before one labels a place 'racist', I think it's a good idea to look around and make sure that our own place isn't colored by the same sins we're accusing others of.

A more accurate question would be: are there racist people in the South? The answer is yes. Just like there are racist people in the West Coast, the East Coast, Mid-West and North.

agreed, im just pointing out hypocrisy that's all there are rascists and extremists everywhere, its just disturbing to see so many people voting yes.

note: I think everyone is a little bit rascist.

People hold grudges for a very long time. A very long long time. And they continue to hold the grudge, at times not even knowing why they do or how did it start. I'm reminded of the McCoys and that other family, can't remember the name. They were feuding for decades over some thing or other.

I'm a foreigner in a foreign land. Some may even say I have no right to point these things out. That I may not understand because I'm an American. But racism is a type of hate that, as you well said in the end, people share.

[North Calaveras]

agreed, im just pointing out hypocrisy that's all there are rascists and extremists everywhere, its just disturbing to see so many people voting yes.

note: I think everyone is a little bit rascist.

People hold grudges for a very long time. A very long long time. And they continue to hold the grudge, at times not even knowing why they do or how did it start. I'm reminded of the McCoys and that other family, can't remember the name. They were feuding for decades over some thing or other.

I'm a foreigner in a foreign land. Some may even say I have no right to point these things out. That I may not understand because I'm an American. But racism is a type of hate that, as you well said in the end, people share.

now were getting somewhere, thank you for your logical responses.

[Capitalist Running Dogs]

I recently heard of a woman, a black woman, who was beaten to death by the LAPD. This made me wonder, what with the LAPD's history of dealing with minorities, if the South is actually as racist as people say it is. I mean, this is Los Angeles, not exactly Atlanta or Birmingham. When do you hear about women being kicked in the crotch and bloodied by the people who are supposed to uphold the law in the infamously racist South? From those who have been there (I haven't), is the South any more racist than the rest of the United States?

LA is not the South as Americans understand it.

That being said, the South is no more racist than any other place on Earth. The most vivid demonstration of racism I have ever experiences took place in London when I was consulting. It was shocking and what was even more shocking was that this was a business meeting and half the room was nodding in agreement with the racist prick who went off. So. Is Britain racist? I don't think it is but it is a demonstration of the narrow-minded thinking involved in asking it.

[Nordengrund]

The South is no more racist than any other place. Yes, we Southerners tend to be religious folk and politically conservative, but we no longer discriminate against race. Down here, blacks and whites are best friends.

[Coccygia]

The South is no more racist than any other place. Yes, we Southerners tend to be religious folk and politically conservative, but we no longer discriminate against race. Down here, blacks and whites are best friends.

And interrracial dating is regarded as against the Bible by many.

[Nidaria]

The South is no more racist than any other place. Yes, we Southerners tend to be religious folk and politically conservative, but we no longer discriminate against race. Down here, blacks and whites are best friends.

And interrracial dating is regarded as against the Bible by many.

Mind backing that up? I sincerely doubt that.