Is the South racist?

[Ifreann]

What's the difference in labelling liberals as bigots and labelling someone with a large nose a Jew?

The poll. (which is now at 51% yes btw.)

The anonymous poll, you mean? Do you imagine that only liberals are voting yes and only conservatives are voting no? The poll that, moreover, is about one's personal experiences in the South.

[United Dependencies]

I wouldn't say it's the South that is racist, but it is the rural areas that have a tendency towards racism.

[Aquophia]

The poll. (which is now at 51% yes btw.)

The anonymous poll, you mean? Do you imagine that only liberals are voting yes and only conservatives are voting no? The poll that, moreover, is about one's personal experiences in the South.

Do you imagine that there are actually conservatives on NSG ? In all seriousness, the few right leaners on this website don't have enough push to determine the outcome of these polls. Polls in the past have shown multiple times that NSG is largely a population of leftists. That's why I tend to look at this place to see the behavior patterns of the leftist mind. The fact that this place is anonymous also helps with this because we all know anonymity encourages brutal honesty.

EDIT:50.1% no now. Slight win for liberals I guess.

[Samuraikoku]

The anonymous poll, you mean? Do you imagine that only liberals are voting yes and only conservatives are voting no? The poll that, moreover, is about one's personal experiences in the South.

Do you imagine that there are actually conservatives on NSG ? In all seriousness, the few right leaners on this website don't have enough push to determine the outcome of these polls. Polls in the past have shown multiple times that NSG is largely a population of leftists. That's why I tend to look at this place to see the behavior patterns of the leftist mind. The fact that this place is anonymous also helps with this because we all know anonymity encourages brutal honesty.

Be careful, Aquophia. Few can withstand an insight into the Tyranid liberal hivemind. *nods*

"As I looked into its dead black eyes, I saw the terrible sentience it had in place of a soul. Behind that was the steel will of its leader. Further still I could feel its primogenitor coldly assessing me from the void. And looking back from the furthest recesses of the alien's mind... I can only describe it as an immortal hunger. It is this we cannot kill."

[Ifreann]

The anonymous poll, you mean? Do you imagine that only liberals are voting yes and only conservatives are voting no? The poll that, moreover, is about one's personal experiences in the South.

Do you imagine that there are actually conservatives on NSG ?

There's also no women on the internets, right?

In all seriousness, the few right leaners on this website don't have enough push to determine the outcome of these polls. Polls in the past have shown multiple times that NSG is largely a population of leftists. That's why I tend to look at this place to see the behavior patterns of the leftist mind. The fact that this place is anonymous also helps with this because we all know anonymity encourages brutal honesty.

I can tell you're not a statistician.

[Suidwes-Afrika]

Antarctica, racist?

[Aquophia]

Antarctica, racist?

It is white for a reason, afterall.

[Ifreann]

Antarctica, racist?

You'll struggle to find a single tolerant, open minded person in Antarctica.

[Suidwes-Afrika]

Antarctica, racist?

You'll struggle to find a single tolerant, open minded person in Antarctica.

Believable, considering that I have a close acquaintance who spent the winter months there. A sole week in a frozen desert is guaranteed to make almost anybody cynical beyond belief.

[Sphyxia]

Antarctica, racist?

You'll struggle to find a single tolerant, open minded person in Antarctica.

I hear that penguins are quite tolerant. I mean, look at 'em, they're all interracial!

[Ifreann]

You'll struggle to find a single tolerant, open minded person in Antarctica.

I hear that penguins are quite tolerant. I mean, look at 'em, they're all interracial!

Yeah, but they're not people.

[Sphyxia]

I hear that penguins are quite tolerant. I mean, look at 'em, they're all interracial!

Yeah, but they're not people.

Tell that to the penguins...

[Suidwes-Afrika]

Yeah, but they're not people.

Tell that to the penguins...

Penguins will literally march up to a stranger without hesitation and stare him boldly in the face.

[Telchak]

Like everywhere else in the world, some people are racist and some aren't. Probably more than the rest of the USA, but still just a very vocal minority of people.

[Euronion]

I'm surprised no one is mentioning this. Why do we think of the South as racist? Civil War, Jim Crow, ect. but the main reason, the root of it can be traced back to slavery. To assume that the South is still racist because of slavery is to also assume the North would still be racist because of slavery. While the South bought slaves and used them on plantations, it was the North, harbors such as Boston and Philadelphia who serviced the ships of slave traders and even constructed them, the South had no such infrastructure or expertise, so in reality the North's part in slavery was in many ways worse than the Souths for the Middle Passage is often described as one of the worst experiences for an African Slave. There are racists in the North and there are racists in the South, but to generalize an entire vernacular region for being racist because of one police beating that didn't even happen in the South (I mean seriously, LA is in California, California fought FOR the Union during the Civil War, and that was when practically everyone was racist, including Abraham Lincoln) is simply preposterous.

[Euronion]

Like everywhere else in the world, some people are racist and some aren't. Probably more than the rest of the USA, but still just a very vocal minority of people.

This. I don't ever see a large march of people saying "We are moderates" I only see news stories and marches of people who are generally extremists, while they are a minority, how vocal they are may make them seem a lot larger than they are.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

I hear that penguins are quite tolerant. I mean, look at 'em, they're all interracial!

Yeah, but they're not people.

RACIST! Penguins are people too!

Not so much racist as unduly prejudiced against those from the North and the UK's Celtic nations.

My home country of Scotland is racist towards the English. Ignorance mostly.

And vice versa. Ignorance mostly, although separatism terrifies a lot of English people.

[Socialdemokraterne]

The current ratio of this poll is pretty much neck and neck. That's a good chunk of human beings who believe that racism is determined by geographical location.

...that's what my data and statistical analyses show, that there is a statistically significant difference in the mean number of racially-motivated hate groups in the former Confederate states and the Union states, which is how I defined "the North" and "the South".

Feel free to present your own data analyses in an effort to refute my findings, but cease in this unproductive boo-hoo-hooing about how people ascribing to the various schools of the left are so damn mean all the time. I may have made a mistake somewhere along the way in my analysis, but all of my claims are based on hard data.

[Socialdemokraterne]

Can definitely see some regional racial hatred spikes here and there. Idaho and Montana in the Mountain states, Maine in New England. While Oregon and Washington seem to level out with everyone around them, the high value of Cali and Florida vanishes while West Virginia spikes massively. And The Georgia/Mississippi/Alabama/Louisiana deep south showing a definite trend.

If you haven't already, could you please test the data for significance between the sub-regions you've defined? It'd be very interesting to see what statistical trends emerge. If you have conducted an analysis already, could you please tell us which one and what states you included in each sub-regional analysis?

[The Zeonic States]

A few posts up some one mentioned Jim Crow laws and that reminded me of this Completely Off Topic story. But me and a freind were having a conversation about Vote Restrictions and such and we ultimately came to the conclusion that if any ever wanted to restict voting to the minorities, All they would need to do is ask political platform questions and see if they can write and read.

I have a feeling far fewer people would be voting but o.o in all honesty racist intent aside that law made sense, Do you really want the uneducated masses having any imput what so ever in politics? I know i don't thats why we end with people Like Rommney running for president <.< and probably getting elected.

[Socialdemokraterne]

I have a feeling far fewer people would be voting but o.o in all honesty racist intent aside that law made sense, Do you really want the uneducated masses having any imput what so ever in politics? I know i don't thats why we end with people Like Rommney running for president <.< and probably getting elected.

Yes, I would like everyone to hold equal power to vote. Because the alternative is to institute a voting system which preserves the existing power structure. After all, who gets to write the political platform test? How is it to be administered and scored? As soon as you start wrenching the power of the vote away from the "uneducated masses", the inevitable question arises: who gets to decide what people qualify as members of the "uneducated masses"? Is an MIT professor who pays little attention to the issues too stupid to vote? Or what about an illiterate who pays very careful attention to the issues?

There's too much opportunity for a tight concentration of power in a tilted voting system such as this. Of course, to someone who rejects egalitarianism that's not a problem in the least, but I'm not among those who do.

Zeon, eh?

[The Zeonic States]

I have a feeling far fewer people would be voting but o.o in all honesty racist intent aside that law made sense, Do you really want the uneducated masses having any imput what so ever in politics? I know i don't thats why we end with people Like Rommney running for president <.< and probably getting elected.

Yes, I would like everyone to hold equal power to vote. Because the alternative is to institute a voting system which preserves the existing power structure. After all, who gets to write the political platform test? How is it to be administered and scored? As soon as you start wrenching the power of the vote away from the "uneducated masses", the inevitable question arises: who gets to decide what people qualify as members of the "uneducated masses"? Is an MIT professor who pays little attention to the issues too stupid to vote? Or what about an illiterate who pays very careful attention to the issues?

There's too much opportunity for a tight concentration of power in a tilted voting system such as this. Of course, to someone who rejects egalitarianism that's not a problem in the least, but I'm not among those who do.

Zeon, eh?

I think having basic education in a nation with Mandatory Public School is nothing at all to ask to be honest in terms of allowing them to vote.

And Yes Sieg Zeon

[Prussia-Steinbach]

A few posts up some one mentioned Jim Crow laws and that reminded me of this Completely Off Topic story. But me and a freind were having a conversation about Vote Restrictions and such and we ultimately came to the conclusion that if any ever wanted to restict voting to the minorities, All they would need to do is ask political platform questions and see if they can write and read.

I have a feeling far fewer people would be voting but o.o in all honesty racist intent aside that law made sense, Do you really want the uneducated masses having any imput what so ever in politics? I know i don't thats why we end with people Like Rommney running for president <.< and probably getting elected.

You speak what I have been trying to explain all along.

[North Calaveras]

The poll is such bullshit and just shows garbage a lot of NSers really are

the same people who say the south are racist are probably the same people who scream " middle easterners aren't religous extremists!"

[Botun]

Well, I'd say there are racist people everywhere you go. It's not a matter of location, it may not even be a matter of culture, per se, but exposure. My home of Idaho is about as far north as you can get without becoming Canada. Yet it's also a rural, predominately white state, with blacks in particular being a very small minority. Racism is sadly quite common, and further up North you can be...er...lucky enough to meet skinheads and Neo-Nazis. Even in the slightly more progressive Southeast portion where I live, you'll find some, though you usually have to get them drunk for them to openly admit it.