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Postby Zaras » Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:40 am

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Fucking Internet Tough Guy you are. Why don't you move to Somalia then? They're not "pussys", as you'd put it.
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The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.

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Postby Vestr-Norig » Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:41 am

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Postby Brassica Primes Cabbage Followers » Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:45 am

To expand on my previous post; Centrism and any of it's variants (centre-left, centre-right, moderates, etc). Regardless, pure Centrism is the worst. Absolutely horrifying in it's approach.
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Postby Vestr-Norig » Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:48 am

Brassica Primes Cabbage Followers wrote:To expand on my previous post; Centrism and any of it's variants (centre-left, centre-right, moderates, etc). Regardless, pure Centrism is the worst. Absolutely horrifying in it's approach.

How can centrism be the worst? Surely you must be on either side of the political centrum, and wouldn't it naturally, for you, be the opposite position of yours that you would think as the worst, not the one in the middle between you and the other side?
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Postby Aloes » Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:49 am

Neo Nazism or Anarchy.

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Postby Brassica Primes Cabbage Followers » Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:51 am

At least the far-right are attempting to truly achieve something. The majority of them don't seem to be for the centrist goal of maintaining stagnancy. Additionally, the far-right (and fascists) are honest in their intentions and their reasons, while Centrists rely EXCLUSIVELY (I would consider Leninists to be left leaning centrists) on manipulation, lies, and political/social bodies that have false intentions.

Edit: Nazis blame the Jews because they truly and utterly believe them to be the cause. The claims of Centrists are solely for the sake of herding the cattle that are the people, feigning minimal change in the hopes of alluring either the right or left leaning, purely to achieve nothing.
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Postby Norsklow » Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:54 am

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Postby Vestr-Norig » Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:02 pm

Brassica Primes Cabbage Followers wrote:At least the far-right are attempting to truly achieve something. The majority of them don't seem to be for the centrist goal of maintaining stagnancy. Additionally, the far-right (and fascists) are honest in their intentions and their reasons, while Centrists rely EXCLUSIVELY (the far-left and far-right are guilty of this too, just not to such a degree) on manipulation, lies, and political/social bodies that have false intentions.

Edit: Nazis blame the Jews because they truly and utterly believe them to be the cause. The claims of Centrists are solely for the sake of herding the cattle that are the people, feigning minimal change in the hopes of alluring either the right or left leaning, purely to achieve nothing.

Heared of the Norwegian political parties the Centre Party and Christian Democratic Party? Both centrist parties with very clear goals. and neither of them wants status quo. The first party works for making the situation for the rural areas and the farmer's and fishermen better, as well as for decentralization, while the other to reintroduce Christian values into the society (for example in school), and retain morality in society. No more socalled manipulation than other parties, or to gain power purely for the sake of the power. No, neither of them belongs to the bigger and well-knowned ideologies, but they clearly has ideological goals they want to achive, just as anybody else.
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Postby The Mindset Reborn » Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:07 pm

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Postby Los Malvinas Son Peruano » Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:25 pm

Brassica Primes Cabbage Followers wrote:At least the far-right are attempting to truly achieve something. The majority of them don't seem to be for the centrist goal of maintaining stagnancy. Additionally, the far-right (and fascists) are honest in their intentions and their reasons, while Centrists rely EXCLUSIVELY (I would consider Leninists to be left leaning centrists) on manipulation, lies, and political/social bodies that have false intentions.

Edit: Nazis blame the Jews because they truly and utterly believe them to be the cause. The claims of Centrists are solely for the sake of herding the cattle that are the people, feigning minimal change in the hopes of alluring either the right or left leaning, purely to achieve nothing.

I'm centrist and where do I lie about?

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Postby The Agnostic Theocracy Anaxes » Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:33 pm

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Postby Cameroi » Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:33 pm

that which ships everyone who refuses to lie to themselves, off to slave death camps. this is generally, i'm no authority on how accurately, but generally, it seems to be known as fascism.
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Postby Kushtor » Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:36 pm

Objectivism, Zionism, "Political Correctness", transhumanism/singularitarianism and religious fundamentalism (esp. Abrahamic religions) are all up there. Also any ideology based around the idea that "[Group] has been oppressed, therefore they must now be given special privileges and pardoned for their wrongs". And let's not forget Moral Relativism!
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Postby Yandere Schoolgirls » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:36 pm

Communism and socialism are the most terrifying ideologies for me. Just look at how they have bogged down progress for so many countries, and how many have died as a direct result of their policies.

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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:37 pm

Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:Communism and socialism are the most terrifying ideologies for me. Just look at how they have bogged down progress for so many countries, and how many have died as a direct result of their policies.

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Postby Zaras » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:39 pm

Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:Communism and socialism are the most terrifying ideologies for me. Just look at how they have bogged down progress for so many countries, and how many have died as a direct result of their policies.


You're confusing communism with Stalinism again. :roll:
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Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.

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Postby Magmia » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:45 pm

Cameroi wrote:that which ships everyone who refuses to lie to themselves, off to slave death camps. this is generally, i'm no authority on how accurately, but generally, it seems to be known as fascism.

Mussolini: No
Hitler: Yes
Kim Jong-Il and Kim Il-Sung: Yes
Stalin: Yes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_camp

Note that the only Fascist is Hitler. That vast majority are "Communist (Not saying they were Communist, but that is the label they used for themselves)."

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Postby Saluterre » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:49 pm

Magmia wrote:
Cameroi wrote:that which ships everyone who refuses to lie to themselves, off to slave death camps. this is generally, i'm no authority on how accurately, but generally, it seems to be known as fascism.

Mussolini: No
Hitler: Yes
Kim Jong-Il and Kim Il-Sung: Yes
Stalin: Yes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_camp

Note that the only Fascist is Hitler. That vast majority are "Communist (Not saying they were Communist, but that is the label they used for themselves)."


You wouldn't consider Mussolini a fascist?
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Postby Magmia » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:51 pm

Saluterre wrote:
Magmia wrote:Mussolini: No
Hitler: Yes
Kim Jong-Il and Kim Il-Sung: Yes
Stalin: Yes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_camp

Note that the only Fascist is Hitler. That vast majority are "Communist (Not saying they were Communist, but that is the label they used for themselves)."


You wouldn't consider Mussolini a fascist?

I do, and he was, but I don't remember reading anything that says he had death or labor camps set up in Italy.

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Postby Jolleus » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:54 pm

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Postby Zaras » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:55 pm

Magmia wrote:
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You wouldn't consider Mussolini a fascist?

I do, and he was, but I don't remember reading anything that says he had death or labor camps set up in Italy.


I remember his acolytes murdering Giacomo Matteotti. And this:

For security of the regime, Mussolini advocated complete state authority, and created the Milizia Volontaria per la Sicurezza Nazionale or National Security Volunteer Militia in 1923, which are commonly referred to as the Blackshirts for the colour of their uniforms. Most of the Blackshirts were members from the Fasci di Combattimento. A secret police force called the Organizzazione di Vigilanza Repressione dell'Antifascismo (Organization for Vigilance and Repression of Anti-Fascism) or OVRA was created in 1927. It was led by Arturo Bocchini to crack down on opponents of the regime and Mussolini (there had been several near-miss assassination attempts on Mussolini's life in his early years in power). This force was effective, but unlike the Schutzstaffel (SS) in Nazi Germany or the NKVD of the Soviet Union, the OVRA caused far fewer deaths of political opponents. However Fascists methods of repression were cruel which included physically forcing opponents of Fascism to swallow castor oil which would cause severe diarrhea and dehydration, leaving the victim in a painful and physically debilitated state which would sometimes would result in death.[116][117][118][119]
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Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.

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Postby Trefeqia » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:58 pm

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Postby Magmia » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:59 pm

Zaras wrote:
Magmia wrote:I do, and he was, but I don't remember reading anything that says he had death or labor camps set up in Italy.


I remember his acolytes murdering Giacomo Matteotti. And this:

For security of the regime, Mussolini advocated complete state authority, and created the Milizia Volontaria per la Sicurezza Nazionale or National Security Volunteer Militia in 1923, which are commonly referred to as the Blackshirts for the colour of their uniforms. Most of the Blackshirts were members from the Fasci di Combattimento. A secret police force called the Organizzazione di Vigilanza Repressione dell'Antifascismo (Organization for Vigilance and Repression of Anti-Fascism) or OVRA was created in 1927. It was led by Arturo Bocchini to crack down on opponents of the regime and Mussolini (there had been several near-miss assassination attempts on Mussolini's life in his early years in power). This force was effective, but unlike the Schutzstaffel (SS) in Nazi Germany or the NKVD of the Soviet Union, the OVRA caused far fewer deaths of political opponents. However Fascists methods of repression were cruel which included physically forcing opponents of Fascism to swallow castor oil which would cause severe diarrhea and dehydration, leaving the victim in a painful and physically debilitated state which would sometimes would result in death.[116][117][118][119]

As disgusting as that is, its still not a labor camp. That doesn't mean it's any less horrifying, but it's irrelevent to the point I was trying to make to Cameroi

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Postby Kushtor » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:59 pm

Inoroth wrote:Moral relativism/postmodernism

YES! They are merely fancy terms for those who have little concern for moral considerations.
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