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Martean
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Postby Martean » Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:27 am

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Scithion
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Postby Scithion » Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:42 am

Slave Morality, also known as all Morality.

Morality calls some things "good" and some things "evil," and then says "Don't do the evil things!"

What weaklings. It is not that picking morality is an act of weakness, but that morality is just a manifest way to pretend that purpose is imbued in action before one has decided what one wants. In adopting morality, one wills oneself into weakness.

For any goal, there are "good" things that help achieve that goal, and then there are "bad" things for that goal. But I suppose the fettered, the slave-moralists, can keep their delusions. But it will be funny when they complain that I am locking more literal chains upon them; they will claim to deserve better. The corpse of their will oozes out and tries to smother me in their lack of self-actualization. What a waste of potential.
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Zaras
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Postby Zaras » Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:59 am

Scithion wrote:Slave Morality, also known as all Morality.

Morality calls some things "good" and some things "evil," and then says "Don't do the evil things!"

What weaklings. It is not that picking morality is an act of weakness, but that morality is just a manifest way to pretend that purpose is imbued in action before one has decided what one wants. In adopting morality, one wills oneself into weakness.

For any goal, there are "good" things that help achieve that goal, and then there are "bad" things for that goal. But I suppose the fettered, the slave-moralists, can keep their delusions. But it will be funny when they complain that I am locking more literal chains upon them; they will claim to deserve better. The corpse of their will oozes out and tries to smother me in their lack of self-actualization. What a waste of potential.


Nietzsche wannabes, lovely. :roll:
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Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:00 am

Zaras wrote:
Scithion wrote:Slave Morality, also known as all Morality.

Morality calls some things "good" and some things "evil," and then says "Don't do the evil things!"

What weaklings. It is not that picking morality is an act of weakness, but that morality is just a manifest way to pretend that purpose is imbued in action before one has decided what one wants. In adopting morality, one wills oneself into weakness.

For any goal, there are "good" things that help achieve that goal, and then there are "bad" things for that goal. But I suppose the fettered, the slave-moralists, can keep their delusions. But it will be funny when they complain that I am locking more literal chains upon them; they will claim to deserve better. The corpse of their will oozes out and tries to smother me in their lack of self-actualization. What a waste of potential.


Nietzsche wannabes, lovely. :roll:

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Immoren
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Immoren » Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:42 am

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Anglo-Celtic States
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Ideology?

Postby Anglo-Celtic States » Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:49 am

All forms of religion !


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Magmia
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Postby Magmia » Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:58 am

Anglo-Celtic States wrote:All forms of religion !

Oh sure, because this man is absolutely terrifying. Be afraid! Be very afraid! :roll:

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Postby Winland » Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:43 am

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Benutanairan
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Postby Benutanairan » Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:03 am

Democracy. Because its responsible for fascism, communism, and everything else genocidal.
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Postby Bafuria » Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:09 am

Theocracy.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:22 am

Benutanairan wrote:Democracy. Because its responsible for fascism, communism, and everything else genocidal.

It also stopped fascism and communism(kind of).

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Postby Yorkopolis » Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:42 am

Benutanairan wrote:Democracy. Because its responsible for fascism, communism, and everything else genocidal.

:palm: First off, the original theory of Communism as it was devised by Marx was not genocidal in any way or form, and even more, ideologies in general aren't genocidal, people are. Sure they may be urging for genocide, but that doesn't mean they're genocidal (which means they want to commit genocide), because an ideology is an idea or thought, and not a person. And besides, democracy is not an ideology, it's a form of government.

Ifreann wrote:
Benutanairan wrote:Democracy. Because its responsible for fascism, communism, and everything else genocidal.

It also stopped fascism and communism(kind of).

Ideologies (or moreover forms of government) don't stop other ideologies; people do, armies do, but stop stating that ideologies caused other ideologies to surge in popularity, that is 100% not true; people cause the spread of ideologies, the ideologies don't do that themselves.
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Postby Warshania » Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:47 am

Theocratic ideologies are the worst for me.
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Benutanairan
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Postby Benutanairan » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:57 am

My point is this. Tell that to the various republics of france and the 2nd Federal republic of germany.
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Zaras
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Postby Zaras » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:59 am

Benutanairan wrote:My point is this. Tell that to the various republics of france and the 2nd Federal republic of germany.


Your argument is bad and you should feel bad. The Weimar Republic was a clusterfuck because of its badly designed constitution, and France's Third Republic had the same problem. Therefore, you're wrong.
Bythyrona wrote:
Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.

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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:00 am

Whatever ideology that makes people assume that because part of a system is bad, the entire system and all its peoples must suffer for all time because of some serious butthurt. Is there a "you're butthurt" ideology?

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Benutanairan
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Postby Benutanairan » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:02 am

Zaras wrote:
Benutanairan wrote:My point is this. Tell that to the various republics of france and the 2nd Federal republic of germany.


Your argument is bad and you should feel bad. The Weimar Republic was a clusterfuck because of its badly designed constitution, and France's Third Republic had the same problem. Therefore, you're wrong.


Hmm shit not given.
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Zaras
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Postby Zaras » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:03 am

Benutanairan wrote:
Zaras wrote:
Your argument is bad and you should feel bad. The Weimar Republic was a clusterfuck because of its badly designed constitution, and France's Third Republic had the same problem. Therefore, you're wrong.


Hmm shit not given.


So you admit to automatically losing your argument. Thanks, that just makes it easier for me! :lol:
Bythyrona wrote:
Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.

Best post I've seen on NS since I've been here. :clap:
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Inertialism
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Postby Inertialism » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:05 am

Conservatism.
:blink: <--- my face when any conservative people get into office, anywhere

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Benutanairan
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Postby Benutanairan » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:06 am

Zaras wrote:
Benutanairan wrote:
Hmm shit not given.


So you admit to automatically losing your argument. Thanks, that just makes it easier for me! :lol:



No but tell that to Botha XD. ( Elected dictator of Apartheid south africa in the 80s when I lived there)
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Postby Stadacona » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:09 am

Modern American or Canadian corparatism.
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Postby Benutanairan » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:09 am

Stadacona wrote:Modern American or Canadian corparatism.


EWW!
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Los Malvinas Son Peruano
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Postby Los Malvinas Son Peruano » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:14 am

That one stealing the money of my hard work, giving my and my family all opportunities away, giving no security to it's citizens and giving all working people's money to the people who don't work.

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Postby Jukraina » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:14 am

Islamism
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