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Postby Republic of Bordeaux » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:22 pm

Meryuma wrote:
Women seeking equality are worse than Hitler?


You jumped to a fallacy rather quickly. No; I see feminism as a more immediate/terrifying threat right now because Hitler isn't alive and his ideas don't hold as much power as they used to.


And people demanding 50/50 work forces are seeking a lot more than equality, I'd say.
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Postby Conscentia » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:23 pm

Republic of Bordeaux wrote:
Meryuma wrote:Women seeking equality are worse than Hitler?

You jumped to a fallacy rather quickly. No; I see feminism as a more immediate/terrifying threat right now because Hitler isn't alive and his ideas don't hold as much power as they used to.
And people demanding 50/50 work forces are seeking a lot more than equality, I'd say.

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:23 pm

Republic of Bordeaux wrote:
Meryuma wrote:
Women seeking equality are worse than Hitler?


You jumped to a fallacy rather quickly. No; I see feminism as a more immediate/terrifying threat right now because Hitler isn't alive and his ideas don't hold as much power as they used to.


And people demanding 50/50 work forces are seeking a lot more than equality, I'd say.

Define feminism.
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Postby Republic of Bordeaux » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:27 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:Define feminism.


Defining a political group is a pretty hard thing to do, as there are different factions of just about every group out there. I tend to define feminism as the radical "equality seekers" whose ideas of equality really mean destroying efficiency in the workplace and further displacing the man in the household. That's the most vocal aspect of it, at least.
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Postby Conscentia » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:29 pm

Republic of Bordeaux wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Define feminism.

Defining a political group is a pretty hard thing to do, as there are different factions of just about every group out there. I tend to define feminism as the radical "equality seekers" whose ideas of equality really mean destroying efficiency in the workplace and further displacing the man in the household. That's the most vocal aspect of it, at least.

Was my post invisible?
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Conscentia wrote:Stop perpetuating this gravedig.
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Postby Meryuma » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:34 pm

Republic of Bordeaux wrote:And people demanding 50/50 work forces are seeking a lot more than equality, I'd say.


That same accusation was used against supporters of desegregation and women's suffrage. Try again when you have more than cliches to argue based on.

Also, what fallacy did I jump to?
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Postby Republic of Bordeaux » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:38 pm

Meryuma wrote:That same accusation was used against supporters of desegregation and women's suffrage. Try again when you have more than cliches to argue based on.

Also, what fallacy did I jump to?


"You don't like feminism, obviously you're ok with Hitler" is a fallacy.

Don't pull that shit with me, either. 50/50 work force is an atrocious idea. If there is a work place of 40 jobs and 40 men will be the best, then it should be 40 men. If it is 40 women, then it should be 40 women. Forcing a 50/50 would be one of the worst policies forcing acceptance of "minorities" since the Rooney Rule.
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Postby Minarchist States » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:39 pm

No ideology is inherently "bad." Certainly there are some which are more pragmatic, and others which are more moral, but in the end it is men who make ideologies not work.

For me, an authoritarian leftist state, like that of North Korea.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:40 pm

Republic of Bordeaux wrote:
Meryuma wrote:That same accusation was used against supporters of desegregation and women's suffrage. Try again when you have more than cliches to argue based on.

Also, what fallacy did I jump to?


"You don't like feminism, obviously you're ok with Hitler" is a fallacy.

Don't pull that shit with me, either. 50/50 work force is an atrocious idea. If there is a work place of 40 jobs and 40 men will be the best, then it should be 40 men. If it is 40 women, then it should be 40 women. Forcing a 50/50 would be one of the worst policies forcing acceptance of "minorities" since the Rooney Rule.

No one really advocates that bedsides some fringe radicals who no one really take seriously. What feminists oppose is qualified canidates being denied purely for being women. and support equal pay forEQUAL work.
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Postby 4years » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:41 pm

Minarchist States wrote:No ideology is inherently "bad." Certainly there are some which are more pragmatic, and others which are more moral, but in the end it is men who make ideologies not work.

For me, an authoritarian leftist state, like that of North Korea.


North Korea is authoritarian right not authoritarian left.
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Postby Republic of Bordeaux » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:41 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:No one really advocates that bedsides some fringe radicals who no one really take seriously. What feminists oppose is qualified canidates being denied purely for being women. and support equal pay forEQUAL work.


Fringe radicals that no one takes seriously are almost always the most vocal of their demographic.
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Postby The Holy Michigan Empire » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:41 pm

Far left environmental druidic theocracy.

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Postby Molsona » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:43 pm

Secular communism with liberal social "values"
Republican - Conservative government is the answer
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Anti-gay "marriage" - Marriage is only valid between a man and woman
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Anti-Pornography - Porn is disgustingly immoral and degrades all involved, and only those who are addicted to it will defend it.
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Postby Solaray » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:44 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Republic of Bordeaux wrote:Feminism.

Define feminism.

I'm gonna guess they mean misandric feminism.
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Postby Chelta » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:45 pm

Anything totalitarian


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Postby Solaray » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:45 pm

Trans-humanism, anti-theism and Nazism. Not in any particular order.
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Postby Cameroi » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:46 pm

the worst is not really an ideology, but a social and cultural attatude, and that is aggressiveness.
this is the same evil, regardless of nation, ideology or belief.
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Postby NERVUN » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:47 pm

Zombieism.
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