What is to you the worst/most terrifying ideology?

[Onora]

What's so terrifying about Transhumanism exactly?

Yeah, you get cool implants and such.

One plan associated with Transhumanism is to upload the human personality into a software program that may upload into an android body inorder to achieve inmortality. Programs can be manipulated by programers and as we has seen in software glitches or unidentified codes can comeforth. If a human persona were to be uploaded into a computer it would not be the person but a replica. As the program settled it would join with others by way of joint code and evitually destory human individuality. Replacing us with a supercomputer network void of true emotion.

[Umbra Ac Silentium]

Yeah, you get cool implants and such.

One plan associated with Transhumanism is to upload the human personality into a software program that may upload into an android body inorder to achieve inmortality. Programs can be manipulated by programers and as we has seen in software glitches or unidentified codes can comeforth. If a human persona were to be uploaded into a computer it would not be the person but a replica. As the program settled it would join with others by way of joint code and evitually destory human individuality. Replacing us with a supercomputer network void of true emotion.

Transhumanism is the greatest idea since the internet. :3

[Northern Dominus]

Yeah, you get cool implants and such.

One plan associated with Transhumanism is to upload the human personality into a software program that may upload into an android body inorder to achieve inmortality. Programs can be manipulated by programers and as we has seen in software glitches or unidentified codes can comeforth. If a human persona were to be uploaded into a computer it would not be the person but a replica. As the program settled it would join with others by way of joint code and evitually destory human individuality. Replacing us with a supercomputer network void of true emotion.

First off, it souds Transhuman-ish but source please.

Secondly, a true transhumanist would view that as a final step in the ascendency of mankind. Before that things such as poverty, war, disease, most of if not all social and natural threats to mankind would either be curbed or eliminated entirely. The entire social order of things would be altered as well, doing away with petty hatred and divisiveness. You base your fears on the world as it exists today, but a lot would have to change for that the day to day reality of the world would have to change.

[AynRandtopia]

American democratic party.

[Onora]

One plan associated with Transhumanism is to upload the human personality into a software program that may upload into an android body inorder to achieve inmortality. Programs can be manipulated by programers and as we has seen in software glitches or unidentified codes can comeforth. If a human persona were to be uploaded into a computer it would not be the person but a replica. As the program settled it would join with others by way of joint code and evitually destory human individuality. Replacing us with a supercomputer network void of true emotion.

First off, it souds Transhuman-ish but source please.

Secondly, a true transhumanist would view that as a final step in the ascendency of mankind. Before that things such as poverty, war, disease, most of if not all social and natural threats to mankind would either be curbed or eliminated entirely. The entire social order of things would be altered as well, doing away with petty hatred and divisiveness. You base your fears on the world as it exists today, but a lot would have to change for that the day to day reality of the world would have to change.

We are speaking of ideologies not organizations, their is no source, you have already admited it sounds Transhumish and you have stated that a true transhumanist would "view that as a final step in the ascendency of mankind." In essensce, you only further my point. I shall say no more about these unkowing destroyers of man who live in the wake of Dr.Robotnic, the Cybermen, and Metropolis.

[Northern Dominus]

First off, it souds Transhuman-ish but source please.

Secondly, a true transhumanist would view that as a final step in the ascendency of mankind. Before that things such as poverty, war, disease, most of if not all social and natural threats to mankind would either be curbed or eliminated entirely. The entire social order of things would be altered as well, doing away with petty hatred and divisiveness. You base your fears on the world as it exists today, but a lot would have to change for that the day to day reality of the world would have to change.

We are speaking of ideologies not organizations, their is no source, you have already admited it sounds Transhumish and you have stated that a true transhumanist would "view that as a final step in the ascendency of mankind." In essensce, you only further my point. I shall say no more about these unkowing destroyers of man who live in the wake of Dr.Robotnic, the Cybermen, and Metropolis.

So in other words, you're making sensationalist claims without anything to back them up.

Good to know. Rest assured that when I load my brain into my android body I'll be sure to let you know if they implanted some sort of kill code...you know, I swear they've made some sort of series or media product based on this idea....I'm almost certain they have...

[Onora]

We are speaking of ideologies not organizations, their is no source, you have already admited it sounds Transhumish and you have stated that a true transhumanist would "view that as a final step in the ascendency of mankind." In essensce, you only further my point. I shall say no more about these unkowing destroyers of man who live in the wake of Dr.Robotnic, the Cybermen, and Metropolis.

So in other words, you're making sensationalist claims without anything to back them up.

Good to know. Rest assured that when I load my brain into my android body I'll be sure to let you know if they implanted some sort of kill code...you know, I swear they've made some sort of series or media product based on this idea....I'm almost certain they have...

Yes, it was my plan back when I though it was a good plan, I use to be very much into Robotics and Cybernetics. The main point is that my plan would have resulted in programed responses, programed names, programed this and that, nothing actual. Your not helping by the way though I think you intended to do so.

[Genivaria]

Transhumanism is basically humans looking at natural selection with humans and going "Nope, too slow."
And taking it into our own hands.

[Divair]

Transhumanism is basically humans looking at natural selection with humans and going "Nope, too slow."
And taking it into our own hands.

I like this description of transhumanism. Definitely using it in the future.

[Oneracon]

American democratic party.

So you oppose free speech, capitalism, constraints on the power of government, and empathy?

[Genivaria]

Transhumanism is basically humans looking at natural selection with humans and going "Nope, too slow."
And taking it into our own hands.

I like this description of transhumanism. Definitely using it in the future.

Just paraphrased a line I read from TVTropes.
"Transhumanism recognizes the non-directed nature of evolution, and attempts to take things into our own hands."

[Zweite Alaje]

American democratic party.

So you oppose free speech, capitalism, constraints on the power of government, and empathy?

Yep, sounds like a typical Randist.

[Meryuma]

I don't see many leftists supporting complete government control of businesses and personal lives, either.

Socialists do.

lolno

[Zaras]

Socialists do.

Why do you get to tell us what we do and don't support?

"Because he doesn't know shit" isn't a qualification? Wow, am I not shocked.

[Zaras]

If a human persona were to be uploaded into a computer it would not be the person but a replica.

Can the mystical crap. What'd be the difference?

As the program settled it would join with others by way of joint code and evitually destory human individuality.

Because human tribal allegiances don't already do that?

Replacing us with a supercomputer network void of true emotion.

Meh, emotions have caused a lot of trouble. It'd be interesting to see if we'd actually be less terrible as a species without it.

[Free South Califas]

American democratic party.

So you oppose free speech, capitalism, constraints on the power of government, and empathy?

Apparently Obama is literally worse and/or more terrifying than Hitler.

Which is weird, since Objectiveland/Aynrandtopia doesn't seem to like public works projects. And Hitler loved him some public works projects. Just shameful, that Hitler and his Autobahn.

[Onora]

If a human persona were to be uploaded into a computer it would not be the person but a replica.

Can the mystical crap. What'd be the difference?

As the program settled it would join with others by way of joint code and evitually destory human individuality.

Because human tribal allegiances don't already do that?

Replacing us with a supercomputer network void of true emotion.

Meh, emotions have caused a lot of trouble. It'd be interesting to see if we'd actually be less terrible as a species without it.

1) We would not be able to feel joy for the biochemical reactions would not take place, we could only simulate such emotions and even then would determine such simulation unnecessary.
2) Tribal identities are what makes us together, we an be individual and still be Chechz or Cornish. Just because one is Irish doesn't make them catholic for example.
3) We wouldn't be a species we would be something like Apple Omega 95 WE would be called it and the computer would refer to it's self as Hue. Hue would be all that's left of us. Hue would know what we know but we would not know what we know for we are a part of Hue. Hue is me, Hue is you. Hue does not need the earth. Hue can service with out it. Hue needs not compassion, Hue only needs to study. Hue needs not create nor destroy for all things end in their own time. Hue is not I, Hue is Hue.

[The USOT]

First off, it souds Transhuman-ish but source please.

Secondly, a true transhumanist would view that as a final step in the ascendency of mankind. Before that things such as poverty, war, disease, most of if not all social and natural threats to mankind would either be curbed or eliminated entirely. The entire social order of things would be altered as well, doing away with petty hatred and divisiveness. You base your fears on the world as it exists today, but a lot would have to change for that the day to day reality of the world would have to change.

We are speaking of ideologies not organizations, their is no source, you have already admited it sounds Transhumish and you have stated that a true transhumanist would "view that as a final step in the ascendency of mankind." In essensce, you only further my point. I shall say no more about these unkowing destroyers of man who live in the wake of Dr.Robotnic, the Cybermen, and Metropolis.

First of all, there is no one transhumanist stance. There are many for instance who are opposed to mechanisation but favour biological augmentation.
In terms of the final ascendancy, I entirely disagree as someone who would (were it ideal and possible) propose the human brain merging with technology rather than uploading data from it (I want to live forever, not something else to experience it in my stead XP). However for those who do want to upload their brains, where on earth id your basis that machines would become ultimately joined together and emotional. Our only basis for such an experience is sapient life, and we have hardly become unemotional as time goes on, and we have no way of indicating that were it possible a people en mass would join together.

[Zaras]

1) We would not be able to feel joy for the biochemical reactions would not take place, we could only simulate such emotions and even then would determine such simulation unnecessary.

Who cares about whether an emotion is simulated or not? It's still an emotion. Your posts reek of Luddite "aren't humans special" mysticism.

2) Tribal identities are what makes us together

I think you'll find more cases where they drive us apart and cause suffering.

3) We wouldn't be a species we would be something like Apple Omega 95 WE would be called it and the computer would refer to it's self as Hue. Hue would be all that's left of us. Hue would know what we know but we would not know what we know for we are a part of Hue. Hue is me, Hue is you. Hue does not need the earth. Hue can service with out it. Hue needs not compassion, Hue only needs to study. Hue needs not create nor destroy for all things end in their own time. Hue is not I, Hue is Hue.

Was that last post written while on Alpha Centauri? Dude, you know better than to write gibberish while under the effects of Alpha Centauri.

Think of those poor drones you abandoned to write this post, who need you and look up to you.

[Democratic Koyro]

So civilization?

Anarchy is not disorder. It is a form of direct democracy where there is no state and people govern themselves and there is no political or state classes. Simply, it is absence of state.



Wishes for freedom,
An anarchist.

[Meryuma]

Anarchy is not disorder. It is a form of direct democracy where there is no state and people govern themselves and there is no political or state classes. Simply, it is absence of state.



Wishes for freedom,
An anarchist.

How is it facepalm-worthy? It's factually true. The definition of anarchy is a society without power hierarchies.

[United Guildomes]

How is it facepalm-worthy? It's factually true. The definition of anarchy is a society without power hierarchies.

[Zweite Alaje]

So you oppose free speech, capitalism, constraints on the power of government, and empathy?

Apparently Obama is literally worse and/or more terrifying than Hitler.

Which is weird, since Objectiveland/Aynrandtopia doesn't seem to like public works projects. And Hitler loved him some public works projects. Just shameful, that Hitler and his Autobahn.

Meh, might not be a Hitler, but Obama isn't exactly good either.

[Free South Califas]

Archy = domination or power (hence hierarchy, plutarchy, oligarchy, patriarchy, demarchy, kyriarchy...)
An = Absence of

Anarchy = Absence of domination or power

It's not "Lord of the Flies" - it is the result of continuous vigilance against, and intolerance of: exploitation, abuse, and coercion. Anarchistic societies are characterized by an awareness of power and a conscious effort to identify and defeat any significant movement toward the rise of a State. For examples of such societies and explanations of their organizing principles, click here.

Apparently Obama is literally worse and/or more terrifying than Hitler.

Which is weird, since Objectiveland/Aynrandtopia doesn't seem to like public works projects. And Hitler loved him some public works projects. Just shameful, that Hitler and his Autobahn.

Meh, might not be a Hitler, but Obama isn't exactly good either.

Take it to the "What is to you the not exactly good ideology?" thread.

[New Sapienta]

How about instead of calling people clueless and stupid, you make a thread about Communism, then link it whenver you wish to educate someone.

There's already been a few, especially OTFST's thread about how Communism isn't Stalinism, but do they actually bother to read them, or do they just continue to parrot their stupid shit? Too often the latter is the actual result.

Or, you could continue to make yourself appear like a pompous jerk,

Beats appearing like a clueless idiot who doesn't know anything about communism but hates it like a McCarthyite.

and only make the people who agree with you alreeady respect you.

I don't want to be respected by people who don't know shit about communism.

Yeah because the guy you quoted you gave any of the links to, oh wait, you did not. Then if they directly go against the source, you say that is not true because.... rather than calling someone a clueless idiot, which convinces no one, especially a third party, and builds a reputation that you are a complete jerk(not neccesarily calling you one), and all you say is "At least I'm not as bad as them" which isn't even true, since ignorance is bad only when it is purposeful.