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Has Obama done enough to merit the Nobel Peace Prize?

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No
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Grave_n_idle
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:36 pm

Sdaeriji wrote:
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greed and death wrote:What is really funny is to win this year he had to be nominated before February 3rd. So technically he won based off of less then 1 month in office.


what?

What idiotic reason did they give back than?


The nomination process takes place in February.

Obama was inaugurated on the 20th January.

By the 22nd of January, Obama had already signed executive orders to shut down Guantanamo Bay AND to ban the torture procedures previously 'allowed' by the prior regime.

On January 27th, Obama did his "Americans are not your enemy" interview, on Al-Arabiya

On January 28th, Obama's administration was already having three-party talks with Israel and Palestine.

On February 1st, Obama pledged to have brought home most of the 140,000 troops in Iraq by the next year.


Not to mention, Obama's campaign prominently featured improved ties in the Middle East, drawing down troops in Iraq, and overturning the illegal detentions and torture of the Bush administration.

By the time the nominations were made, there was MORE than enough reason for the selection committee to consider Obama an eligible candidate.


Regardless, the selection committee doesn't make the actual nominations themselves. The selection committee extends invitations to various members of the international community to make their nominations, including university professors, judges, diplomats, and past winners. Those invited are allowed to nominate whomever they choose, and only one person is required for a nomination to be considered. In the past, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Benito Mussolini have been nominated.

The February 1st deadline is only the deadline for the submission of nominations. After all the nominations are received, the Nobel institute creates a short list of candidates from the entire list of nominations (205 in total for this year's award). The short list candidates are then researched extensively by the committee, with several months taken to compile a compelling case for each. Then comes the vote and announcement. The committee's cases are not required to only consider up until the nomination date.


Right, I was going to get into that - who actually offers the nominations, etc in a later post, but I don't need to now. :)

Suffice it to say, he was more than eligible to be considered as a candidate.
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Postby F1-Insanity » Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:49 pm

So in the future, the Nobel prize committee will consider giving the literature prize for books not yet written?
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Postby Orixa » Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:54 pm

Has anyone ever lost this award???

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Postby Ajax Prime » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:00 pm

he has not done anything and dont say impeach him becuase to impeach is to put on trial... what would we put him on trial for, WHAT HAS HE DONE? NOTHING which is why he does not deserve the prize.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:16 pm

F1-Insanity wrote:So in the future, the Nobel prize committee will consider giving the literature prize for books not yet written?


If those are the criteria set by the official guidelines... sure.
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Postby Greed and Death » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:17 pm

F1-Insanity wrote:So in the future, the Nobel prize committee will consider giving the literature prize for books not yet written?

No just judge the book by half of the first chapter only.
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Postby F1-Insanity » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:18 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
F1-Insanity wrote:So in the future, the Nobel prize committee will consider giving the literature prize for books not yet written?


If those are the criteria set by the official guidelines... sure.


great

I'm gonna go find some people that will nominate me for the next literature prize. :lol:
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-Amount cut from the budget: $385
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:18 pm

greed and death wrote:
F1-Insanity wrote:So in the future, the Nobel prize committee will consider giving the literature prize for books not yet written?

No just judge the book by half of the first chapter only.


That would probably be enough to get you published, if the style was good, the content was promising, and the synopsis was compelling.

Just saying.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:19 pm

F1-Insanity wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
F1-Insanity wrote:So in the future, the Nobel prize committee will consider giving the literature prize for books not yet written?


If those are the criteria set by the official guidelines... sure.


great

I'm gonna go find some people that will nominate me for the next literature prize. :lol:


Before you rush out, it might be worth checking what the requirements actually are.

That seems to be the problem with 9/10 of the complaints in this thread - people simply aren't familiar with the protocol for Peace Prizes.
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Postby Greed and Death » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:22 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
greed and death wrote:
F1-Insanity wrote:So in the future, the Nobel prize committee will consider giving the literature prize for books not yet written?

No just judge the book by half of the first chapter only.


That would probably be enough to get you published, if the style was good, the content was promising, and the synopsis was compelling.

Just saying.

because publishers are just trying to pick a book that sells, most people rarely have time to thumb through more then one chapter of a few books before deciding which one to buy.
They don't care if the book is utter garbage after chapter one because most people who will buy it have bought it based of chapter one already.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:33 pm

greed and death wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
greed and death wrote:
F1-Insanity wrote:So in the future, the Nobel prize committee will consider giving the literature prize for books not yet written?

No just judge the book by half of the first chapter only.


That would probably be enough to get you published, if the style was good, the content was promising, and the synopsis was compelling.

Just saying.

because publishers are just trying to pick a book that sells, most people rarely have time to thumb through more then one chapter of a few books before deciding which one to buy.
They don't care if the book is utter garbage after chapter one because most people who will buy it have bought it based of chapter one already.


Nice rationalisation, but half of it is nonsense. People don't buy books based on the first chapter - publishers might. The reason a publisher will purchase on such a slim basis is familiarity with the genre, liking what the writer is saying and how they are saying it. They're experts in the field, so to speak.

All these literary references, by the way... translate. I'm good like that.
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Postby Kingdom Brittania » Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:22 am

Orixa wrote:Has anyone ever lost this award???


No one still ever lose this award, unless he/she died before it was awarded to him/her.
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Postby Dragontide » Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:32 am

Obama was one of the very few elected officials that was against the Iraq war from the beginning. He's the first president to get serious about climate change. He admits that the US government was wrong about Gitmo as a war on terror tool. He earned the 2009 Nobel Prize.
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Postby Kingdom Brittania » Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:39 am

Dragontide wrote:Obama was one of the very few elected officials that was against the Iraq war from the beginning. He's the first president to get serious about climate change. He admits that the US government was wrong about Gitmo as a war on terror tool. He earned the 2009 Nobel Prize.


But still, why he continue the War in Afghanistan, and half-halfheartedly supported Copenhagen Climate Summit, and His Health Bill? To mention a few.
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