Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize

[Czardas]

Which, once again Non Aligned States, is not enough to grant him, not even a year into the presidency, the NPP.

Well, if you looked at the reasons given by the Committee you'd see it wasn't solely based on past actions -

Asked why the prize had been awarded to Mr Obama less than a year after he took office, Nobel Committee head Thorbjoern Jagland said: "It was because we would like to support what he is trying to achieve".
"It is a clear signal that we want to advocate the same as he has done," he said.
He specifically mentioned Mr Obama's work to strengthen international institutions and work towards a world free of nuclear arms.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8298580.stm

Hell, all he has to do is maintain Bush era policies and agreements (which he has been very good at so far) and he will reduce our nuclear armament by over half by the end of his first term.

I wonder, if Netanyahu has the IDF destroy Iran's nuclear stockpiles, will Netanyahu also get a Peace Prize for doing his part to reduce nuclear proliferation?

[Pedoka]

Apparently nominations were due 11 days into his term...
Rofl.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A64oHoom ... _embedded#
This is what the world is coming to.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Which, once again Non Aligned States, is not enough to grant him, not even a year into the presidency, the NPP.

Well, if you looked at the reasons given by the Committee you'd see it wasn't solely based on past actions -

Asked why the prize had been awarded to Mr Obama less than a year after he took office, Nobel Committee head Thorbjoern Jagland said: "It was because we would like to support what he is trying to achieve".
"It is a clear signal that we want to advocate the same as he has done," he said.
He specifically mentioned Mr Obama's work to strengthen international institutions and work towards a world free of nuclear arms.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8298580.stm

And yet contradicting what the committee wanted to achieve this year which was award the NPP to someone who had done something to promote and establish peace in the Middle East. For example: Ghazi bin Muhammad bin Talal, prince of Jordan.

[Vittos Ordination]

Which, once again Non Aligned States, is not enough to grant him, not even a year into the presidency, the NPP.

Well, if you looked at the reasons given by the Committee you'd see it wasn't solely based on past actions -

Asked why the prize had been awarded to Mr Obama less than a year after he took office, Nobel Committee head Thorbjoern Jagland said: "It was because we would like to support what he is trying to achieve".
"It is a clear signal that we want to advocate the same as he has done," he said.
He specifically mentioned Mr Obama's work to strengthen international institutions and work towards a world free of nuclear arms.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8298580.stm

Hell, all he has to do is maintain Bush era policies and agreements (which he has been very good at so far) and he will reduce our nuclear armament by over half by the end of his first term.

I wonder, if Netanyahu has the IDF destroy Iran's nuclear stockpiles, will Netanyahu also get a Peace Prize for doing his part to reduce nuclear proliferation?

We'd never know, cause unlike Iran, Israel won't allow inspectors in.

[Czardas]

Which, once again Non Aligned States, is not enough to grant him, not even a year into the presidency, the NPP.

Well, if you looked at the reasons given by the Committee you'd see it wasn't solely based on past actions -

Asked why the prize had been awarded to Mr Obama less than a year after he took office, Nobel Committee head Thorbjoern Jagland said: "It was because we would like to support what he is trying to achieve".
"It is a clear signal that we want to advocate the same as he has done," he said.
He specifically mentioned Mr Obama's work to strengthen international institutions and work towards a world free of nuclear arms.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8298580.stm

Hell, all he has to do is maintain Bush era policies and agreements (which he has been very good at so far) and he will reduce our nuclear armament by over half by the end of his first term.

I wonder, if Netanyahu has the IDF destroy Iran's nuclear stockpiles, will Netanyahu also get a Peace Prize for doing his part to reduce nuclear proliferation?

We'd never know, cause unlike Iran, Israel won't allow inspectors in.

Just send the inspectors in on a friday evening then. Stopping the inspectors from entering would require work, after all, and they can't work on the Sabbath.

[Psychotic Mongooses]

And yet contradicting what the committee wanted to achieve this year which was award the NPP to someone who had done something to promote and establish peace in the Middle East. For example: Ghazi bin Muhammad bin Talal, prince of Jordan.

I dunno, does the Prince have the same international pull in promoting international peace and attempting to strengthen international institutions as the President of the United States of America?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

And yet contradicting what the committee wanted to achieve this year which was award the NPP to someone who had done something to promote and establish peace in the Middle East. For example: Ghazi bin Muhammad bin Talal, prince of Jordan.

I dunno, does the Prince have the same international pull in promoting international peace and attempting to strengthen international institutions as the President of the United States of America?

And that matters? Ghazi bin Muhammad bin Talal at least is doing something, not promising he will do something, like Obama.

[Psychotic Mongooses]

And yet contradicting what the committee wanted to achieve this year which was award the NPP to someone who had done something to promote and establish peace in the Middle East. For example: Ghazi bin Muhammad bin Talal, prince of Jordan.

I dunno, does the Prince have the same international pull in promoting international peace and attempting to strengthen international institutions as the President of the United States of America?

And that matters?

Given the damage to said international institutions and international law by primarily the United States in the last 8 years, and the attempts to repair said damage - I would imagine so, yes.

Ghazi bin Muhammad bin Talal at least is doing something, not promising he will do something, like Obama.

Well kudos to him then.

[The chrisman union]

So.....he won the peace prize for saying (not necessarily doing) that we should all give up nukes and that Palestine and Israel should get along? Wow, I could do that.

"We should give up nukes and Palestine and Israel should get along."

Can I have my Peace Prize now? Please?

[Melkor Unchained]

And with this, the Nobel Peace Prize has descended to "Grammy" level prestige valuation among awards. I don't have anything against the guy, really, but this is wildly premature.

EDIT: Upon further reflection, awarding him the NPP at this point might actually do more harm than good.

[Czardas]

And with this, the Nobel Peace Prize has descended to "Grammy" level prestige valuation among awards. I don't have anything against the guy, really, but this is wildly premature.

I wonder if Kanye West will show up at the awards ceremony again in order to say "I'm really happy for you Obama and I'mma let you finish, but Ghazi Bin Muhammad Bin Talal did some of the best work for peace OF ALL TIME!"

[Kamsaki]

Hehe...

I think I understand exactly what this prize was awarded for.

This prize is an international snub to that reactionary aspect of the USA that has reared its ugly head during the last 10 months. It is a deliberate antagonizing of those Americans that would try to revolt or split in favour of prolonging the Neoconservative agenda. It is a statement of explicit rejection of Bush-style gun-toting ultra-globalization.

And I can't say I disapprove.

[East Canuck]

I think it's a vain attempt by the nobel peace prize comittee to bring a bit of dignity back to their prize by riding the coattails of President Obama. If the president does some good, they can say "see? WE knew all along".

[GetBert]

I think they should give it to Taylor Swift instead.

So apparently Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini were all nominated at one time or another. Maybe they need to look at the nomination process.

[Wilgrove]

Affirmative Action on a global scale?!

I'm kidding.

[Hiddenrun]

This is such a load of shit. I couldn't believe it when I heard it on the radio, I thought it was a joke.

It is a joke.

This man has polarized America more than any politician in recent memory. Oh yes, the unwashed hordes may have hated Bush, but there was never this sense of outright animosity before. Despite Obama's stated desire for political peace, it seems he does everything he can to alienate his opponents, rather than bring them into the fold the way he claimed he wanted to.

It's not just the Health Care reform, but let's look at that for a second. You've got Carter, a staunch Obama supporter, claiming that the opposition is about racism, nothing more. Imagine being told that if you bring up concerns about a radical new plan, that it's just because you're racist. That attitude completely dismisses any legitimate concerns you may have. In fact, it tells you that there are no legitimate concerns. I don't care what legislation you're talking about; there are always legitimate concerns.

But this all fits into Obama's approach. He is all about division. When he discusses 'change', he is always contrasting the future with the past in a way that is guaranteed to alienate. In his speeches he blasts the 'corrupt culture of Washington', talks about repairing the 'damage done', the 'mistakes of the past', 'failed policies and phoney arguments of previous administrations'. Hey, some of you might be going, great! Wooohoo! But you've also got to remember. The people he is blasting are still a part of the government. If you are among the group of people being blasted as part of the 'bad old America', you are not going to be feeling conciliatory, welcome, or included in this grand new world order.

Obama may claim he wants both sides to come together and leave partisanship behind, but when he simultaneously attacks the other side using as inflammatory rhetorical language as he does, he completely undermines his stated purpose. This is not a man who is bringing peace. This is a man bent on revolution, and nothing divides Americans more than revolution.

This fucker is anything but deserving of a peace prize.

[Ashmoria]

This is such a load of shit. I couldn't believe it when I heard it on the radio, I thought it was a joke.

It is a joke.

This man has polarized America more than any politician in recent memory. Oh yes, the unwashed hordes may have hated Bush, but there was never this sense of outright animosity before. Despite Obama's stated desire for political peace, it seems he does everything he can to alienate his opponents, rather than bring them into the fold the way he claimed he wanted to.

It's not just the Health Care reform, but let's look at that for a second. You've got Carter, a staunch Obama supporter, claiming that the opposition is about racism, nothing more. Imagine being told that if you bring up concerns about a radical new plan, that it's just because you're racist. That attitude completely dismisses any legitimate concerns you may have. In fact, it tells you that there are no legitimate concerns. I don't care what legislation you're talking about; there are always legitimate concerns.

But this all fits into Obama's approach. He is all about division. When he discusses 'change', he is always contrasting the future with the past in a way that is guaranteed to alienate. In his speeches he blasts the 'corrupt culture of Washington', talks about repairing the 'damage done', the 'mistakes of the past', 'failed policies and phoney arguments of previous administrations'. Hey, some of you might be going, great! Wooohoo! But you've also got to remember. The people he is blasting are still a part of the government. If you are among the group of people being blasted as part of the 'bad old America', you are not going to be feeling conciliatory, welcome, or included in this grand new world order.

Obama may claim he wants both sides to come together and leave partisanship behind, but when he simultaneously attacks the other side using as inflammatory rhetorical language as he does, he completely undermines his stated purpose. This is not a man who is bringing peace. This is a man bent on revolution, and nothing divides Americans more than revolution.

This fucker is anything but deserving of a peace prize.

there is more to the world than partisan US politics.

[Hiddenrun]

And with this, the Nobel Peace Prize has descended to "Grammy" level prestige valuation among awards. I don't have anything against the guy, really, but this is wildly premature.

I wonder if Kanye West will show up at the awards ceremony again in order to say "I'm really happy for you Obama and I'mma let you finish, but Ghazi Bin Muhammad Bin Talal did some of the best work for peace OF ALL TIME!"

Awesome.

The man has a powerful meme.

[Hiddenrun]

there is more to the world than partisan US politics.

And what has he done for global peace, other than replace Bush?

He is driving his own country into partisanship the likes of which I have never seen. Not even during Vietnam. So he can drive a wedge that far into the fabric of his own country, and this accomplishes what on the global scene?

[Melkor Unchained]

there is more to the world than partisan US politics.

Yes, but:

Hehe...

I think I understand exactly what this prize was awarded for.

This prize is an international snub to that reactionary aspect of the USA that has reared its ugly head during the last 10 months. It is a deliberate antagonizing of those Americans that would try to revolt or split in favour of prolonging the Neoconservative agenda. It is a statement of explicit rejection of Bush-style gun-toting ultra-globalization.

And I can't say I disapprove.

I have to agree with Kam on this one, although I don't think that's a good reason for awarding a Peace Prize. The NPP wasn't awarded for anything Obama has done (remember that nominations are due on Feb 1; less than 2 weeks into his term), it was awarded for what he represents. In my mind, it's like handing out Olympic medals to someone who "has a lot of heart" or whatever.

[Bikonria]

This fucker is anything but deserving of a peace prize.

lol u mad?

I'm just joking.

[Ashmoria]

there is more to the world than partisan US politics.

And what has he done for global peace, other than replace Bush?

He is driving his own country into partisanship the likes of which I have never seen. Not even during Vietnam. So he can drive a wedge that far into the fabric of his own country, and this accomplishes what on the global scene?

i think you have misidenfied the driver of that bus.

replacing bush (and his policy of bullying) IS working toward world peace.

so is working for nuclear disarmament and policing of nuclear stockpiles

but really, *I* dont have to defend the nobel committee. its their prize to give to whomever they want for whatever reason they want.

[Hiddenrun]

I have to agree with Kam on this one, although I don't think that's a good reason for awarding a Peace Prize. The NPP wasn't awarded for anything Obama has done (remember that nominations are due on Feb 1; less than 2 weeks into his term), it was awarded for what he represents.

Should that be enough? Obama is the leader of the most powerful country on earth. Is that all he needs to do, to get this prize? Of course it's for what he supposedly represents (ignoring the reality of what he accomplishes), but frankly, it seems to me that demeans the entire point of what the Nobel Peace Prize represents. Which is the promotion of peace through thought and action; not simply by accident of being the one to follow an extremely unpopular administration.

[Vittos Ordination]

there is more to the world than partisan US politics.

It is interesting how closely his domestic rhetoric has mirrored his foreign rhetoric. In both he promised to work with the other side to get a resolution, but he is now simply trying to ram health care through and has been anything but amicable about it, and he has upped the war in Afghanistan, pushed Pakistan's government to the limits of revolution, continues largely unilateral operations in Iraq.

Right now he seems only ready to compromise with congressional democrats and the Israeli government.

EDIT: And banks and pharmaceuticals.

[Hiddenrun]

This fucker is anything but deserving of a peace prize.

lol u mad?

I'm just joking.

I'm...what's the term? Let's just say, my reaction was 'buh'? Sort of like I was when they nominated Yasser Arafat. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. The prize has already been thoroughly discredited.