Hairless Kitten II wrote:Maybe Obama is elected because the lack of decent other candidates.
I don't feel that Obama deserved the trophy, but I can't think about a name of some else either. Do you?
Take a look at the other candidates.
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by Blaaraud » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:45 am
Hairless Kitten II wrote:Maybe Obama is elected because the lack of decent other candidates.
I don't feel that Obama deserved the trophy, but I can't think about a name of some else either. Do you?
by Freivoron » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:46 am
by Hairless Kitten II » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:46 am
by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:46 am
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by FreeSatania » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:46 am
Vittos Ordination wrote:Obama Jugen III wrote:FreeSatania wrote:Vittos Ordination wrote:Obama Jugen III wrote:Czardas wrote:F1-Insanity wrote:So, what exactly has Obama done that makes him 'deserve' it more than, say, Morgan Tsvangirai? The latter being someone who actually puts his own life on the line to try and work for peace?
It just confirms what I have been saying for years, the Nobel prize committee is a bunch of leftists promoting leftist politics. Oh, and to some folks here, no they are not anti-USA, they are pro-leftist.
Out of curiosity, do you think Henry Kissinger or Yasser Arafat were leftists as well?
Well, Arafat was, of course. He was supported (at times directly) by the Soviet Union. And since Israel's rattle-snake-like self-defense is perceived as extreme militarism by the left, anyone opposing Israel scores brownie points with post-soviet-union left. Yes, I know that the prize was also given to Rabin, but only because he made a move which was nearly suicidal for Israel.
Let me guess: Since you call yourself a righty, you consider everything you disagree with to be leftist?
You know calling Arafat a leftist is where the whole idea that there are only two ideas in the world right and left breaks down entirely.
Only if you allow the left to get away with claiming that they are pacifists.
Leftists are progressives. That is the original definition of the term. That should still be the definition of the term.
by Obama Jugen III » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:47 am
Almajoya wrote:Kostemetsia wrote:Non Aligned States wrote:Hmm... if Obama refuses the prize on the grounds that he hasn't done enough to earn it yet, I wonder what the political implications of that would be among his supporters and critics.
If Obama accepts it, I believe many of his supporters will be disappointed and, almost universally, his critics will hoot triumphantly about the gall he's shown in accepting the prize.
If Obama doesn't accept it, I believe many of his supporters will be mollified and, almost universally, his critics will hoot triumphantly about the weakness he's shown in not accepting the prize.
This.
Can't anyone just be happy for the man? There's no pleasing you, is there?
As an immigrant, I can testify to the way Obama's election galvanized people all over the world. It was truly beautiful to see so many different peoples come together to back this one man, an American president no less- we all know how the international community feels about U.S. presidents
I think those are grounds for receiving the award.
Oh, and stop playing the race card, NSG. You're very bad at it.
by New Mitanni » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:47 am
Vittos Ordination wrote:I didn't say anything about being an extremist. I just questioned your categorization of Arafat and the USSR as being leftist. That seems fairly absurd, and I assumed you were the typical kool-aid drinking American "Conservative" because of it.
by Peepelonia » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:48 am
Vittos Ordination wrote:Leftists are progressives. That is the original definition of the term. That should still be the definition of the term.
by Hairless Kitten II » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:48 am
by Brutland and Norden » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:49 am
Hairless Kitten II wrote:I'll ask Monday a pay raise. I'll promise that I'll be more creative next year.
by FreeSatania » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:49 am
by Obama Jugen III » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:51 am
FreeSatania wrote:Vittos Ordination wrote:Obama Jugen III wrote:FreeSatania wrote:Vittos Ordination wrote:Obama Jugen III wrote:Czardas wrote:F1-Insanity wrote:So, what exactly has Obama done that makes him 'deserve' it more than, say, Morgan Tsvangirai? The latter being someone who actually puts his own life on the line to try and work for peace?
It just confirms what I have been saying for years, the Nobel prize committee is a bunch of leftists promoting leftist politics. Oh, and to some folks here, no they are not anti-USA, they are pro-leftist.
Out of curiosity, do you think Henry Kissinger or Yasser Arafat were leftists as well?
Well, Arafat was, of course. He was supported (at times directly) by the Soviet Union. And since Israel's rattle-snake-like self-defense is perceived as extreme militarism by the left, anyone opposing Israel scores brownie points with post-soviet-union left. Yes, I know that the prize was also given to Rabin, but only because he made a move which was nearly suicidal for Israel.
Let me guess: Since you call yourself a righty, you consider everything you disagree with to be leftist?
You know calling Arafat a leftist is where the whole idea that there are only two ideas in the world right and left breaks down entirely.
Only if you allow the left to get away with claiming that they are pacifists.
Leftists are progressives. That is the original definition of the term. That should still be the definition of the term.
I prefer to use the term left to refer to the side of my desk where my coffee cup is located and my mouse is not located.
by Vittos Ordination » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:53 am
New Mitanni wrote:Vittos Ordination wrote:I didn't say anything about being an extremist. I just questioned your categorization of Arafat and the USSR as being leftist. That seems fairly absurd, and I assumed you were the typical kool-aid drinking American "Conservative" because of it.
How silly of anyone to characterize the USSR as "leftist". Everyone in Western Europe knows the USSR was a reactionary rightist regime.
You don't really expect to be taken seriously, do you?
by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:53 am
Slava Ukraini
Also: THERNSY!!
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by Obama Jugen III » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:54 am
New Mitanni wrote:Vittos Ordination wrote:I didn't say anything about being an extremist. I just questioned your categorization of Arafat and the USSR as being leftist. That seems fairly absurd, and I assumed you were the typical kool-aid drinking American "Conservative" because of it.
How silly of anyone to characterize the USSR as "leftist". Everyone in Western Europe knows the USSR was a reactionary rightist regime.
You don't really expect to be taken seriously, do you?
by New Mitanni » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:54 am
Almajoya wrote:As an immigrant, I can testify to the way Obama's election galvanized people all over the world.
Almajoya wrote: It was truly beautiful to see so many different peoples come together to back this one man, an American president no less- we all know how the international community feels about U.S. presidents
Almajoya wrote:I think those are grounds for receiving the award.
by Vittos Ordination » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:54 am
Obama Jugen III wrote:FreeSatania wrote:Vittos Ordination wrote:Obama Jugen III wrote:FreeSatania wrote:Vittos Ordination wrote:Obama Jugen III wrote:Czardas wrote:F1-Insanity wrote:So, what exactly has Obama done that makes him 'deserve' it more than, say, Morgan Tsvangirai? The latter being someone who actually puts his own life on the line to try and work for peace?
It just confirms what I have been saying for years, the Nobel prize committee is a bunch of leftists promoting leftist politics. Oh, and to some folks here, no they are not anti-USA, they are pro-leftist.
Out of curiosity, do you think Henry Kissinger or Yasser Arafat were leftists as well?
Well, Arafat was, of course. He was supported (at times directly) by the Soviet Union. And since Israel's rattle-snake-like self-defense is perceived as extreme militarism by the left, anyone opposing Israel scores brownie points with post-soviet-union left. Yes, I know that the prize was also given to Rabin, but only because he made a move which was nearly suicidal for Israel.
Let me guess: Since you call yourself a righty, you consider everything you disagree with to be leftist?
You know calling Arafat a leftist is where the whole idea that there are only two ideas in the world right and left breaks down entirely.
Only if you allow the left to get away with claiming that they are pacifists.
Leftists are progressives. That is the original definition of the term. That should still be the definition of the term.
I prefer to use the term left to refer to the side of my desk where my coffee cup is located and my mouse is not located.
Actually that definition has been re-adapted only recently and it's incredibly inappropriate. The left ideology is against progress. How they conned the world into calling them progressive all of a sudden is beyond me.
by Peepelonia » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:55 am
Obama Jugen III wrote:Actually that definition has been re-adapted only recently and it's incredibly inappropriate. The left ideology is against progress. How they conned the world into calling them progressive all of a sudden is beyond me.
by Obama Jugen III » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:55 am
by Bears Armed » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:57 am
Obama Jugen III wrote:Peepelonia wrote:Obama Jugen III wrote:If it ever came out that his intention is to lead based on the priorities established by foreign interests (which on occasion happen to be in direct conflict with the US interests), he would, in essence, confess to treason.
Hahah and I thought you said you were clever?
And it's still true. Derision is... meh... generally reminds me of my students who sneaker to cover up the fact that they have no clue as to what's going on in class.
by Obama Jugen III » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:58 am
Peepelonia wrote:Obama Jugen III wrote:Actually that definition has been re-adapted only recently and it's incredibly inappropriate. The left ideology is against progress. How they conned the world into calling them progressive all of a sudden is beyond me.
Hahah what rubbish! I don't know how things are in other parts of the word but I can assure you that here in the UK, the left ideology is progressive.
by Lunatic Goofballs » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:59 am
FreeSatania wrote:*steals dirty socks and does unspeakable things to them*
by Vittos Ordination » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:59 am
Obama Jugen III wrote:New Mitanni wrote:Vittos Ordination wrote:I didn't say anything about being an extremist. I just questioned your categorization of Arafat and the USSR as being leftist. That seems fairly absurd, and I assumed you were the typical kool-aid drinking American "Conservative" because of it.
How silly of anyone to characterize the USSR as "leftist". Everyone in Western Europe knows the USSR was a reactionary rightist regime.
You don't really expect to be taken seriously, do you?
I keep forgetting that it's the upside-down day today. So USSR was rightist. Then regulation-free anarcho-capitlists are the leftists? This is gonna get confusing very fast.
by Obama Jugen III » Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:00 am
Bears Armed wrote:Obama Jugen III wrote:Peepelonia wrote:Obama Jugen III wrote:If it ever came out that his intention is to lead based on the priorities established by foreign interests (which on occasion happen to be in direct conflict with the US interests), he would, in essence, confess to treason.
Hahah and I thought you said you were clever?
And it's still true. Derision is... meh... generally reminds me of my students who sneaker to cover up the fact that they have no clue as to what's going on in class.
= "snicker"?
by Tiesabre » Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:01 am
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