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by F1-Insanity » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:34 am
Czardas wrote:F1-Insanity wrote:So, what exactly has Obama done that makes him 'deserve' it more than, say, Morgan Tsvangirai? The latter being someone who actually puts his own life on the line to try and work for peace?
It just confirms what I have been saying for years, the Nobel prize committee is a bunch of leftists promoting leftist politics. Oh, and to some folks here, no they are not anti-USA, they are pro-leftist.
Out of curiosity, do you think Henry Kissinger or Yasser Arafat were leftists as well?
by FreeSatania » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:35 am
by F1-Insanity » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:35 am
by Lunatic Goofballs » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:36 am
TaoTai wrote:This is the same man who said in a public forum that he wanted to bomb the nomadic territory on Pakistan's border with Iran, right?
by Northwest Slobovia » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:36 am
by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:37 am
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by Vittos Ordination » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:37 am
FreeSatania wrote:Vittos Ordination wrote:Obama Jugen III wrote:Czardas wrote:F1-Insanity wrote:So, what exactly has Obama done that makes him 'deserve' it more than, say, Morgan Tsvangirai? The latter being someone who actually puts his own life on the line to try and work for peace?
It just confirms what I have been saying for years, the Nobel prize committee is a bunch of leftists promoting leftist politics. Oh, and to some folks here, no they are not anti-USA, they are pro-leftist.
Out of curiosity, do you think Henry Kissinger or Yasser Arafat were leftists as well?
Well, Arafat was, of course. He was supported (at times directly) by the Soviet Union. And since Israel's rattle-snake-like self-defense is perceived as extreme militarism by the left, anyone opposing Israel scores brownie points with post-soviet-union left. Yes, I know that the prize was also given to Rabin, but only because he made a move which was nearly suicidal for Israel.
Let me guess: Since you call yourself a righty, you consider everything you disagree with to be leftist?
You know calling Arafat a leftist is where the whole idea that there are only two ideas in the world right and left breaks down entirely.
I voted for Gore. And didn't vote for Bush the 2nd time around. Come to think of it, I never voted for a Republican President.
And I am not sure why you assign an extremist position to someone who is exposing extremism. Extreme left is just as full of
knee-jerk reactions as the extreme right. And the left's hate hate for Israel is very much a knee-jerk reaction.
by Lunatic Goofballs » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:38 am
by FreeSatania » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:38 am
Vittos Ordination wrote:FreeSatania wrote:Vittos Ordination wrote:Obama Jugen III wrote:Czardas wrote:F1-Insanity wrote:So, what exactly has Obama done that makes him 'deserve' it more than, say, Morgan Tsvangirai? The latter being someone who actually puts his own life on the line to try and work for peace?
It just confirms what I have been saying for years, the Nobel prize committee is a bunch of leftists promoting leftist politics. Oh, and to some folks here, no they are not anti-USA, they are pro-leftist.
Out of curiosity, do you think Henry Kissinger or Yasser Arafat were leftists as well?
Well, Arafat was, of course. He was supported (at times directly) by the Soviet Union. And since Israel's rattle-snake-like self-defense is perceived as extreme militarism by the left, anyone opposing Israel scores brownie points with post-soviet-union left. Yes, I know that the prize was also given to Rabin, but only because he made a move which was nearly suicidal for Israel.
Let me guess: Since you call yourself a righty, you consider everything you disagree with to be leftist?
You know calling Arafat a leftist is where the whole idea that there are only two ideas in the world right and left breaks down entirely.
Absolutely true.I voted for Gore. And didn't vote for Bush the 2nd time around. Come to think of it, I never voted for a Republican President.
And I am not sure why you assign an extremist position to someone who is exposing extremism. Extreme left is just as full of
knee-jerk reactions as the extreme right. And the left's hate hate for Israel is very much a knee-jerk reaction.
I didn't say anything about being an extremist. I just questioned your categorization of Arafat and the USSR as being leftist. That seems fairly absurd, and I assumed you were the typical kool-aid drinking American "Conservative" because of it.
by Almajoya » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:39 am
Kostemetsia wrote:Non Aligned States wrote:Hmm... if Obama refuses the prize on the grounds that he hasn't done enough to earn it yet, I wonder what the political implications of that would be among his supporters and critics.
If Obama accepts it, I believe many of his supporters will be disappointed and, almost universally, his critics will hoot triumphantly about the gall he's shown in accepting the prize.
If Obama doesn't accept it, I believe many of his supporters will be mollified and, almost universally, his critics will hoot triumphantly about the weakness he's shown in not accepting the prize.
by Lager_ Louts » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:39 am
by Lunatic Goofballs » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:40 am
by Obama Jugen III » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:40 am
FreeSatania wrote:Vittos Ordination wrote:Obama Jugen III wrote:Czardas wrote:F1-Insanity wrote:So, what exactly has Obama done that makes him 'deserve' it more than, say, Morgan Tsvangirai? The latter being someone who actually puts his own life on the line to try and work for peace?
It just confirms what I have been saying for years, the Nobel prize committee is a bunch of leftists promoting leftist politics. Oh, and to some folks here, no they are not anti-USA, they are pro-leftist.
Out of curiosity, do you think Henry Kissinger or Yasser Arafat were leftists as well?
Well, Arafat was, of course. He was supported (at times directly) by the Soviet Union. And since Israel's rattle-snake-like self-defense is perceived as extreme militarism by the left, anyone opposing Israel scores brownie points with post-soviet-union left. Yes, I know that the prize was also given to Rabin, but only because he made a move which was nearly suicidal for Israel.
Let me guess: Since you call yourself a righty, you consider everything you disagree with to be leftist?
You know calling Arafat a leftist is where the whole idea that there are only two ideas in the world right and left breaks down entirely.
by Vittos Ordination » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:41 am
by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:42 am
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by Brutland and Norden » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:42 am
Almajoya wrote:Oh, and stop playing the race card, NSG. You're very bad at it.
by Vittos Ordination » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:42 am
Obama Jugen III wrote:FreeSatania wrote:Vittos Ordination wrote:Obama Jugen III wrote:Czardas wrote:F1-Insanity wrote:So, what exactly has Obama done that makes him 'deserve' it more than, say, Morgan Tsvangirai? The latter being someone who actually puts his own life on the line to try and work for peace?
It just confirms what I have been saying for years, the Nobel prize committee is a bunch of leftists promoting leftist politics. Oh, and to some folks here, no they are not anti-USA, they are pro-leftist.
Out of curiosity, do you think Henry Kissinger or Yasser Arafat were leftists as well?
Well, Arafat was, of course. He was supported (at times directly) by the Soviet Union. And since Israel's rattle-snake-like self-defense is perceived as extreme militarism by the left, anyone opposing Israel scores brownie points with post-soviet-union left. Yes, I know that the prize was also given to Rabin, but only because he made a move which was nearly suicidal for Israel.
Let me guess: Since you call yourself a righty, you consider everything you disagree with to be leftist?
You know calling Arafat a leftist is where the whole idea that there are only two ideas in the world right and left breaks down entirely.
Only if you allow the left to get away with claiming that they are pacifists.
by Vittos Ordination » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:43 am
by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:44 am
Almajoya wrote:Kostemetsia wrote:Non Aligned States wrote:Hmm... if Obama refuses the prize on the grounds that he hasn't done enough to earn it yet, I wonder what the political implications of that would be among his supporters and critics.
If Obama accepts it, I believe many of his supporters will be disappointed and, almost universally, his critics will hoot triumphantly about the gall he's shown in accepting the prize.
If Obama doesn't accept it, I believe many of his supporters will be mollified and, almost universally, his critics will hoot triumphantly about the weakness he's shown in not accepting the prize.
This.
Can't anyone just be happy for the man? There's no pleasing you, is there?
As an immigrant, I can testify to the way Obama's election galvanized people all over the world. It was truly beautiful to see so many different peoples come together to back this one man, an American president no less- we all know how the international community feels about U.S. presidents
I think those are grounds for receiving the award.
Oh, and stop playing the race card, NSG. You're very bad at it.
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by Peepelonia » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:44 am
Obama Jugen III wrote:Only if you allow the left to get away with claiming that they are pacifists.
by Hairless Kitten II » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:45 am
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