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Has Obama done enough to merit the Nobel Peace Prize?

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:17 am

FreeSatania wrote:
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FreeSatania wrote:Henry Kissinger has one too and he didn't do anything to deserve it either.


In fact, he probably did enough to earn an anti-peace prize. :p


Well their giving Obama his because of what he promises to do in the area of anti-peace.


Like close Gitmo and reduce nuclear stockpiles?
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Postby Czardas » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:17 am

F1-Insanity wrote:So, what exactly has Obama done that makes him 'deserve' it more than, say, Morgan Tsvangirai? The latter being someone who actually puts his own life on the line to try and work for peace?

It just confirms what I have been saying for years, the Nobel prize committee is a bunch of leftists promoting leftist politics. Oh, and to some folks here, no they are not anti-USA, they are pro-leftist.

Out of curiosity, do you think Henry Kissinger or Yasser Arafat were leftists as well?
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Postby Verdeguay » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:18 am

F1-Insanity wrote:So, what exactly has Obama done that makes him 'deserve' it more than, say, Morgan Tsvangirai? The latter being someone who actually puts his own life on the line to try and work for peace?

It just confirms what I have been saying for years, the Nobel prize committee is a bunch of leftists promoting leftist politics. Oh, and to some folks here, no they are not anti-USA, they are pro-leftist.


Morgan Tsvangirai is a leftist. Well, center-leftist. The MDC is a member of the Socialist International.
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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:18 am

My, how the standards have fallen over the years...

Let's looks at the other US presidents who have gotten the laurels for peace:

Teddy Roosevelt (1906): negotiated peace between Russian and Japan
Woodrow Wilson (1919): founded the League of Nations, the predcessor to the UN
Jimmy Carter (2002): negotiated peace between Israel and Egypt

vs:

Barak Obama (2009): is a nicer guy than George Bush

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Postby Hairless Kitten II » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:18 am

But...but...Obamala solved that major crisis, you know the policeman vs. the scholar war, with only one tool: beer.

Maybe they were impressed by this at the Nobel Factory?

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:19 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
FreeSatania wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
FreeSatania wrote:Henry Kissinger has one too and he didn't do anything to deserve it either.


In fact, he probably did enough to earn an anti-peace prize. :p


Well their giving Obama his because of what he promises to do in the area of anti-peace.


I can understand his promises, and I can see what LG said earlier. But to me, which in the larger scheme of things matters not, Barrack Obama winning the NPP on mere promises of what he will do is... vapid. I wouldn't have given him the prize. He really hasn't ''done'' anything with those promises, just yet.


I'm not even saying I would. I'm just trying to explain the workings of the Nobel Peace Prize. They occasionally award it to people who have actually earned it, but far more often, they award it to causes they agree with to try to promote it.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:21 am

Northwest Slobovia wrote:My, how the standards have fallen over the years...

Let's looks at the other US presidents who have gotten the laurels for peace:

Teddy Roosevelt (1906): negotiated peace between Russian and Japan
Woodrow Wilson (1919): founded the League of Nations, the predcessor to the UN
Jimmy Carter (2002): negotiated peace between Israel and Egypt

vs:

Barak Obama (2009): is a nicer guy than George Bush

:roll: :palm:


I think that demonstrates just what the world thought of Bush. :p
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:21 am

Hairless Kitten II wrote:But...but...Obamala solved that major crisis, you know the policeman vs. the scholar war, with only one tool: beer.

Maybe they were impressed by this at the Nobel Factory?


I know I was. ;)
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:21 am

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Northwest Slobovia wrote:My, how the standards have fallen over the years...

Let's looks at the other US presidents who have gotten the laurels for peace:

Teddy Roosevelt (1906): negotiated peace between Russian and Japan
Woodrow Wilson (1919): founded the League of Nations, the predcessor to the UN
Jimmy Carter (2002): negotiated peace between Israel and Egypt

vs:

Barak Obama (2009): is a nicer guy than George Bush

:roll: :palm:


I think that demonstrates just what the world thought of Bush. :p


IIRC, GW Bush was one of the candidates for this year's NPP.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:22 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Northwest Slobovia wrote:My, how the standards have fallen over the years...

Let's looks at the other US presidents who have gotten the laurels for peace:

Teddy Roosevelt (1906): negotiated peace between Russian and Japan
Woodrow Wilson (1919): founded the League of Nations, the predcessor to the UN
Jimmy Carter (2002): negotiated peace between Israel and Egypt

vs:

Barak Obama (2009): is a nicer guy than George Bush

:roll: :palm:


I think that demonstrates just what the world thought of Bush. :p


IIRC, GW Bush was one of the candidates for this year's NPP.


I wonder how long this thread would have been if he won it. :eek:
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Postby Vervaria » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:23 am

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Northwest Slobovia wrote:My, how the standards have fallen over the years...

Let's looks at the other US presidents who have gotten the laurels for peace:

Teddy Roosevelt (1906): negotiated peace between Russian and Japan
Woodrow Wilson (1919): founded the League of Nations, the predcessor to the UN
Jimmy Carter (2002): negotiated peace between Israel and Egypt

vs:

Barak Obama (2009): is a nicer guy than George Bush

:roll: :palm:


I think that demonstrates just what the world thought of Bush. :p


IIRC, GW Bush was one of the candidates for this year's NPP.


I wonder how long this thread would have been if he won it. :eek:

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:23 am

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Northwest Slobovia wrote:My, how the standards have fallen over the years...

Let's looks at the other US presidents who have gotten the laurels for peace:

Teddy Roosevelt (1906): negotiated peace between Russian and Japan
Woodrow Wilson (1919): founded the League of Nations, the predcessor to the UN
Jimmy Carter (2002): negotiated peace between Israel and Egypt

vs:

Barak Obama (2009): is a nicer guy than George Bush

:roll: :palm:


I think that demonstrates just what the world thought of Bush. :p


IIRC, GW Bush was one of the candidates for this year's NPP.


I wonder how long this thread would have been if he won it. :eek:


Dude, it would be kilometric. :shock:
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Postby Obama Jugen III » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:23 am

Czardas wrote:
F1-Insanity wrote:So, what exactly has Obama done that makes him 'deserve' it more than, say, Morgan Tsvangirai? The latter being someone who actually puts his own life on the line to try and work for peace?

It just confirms what I have been saying for years, the Nobel prize committee is a bunch of leftists promoting leftist politics. Oh, and to some folks here, no they are not anti-USA, they are pro-leftist.

Out of curiosity, do you think Henry Kissinger or Yasser Arafat were leftists as well?

Well, Arafat was, of course. He was supported (at times directly) by the Soviet Union. And since Israel's rattle-snake-like self-defense is perceived as extreme militarism by the left, anyone opposing Israel scores brownie points with post-soviet-union left. Yes, I know that the prize was also given to Rabin, but only because he made a move which was nearly suicidal for Israel.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:26 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Northwest Slobovia wrote:My, how the standards have fallen over the years...

Let's looks at the other US presidents who have gotten the laurels for peace:

Teddy Roosevelt (1906): negotiated peace between Russian and Japan
Woodrow Wilson (1919): founded the League of Nations, the predcessor to the UN
Jimmy Carter (2002): negotiated peace between Israel and Egypt

vs:

Barak Obama (2009): is a nicer guy than George Bush

:roll: :palm:


I think that demonstrates just what the world thought of Bush. :p


IIRC, GW Bush was one of the candidates for this year's NPP.


I wonder how long this thread would have been if he won it. :eek:


Dude, it would be kilometric. :shock:


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Postby Vittos Ordination » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:27 am

Obama Jugen III wrote:
Czardas wrote:
F1-Insanity wrote:So, what exactly has Obama done that makes him 'deserve' it more than, say, Morgan Tsvangirai? The latter being someone who actually puts his own life on the line to try and work for peace?

It just confirms what I have been saying for years, the Nobel prize committee is a bunch of leftists promoting leftist politics. Oh, and to some folks here, no they are not anti-USA, they are pro-leftist.

Out of curiosity, do you think Henry Kissinger or Yasser Arafat were leftists as well?

Well, Arafat was, of course. He was supported (at times directly) by the Soviet Union. And since Israel's rattle-snake-like self-defense is perceived as extreme militarism by the left, anyone opposing Israel scores brownie points with post-soviet-union left. Yes, I know that the prize was also given to Rabin, but only because he made a move which was nearly suicidal for Israel.


Let me guess: Since you call yourself a righty, you consider everything you disagree with to be leftist?

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Postby FreeSatania » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:27 am

Northwest Slobovia wrote:My, how the standards have fallen over the years...

Let's looks at the other US presidents who have gotten the laurels for peace:

Teddy Roosevelt (1906): negotiated peace between Russian and Japan
Woodrow Wilson (1919): founded the League of Nations, the predcessor to the UN
Jimmy Carter (2002): negotiated peace between Israel and Egypt

vs:

Barak Obama (2009): is a nicer guy than George Bush

:roll: :palm:


Well Bush is a nicer guy the Cheney so it's all relative.

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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:28 am

Hairless Kitten II wrote:One question: Why?

The "best" and most logical answer I've heard is that the prize commitee awarded it to B.O. as a slap in the face to the Bush Administration.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:28 am

Vittos Ordination wrote:
Obama Jugen III wrote:
Czardas wrote:
F1-Insanity wrote:So, what exactly has Obama done that makes him 'deserve' it more than, say, Morgan Tsvangirai? The latter being someone who actually puts his own life on the line to try and work for peace?

It just confirms what I have been saying for years, the Nobel prize committee is a bunch of leftists promoting leftist politics. Oh, and to some folks here, no they are not anti-USA, they are pro-leftist.

Out of curiosity, do you think Henry Kissinger or Yasser Arafat were leftists as well?

Well, Arafat was, of course. He was supported (at times directly) by the Soviet Union. And since Israel's rattle-snake-like self-defense is perceived as extreme militarism by the left, anyone opposing Israel scores brownie points with post-soviet-union left. Yes, I know that the prize was also given to Rabin, but only because he made a move which was nearly suicidal for Israel.


Let me guess: Since you call yourself a righty, you consider everything you disagree with to be leftist?


You just summed up right-wing and left-wing flawlessly. :)
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Postby FreeSatania » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:29 am

Vittos Ordination wrote:
Obama Jugen III wrote:
Czardas wrote:
F1-Insanity wrote:So, what exactly has Obama done that makes him 'deserve' it more than, say, Morgan Tsvangirai? The latter being someone who actually puts his own life on the line to try and work for peace?

It just confirms what I have been saying for years, the Nobel prize committee is a bunch of leftists promoting leftist politics. Oh, and to some folks here, no they are not anti-USA, they are pro-leftist.

Out of curiosity, do you think Henry Kissinger or Yasser Arafat were leftists as well?

Well, Arafat was, of course. He was supported (at times directly) by the Soviet Union. And since Israel's rattle-snake-like self-defense is perceived as extreme militarism by the left, anyone opposing Israel scores brownie points with post-soviet-union left. Yes, I know that the prize was also given to Rabin, but only because he made a move which was nearly suicidal for Israel.


Let me guess: Since you call yourself a righty, you consider everything you disagree with to be leftist?


You know calling Arafat a leftist is where the whole idea that there are only two ideas in the world right and left breaks down entirely.

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:29 am

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Hairless Kitten II wrote:One question: Why?

The "best" and most logical answer I've heard is that the prize commitee awarded it to B.O. as a slap in the face to the Bush Administration.


As Nanatsu pointed out, George W. Bush was also nominated. Helluva slap huh? :p
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:30 am

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Northwest Slobovia wrote:My, how the standards have fallen over the years...

Let's looks at the other US presidents who have gotten the laurels for peace:

Teddy Roosevelt (1906): negotiated peace between Russian and Japan
Woodrow Wilson (1919): founded the League of Nations, the predcessor to the UN
Jimmy Carter (2002): negotiated peace between Israel and Egypt

vs:

Barak Obama (2009): is a nicer guy than George Bush

:roll: :palm:


I think that demonstrates just what the world thought of Bush. :p


IIRC, GW Bush was one of the candidates for this year's NPP.


I wonder how long this thread would have been if he won it. :eek:


Dude, it would be kilometric. :shock:


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Not to mention Bottle would come and bitch slap everyone, and Muravyets and Neesika would probably put on the final touches. Then of course, Neo Art would find another angle to the discussion and hilarity would ensue anew.

Ah, I miss those arguments. :blush:
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Postby Obama Jugen III » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:30 am

Vittos Ordination wrote:
Obama Jugen III wrote:
Czardas wrote:
F1-Insanity wrote:So, what exactly has Obama done that makes him 'deserve' it more than, say, Morgan Tsvangirai? The latter being someone who actually puts his own life on the line to try and work for peace?

It just confirms what I have been saying for years, the Nobel prize committee is a bunch of leftists promoting leftist politics. Oh, and to some folks here, no they are not anti-USA, they are pro-leftist.

Out of curiosity, do you think Henry Kissinger or Yasser Arafat were leftists as well?

Well, Arafat was, of course. He was supported (at times directly) by the Soviet Union. And since Israel's rattle-snake-like self-defense is perceived as extreme militarism by the left, anyone opposing Israel scores brownie points with post-soviet-union left. Yes, I know that the prize was also given to Rabin, but only because he made a move which was nearly suicidal for Israel.


Let me guess: Since you call yourself a righty, you consider everything you disagree with to be leftist?

I voted for Gore. And didn't vote for Bush the 2nd time around. Come to think of it, I never voted for a Republican President.
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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:30 am

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Hairless Kitten II wrote:One question: Why?

The "best" and most logical answer I've heard is that the prize commitee awarded it to B.O. as a slap in the face to the Bush Administration.

...cause, as we know, when Alfred Nobel endowed his Prizes, he whispered to the first Committee, "Let's see who we can piss off with these babies!".
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Postby Borinata » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:31 am

Well I guess he deserved it. I mean, he ended America's two-front war er....

I mean he has gotten Iran to peaceably submit to full IAEA inspections, removing all fears that they are developing nuclear weapons, er....

I mean he's made some headway with the whole Kim Jong-Il testing nukes and deployment missiles...

I mean he's really taken the Israeli-Palestinian peace process to a new level, er...

I mean, at least he's championed gay rights by allowing gays into the US military and pushing for same-sex marriages, er...

Well at least he's finally gotten a once divided America to reach across the political divide and work together on common issues like health-care, er...

He ordered Guantanamo Bay to be closed (once they figure out where to put the detainees)?

YEAH! Guantanamo that's what he's done!

Honestly, I don't think I could be more disappointed if they gave it to some crackpot dictator like they usually do.

(And, for his fearless championing of the reviled-the-world-over Holocaust deniers, the Nobel Peace Prize goes to Mahmoud Ahmedinijad!)
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:31 am

Northwest Slobovia wrote:
You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Hairless Kitten II wrote:One question: Why?

The "best" and most logical answer I've heard is that the prize commitee awarded it to B.O. as a slap in the face to the Bush Administration.

...cause, as we know, when Alfred Nobel endowed his Prizes, he whispered to the first Committee, "Let's see who we can piss off with these babies!".


Alfred Nobel invented dynamite. :blink: :lol:
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