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Has Obama done enough to merit the Nobel Peace Prize?

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Postby Vervaria » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:05 am

Les Drapeaux Brulants wrote:
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:They just sort of hand those things out these days, don't they?

They, meaning the Nobel committee, don't discriminate between those that work for peace and those that they like, politically. If they did, then that little troll, Yasser Arafat would have never been awarded a peace prize. That award was the watershed for the Peace Prize. Since then, it's been a political tool to use against the United States.

Yes, I know Obama is President of the USA, but he has been working against the U.S. as actively as any other foreigner.

I'm sure you can provide actual evidence to show that the Prize is being used as a tool against the US, and that Obama is plotting/working against his own country?
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Postby F1-Insanity » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:06 am

West Failure wrote:Seems Obama has won the Nobel Peace Prize. Has he actually done enough to deserve it?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7927039.stm


What a joke. And what a slap in the face of those who have actually done something this year.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:06 am

FreeSatania wrote:Henry Kissinger has one too and he didn't do anything to deserve it either.


In fact, he probably did enough to earn an anti-peace prize. :p
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Postby Vittos Ordination » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:06 am

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Vittos Ordination wrote:The world has Stockholm Syndrome.

Actually the NPP is given by a committee appointed by the Norwegian Storting, in Oslo. :)


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Postby A Rightist Puppet » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:06 am

Obama was President for only for 12 days before the Nobel nomination deadline last February... And he got in then? :rofl:

This is pathetic, anyone who believes he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for sending 30,000 troops to Afghanistan, keeping open Gitmo, refusing to break with Bush-era legal defense and protecting telecommunication giants from lawsuits regarding phone tapping.... Should get their head checked.

I thought Al Gore's was frivolous (honestly, Global Warming one way or another doesn't seem to do with peace) but this is a whole new level.
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Postby Northern Delmarva » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:07 am

I didn't know one could win the Nobel Peace Prize for sucking the world's ass.
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Postby Obama Jugen III » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:08 am

Czardas wrote:
Obama Jugen III wrote:The way you phrased the question implies a false uniformity through the world. Whereas, in fact, the world is heterogeneous. It also has limited physical resources. Sometimes (even among friendly nations) competition for resources requires limited strife. Acting based on the average demands of the world's population might mean giving in a particular situation of strife. Giving in during any strife for the purpose of disadvantaging of the US during an interaction with a foreign entity is the bona fide definition of treason.

The bonafide definition of treason is actually "betraying the United States to its enemies."

Most of the people Obama talks to aren't the US's enemies. Although, if he does what you're recommending, they will be.

Giving in during a strife in order to benefit the counterparty is just one of the ways to betray your party to the counterparty. But even that doesn't matter. One can commit treason while interacting with friendly nations. Friend/enemy distinction doesn't apply here. One can commit treason while interacting with friendly nations. Rosenberg, for example, was convicted of treason while all he did was help out Soviet Union while US was still friends (allies, in fact) with the Soviet Union.

Most of the time nations which are friendly are looking for mutual benefit. But there are occasions when they have strife. Intentionally giving in during such times would be treasonous for a President. And if he stated that he intends to do just that, it would be impeachable.
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Postby Czardas » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:09 am

Vervaria wrote:
Les Drapeaux Brulants wrote:
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:They just sort of hand those things out these days, don't they?

They, meaning the Nobel committee, don't discriminate between those that work for peace and those that they like, politically. If they did, then that little troll, Yasser Arafat would have never been awarded a peace prize. That award was the watershed for the Peace Prize. Since then, it's been a political tool to use against the United States.

Yes, I know Obama is President of the USA, but he has been working against the U.S. as actively as any other foreigner.

I'm sure you can provide actual evidence to show that the Prize is being used as a tool against the US, and that Obama is plotting against his own country?

He can't, since he's just spewing mindless rhetoric. In fact I rather doubt the operation of his fingers is at all linked to his frontal and prefrontal cortices, but is instead guided solely by the amygdala, lacking the input of rational thought.

That's why my initial response to his post wasn't directed at him but at those who use their reasoning abilities to guide their posting process.
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Postby Desperate Measures » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:10 am

Secret poker tournament made up of scientists, authors, heads of state and the like. That is how it has always been done. That is tradition.
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Postby Sitspot » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:11 am

A Rightist Puppet wrote:Obama was President for only for 12 days before the Nobel nomination deadline last February... And he got in then? :rofl:

This is pathetic, anyone who believes he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for sending 30,000 troops to Afghanistan, keeping open Gitmo, refusing to break with Bush-era legal defense and protecting telecommunication giants from lawsuits regarding phone tapping.... Should get their head checked.

I thought Al Gore's was frivolous (honestly, Global Warming one way or another doesn't seem to do with peace) but this is a whole new level.

This pretty much sums it up.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:11 am

Czardas wrote:
Vervaria wrote:
Les Drapeaux Brulants wrote:
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:They just sort of hand those things out these days, don't they?

They, meaning the Nobel committee, don't discriminate between those that work for peace and those that they like, politically. If they did, then that little troll, Yasser Arafat would have never been awarded a peace prize. That award was the watershed for the Peace Prize. Since then, it's been a political tool to use against the United States.

Yes, I know Obama is President of the USA, but he has been working against the U.S. as actively as any other foreigner.

I'm sure you can provide actual evidence to show that the Prize is being used as a tool against the US, and that Obama is plotting against his own country?

He can't, since he's just spewing mindless rhetoric. In fact I rather doubt the operation of his fingers is at all linked to his frontal and prefrontal cortices, but is instead guided solely by the amygdala, lacking the input of rational thought.

That's why my initial response to his post wasn't directed at him but at those who use their reasoning abilities to guide their posting process.


Wait, you can use reasoning abilities to guide your posting process? Do you need an addon for that? :?
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Postby Vervaria » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:11 am

Desperate Measures wrote:Secret poker tournament made up of scientists, authors, heads of state and the like. That is how it has always been done. That is tradition.

Now it all makes sense!
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:12 am

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Czardas wrote:
Vervaria wrote:
Les Drapeaux Brulants wrote:
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:They just sort of hand those things out these days, don't they?

They, meaning the Nobel committee, don't discriminate between those that work for peace and those that they like, politically. If they did, then that little troll, Yasser Arafat would have never been awarded a peace prize. That award was the watershed for the Peace Prize. Since then, it's been a political tool to use against the United States.

Yes, I know Obama is President of the USA, but he has been working against the U.S. as actively as any other foreigner.

I'm sure you can provide actual evidence to show that the Prize is being used as a tool against the US, and that Obama is plotting against his own country?

He can't, since he's just spewing mindless rhetoric. In fact I rather doubt the operation of his fingers is at all linked to his frontal and prefrontal cortices, but is instead guided solely by the amygdala, lacking the input of rational thought.

That's why my initial response to his post wasn't directed at him but at those who use their reasoning abilities to guide their posting process.


Wait, you can use reasoning abilities to guide your posting process? Do you need an addon for that? :?


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Postby Obama Jugen III » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:12 am

Psychotic Mongooses wrote:
Les Drapeaux Brulants wrote: Since then, it's been a political tool to use against the United States.

Naturally.
That's why these guys won it.

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2007 Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and Albert Arnold (Al) Gore Jr.
2006 Muhammad Yunus and Grameen Bank
2005 International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and Mohamed ElBaradei
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1998 John Hume and David Trimble
1997 International Campaign to Ban Landmines (ICBL) and Jody Williams
1996 Carlos Filipe Ximenes Belo and José Ramos-Horta
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In Al Gore's defense, he supported the Global Warming position based on measurements which were taken up to year 2001. THAT evidence did, in fact, support the Global Warming theory. You don't hear Al talking about it now. So I will insist that he is more a policy ace than an ideologue.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:13 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Czardas wrote:
Vervaria wrote:
Les Drapeaux Brulants wrote:
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:They just sort of hand those things out these days, don't they?

They, meaning the Nobel committee, don't discriminate between those that work for peace and those that they like, politically. If they did, then that little troll, Yasser Arafat would have never been awarded a peace prize. That award was the watershed for the Peace Prize. Since then, it's been a political tool to use against the United States.

Yes, I know Obama is President of the USA, but he has been working against the U.S. as actively as any other foreigner.

I'm sure you can provide actual evidence to show that the Prize is being used as a tool against the US, and that Obama is plotting against his own country?

He can't, since he's just spewing mindless rhetoric. In fact I rather doubt the operation of his fingers is at all linked to his frontal and prefrontal cortices, but is instead guided solely by the amygdala, lacking the input of rational thought.

That's why my initial response to his post wasn't directed at him but at those who use their reasoning abilities to guide their posting process.


Wait, you can use reasoning abilities to guide your posting process? Do you need an addon for that? :?


LG, honey, all you need is the mud. :)


Yay! :D
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Postby Peepelonia » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:13 am

Sitspot wrote:
A Rightist Puppet wrote:Obama was President for only for 12 days before the Nobel nomination deadline last February... And he got in then? :rofl:

This is pathetic, anyone who believes he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for sending 30,000 troops to Afghanistan, keeping open Gitmo, refusing to break with Bush-era legal defense and protecting telecommunication giants from lawsuits regarding phone tapping.... Should get their head checked.

I thought Al Gore's was frivolous (honestly, Global Warming one way or another doesn't seem to do with peace) but this is a whole new level.

This pretty much sums it up.



Yes I agree, that pretty much sums up the fact that many people post here with as much as glanceing at the original story. *shrug* What do I expect though, ahhhhh NSG I have missed you, lets never brake up again.

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Postby Czardas » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:14 am

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Czardas wrote:
Vervaria wrote:
Les Drapeaux Brulants wrote:
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:They just sort of hand those things out these days, don't they?

They, meaning the Nobel committee, don't discriminate between those that work for peace and those that they like, politically. If they did, then that little troll, Yasser Arafat would have never been awarded a peace prize. That award was the watershed for the Peace Prize. Since then, it's been a political tool to use against the United States.

Yes, I know Obama is President of the USA, but he has been working against the U.S. as actively as any other foreigner.

I'm sure you can provide actual evidence to show that the Prize is being used as a tool against the US, and that Obama is plotting against his own country?

He can't, since he's just spewing mindless rhetoric. In fact I rather doubt the operation of his fingers is at all linked to his frontal and prefrontal cortices, but is instead guided solely by the amygdala, lacking the input of rational thought.

That's why my initial response to his post wasn't directed at him but at those who use their reasoning abilities to guide their posting process.


Wait, you can use reasoning abilities to guide your posting process? Do you need an addon for that? :?

There's probably a patch for it if you use linux.

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:14 am

Peepelonia wrote:
Sitspot wrote:
A Rightist Puppet wrote:Obama was President for only for 12 days before the Nobel nomination deadline last February... And he got in then? :rofl:

This is pathetic, anyone who believes he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for sending 30,000 troops to Afghanistan, keeping open Gitmo, refusing to break with Bush-era legal defense and protecting telecommunication giants from lawsuits regarding phone tapping.... Should get their head checked.

I thought Al Gore's was frivolous (honestly, Global Warming one way or another doesn't seem to do with peace) but this is a whole new level.

This pretty much sums it up.



Yes I agree, that pretty much sums up the fact that many people post here with as much as glanceing at the original story. *shrug* What do I expect though, ahhhhh NSG I have missed you, lets never brake up again.


Get a room you two. :p
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Postby Vervaria » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:14 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Czardas wrote:
Vervaria wrote:
Les Drapeaux Brulants wrote:
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:They just sort of hand those things out these days, don't they?

They, meaning the Nobel committee, don't discriminate between those that work for peace and those that they like, politically. If they did, then that little troll, Yasser Arafat would have never been awarded a peace prize. That award was the watershed for the Peace Prize. Since then, it's been a political tool to use against the United States.

Yes, I know Obama is President of the USA, but he has been working against the U.S. as actively as any other foreigner.

I'm sure you can provide actual evidence to show that the Prize is being used as a tool against the US, and that Obama is plotting against his own country?

He can't, since he's just spewing mindless rhetoric. In fact I rather doubt the operation of his fingers is at all linked to his frontal and prefrontal cortices, but is instead guided solely by the amygdala, lacking the input of rational thought.

That's why my initial response to his post wasn't directed at him but at those who use their reasoning abilities to guide their posting process.


Wait, you can use reasoning abilities to guide your posting process? Do you need an addon for that? :?


LG, honey, all you need is the mud. :)

I thought you needed tacos too, or are they just a bonus?
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Self--Esteem wrote:No. I love smearing those people who evidently like their country blown by a nuke and who are too foolish to realise that middle-eastern terrorism is nothing to be fond of.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:15 am

Vervaria wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Czardas wrote:
Vervaria wrote:
Les Drapeaux Brulants wrote:
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:They just sort of hand those things out these days, don't they?

They, meaning the Nobel committee, don't discriminate between those that work for peace and those that they like, politically. If they did, then that little troll, Yasser Arafat would have never been awarded a peace prize. That award was the watershed for the Peace Prize. Since then, it's been a political tool to use against the United States.

Yes, I know Obama is President of the USA, but he has been working against the U.S. as actively as any other foreigner.

I'm sure you can provide actual evidence to show that the Prize is being used as a tool against the US, and that Obama is plotting against his own country?

He can't, since he's just spewing mindless rhetoric. In fact I rather doubt the operation of his fingers is at all linked to his frontal and prefrontal cortices, but is instead guided solely by the amygdala, lacking the input of rational thought.

That's why my initial response to his post wasn't directed at him but at those who use their reasoning abilities to guide their posting process.


Wait, you can use reasoning abilities to guide your posting process? Do you need an addon for that? :?


LG, honey, all you need is the mud. :)

I thought you needed tacos too, or are they just a bonus?


They're bonus, baby. 8)
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Postby FreeSatania » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:15 am

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
FreeSatania wrote:Henry Kissinger has one too and he didn't do anything to deserve it either.


In fact, he probably did enough to earn an anti-peace prize. :p


Well their giving Obama his because of what he promises to do in the area of anti-peace.

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Postby F1-Insanity » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:16 am

So, what exactly has Obama done that makes him 'deserve' it more than, say, Morgan Tsvangirai? The latter being someone who actually puts his own life on the line to try and work for peace?

It just confirms what I have been saying for years, the Nobel prize committee is a bunch of leftists promoting leftist politics. Oh, and to some folks here, no they are not anti-USA, they are pro-leftist.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:16 am

Vervaria wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:Wait, you can use reasoning abilities to guide your posting process? Do you need an addon for that? :?


LG, honey, all you need is the mud. :)

I thought you needed tacos too, or are they just a bonus?


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Postby Vervaria » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:17 am

F1-Insanity wrote:So, what exactly has Obama done that makes him 'deserve' it more than, say, Morgan Tsvangirai? The latter being someone who actually puts his own life on the line to try and work for peace?

It just confirms what I have been saying for years, the Nobel prize committee is a bunch of leftists promoting leftist politics. Oh, and to some folks here, no they are not anti-USA, they are pro-leftist.

If they were biased leftists, they wouldn't have given it to Obama, who by their standards is a center-rightist.
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:17 am

FreeSatania wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
FreeSatania wrote:Henry Kissinger has one too and he didn't do anything to deserve it either.


In fact, he probably did enough to earn an anti-peace prize. :p


Well their giving Obama his because of what he promises to do in the area of anti-peace.


I can understand his promises, and I can see what LG said earlier. But to me, which in the larger scheme of things matters not, Barrack Obama winning the NPP on mere promises of what he will do is... vapid. I wouldn't have given him the prize. He really hasn't ''done'' anything with those promises, just yet.
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