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Shooting near Empire State Building, New York
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:51 amby Charlotte Ryberg
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19372533I have decided to escalate
the developing topic from the Eternal Thread into a full thread after being informed about the number of casualties (Reuters Ticker: "Two people killed in Empire State shooting - NY police source") and the seriousness of the developing event. I will not speculate at present as to what the motive was, or whether there was an indication that there was a link to the Aurora shootings in any form. Regardless, I feel that the debate over the firearms ownership regulations will intensify.
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:56 amby Ifreann
Why can't we all just get along?
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:57 amby Samuraikoku
The shooter is dead. Well, at least it's over.
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:58 amby Charlotte Ryberg
Ifreann wrote:Why can't we all just get along?
Could you please elaborate as to what you mean specifically? Is it in regards to the reception towards gun ownership?
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:59 amby Khadgar
Huh, someone in NYC got shot. Shocking. The BBC article is too thin to say much else.
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:07 amby Corporation de Apple
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19372533
I have decided to escalate
the developing topic from the Eternal Thread into a full thread after being informed about the number of casualties (Reuters Ticker: "Two people killed in Empire State shooting - NY police source") and the seriousness of the developing event. I will not speculate at present as to what the motive was, or whether there was an indication that there was a link to the Aurora shootings in any form. Regardless, I feel that the debate over the firearms ownership regulations will intensify.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-574 ... -building/
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:08 amby Ifreann
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:Ifreann wrote:Why can't we all just get along?
Could you please elaborate as to what you mean specifically? Is it in regards to the reception towards gun ownership?
No, it's in regards to people who shoot other people. Couldn't they just not do that?
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:08 amby Corporation de Apple
Corporation de Apple wrote:Charlotte Ryberg wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19372533
I have decided to escalate
the developing topic from the Eternal Thread into a full thread after being informed about the number of casualties (Reuters Ticker: "Two people killed in Empire State shooting - NY police source") and the seriousness of the developing event. I will not speculate at present as to what the motive was, or whether there was an indication that there was a link to the Aurora shootings in any form. Regardless, I feel that the debate over the firearms ownership regulations will intensify.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-574 ... -building/
http://www2.nbc4i.com/news/2012/aug/24/ ... r-1148487/
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:08 amby Corporation de Apple
It's like they were all sponsored attacks against firearms makers
.
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:10 amby Stedicules
Khadgar wrote:Huh, someone in NYC got shot. Shocking. The BBC article is too thin to say much else.
maybe its thin because it happened at 9:00 am EST
today.
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:11 amby Zeppy
Khadgar wrote:Huh, someone in NYC got shot. Shocking. The BBC article is too thin to say much else.
This happen in Manhattan, where shootings are rare.
Except maybe in Harlem.
Holy shit. Since I've been living in NYC, I always wanted to visit the Empire State Building but I always too lazy or busy to visit it. I was planning on visiting before the summer ended.
Hope every one is okay.
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:12 amby OMGeverynameistaken
There are ~12,000 gun murders in the United States per year out of ~30,000 gun related deaths. 500 of those murders were in New York City.
I'm not sure why THIS one will increase debate about gun control.
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:13 amby Enadail
It happened just a few blocks from where I was while it was happening.
It was strange as hell to see so much of 5th closed over this; I didn't know what had happened, I just saw entire blocks of 5th ave closed, during rush hour.
The biggest thing, its a tourist spot, with families and their kids around. I'm not saying any shooting is good, but somehow it hits harder at the prospect of little kids being in the line of fire.
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:13 amby Pribram
It sad routine in U.S. now and nobody did anything to prevent such things.
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:15 amby Ifreann
Pribram wrote:It sad routine in U.S. now and nobody did anything to prevent such things.
I'm sure there are lots of crime prevention measures in place in New York City. That they're not perfect doesn't mean they don't exist.
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:16 amby OMGeverynameistaken
Ifreann wrote:Pribram wrote:It sad routine in U.S. now and nobody did anything to prevent such things.
I'm sure there are lots of crime prevention measures in place in New York City. That they're not perfect doesn't mean they don't exist.
NYC actually has fairly stringent gun control laws insofar as the US is concerned, I believe.
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:16 amby Charlotte Ryberg
Corporation de Apple, it seems the BBC has been updating the article frequently as new information came in.
The raw information so far:
- Took place just after 9am local time (2pm BST), at the junction of 34th Street and Fifth Avenue
- 2 people and gunman dead
- 8 people wounded
- No suggestion of a link to terrorism, pending formal investigation
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:17 amby Ifreann
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:Ifreann wrote:I'm sure there are lots of crime prevention measures in place in New York City. That they're not perfect doesn't mean they don't exist.
NYC actually has fairly stringent gun control laws insofar as the US is concerned, I believe.
And I imagine a touristy part of town would get good police coverage.
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:19 amby Miss Defied
The reason it is such big news it was near the Empire State Building so naturally everyone (in the media biz) wants it to be terrorism. It isn't. Just a slow news day. They can either talk about this or the hurricane that will not hit the GOP convention in Tampa next week.
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:20 amby Pribram
Ifreann wrote:Pribram wrote:It sad routine in U.S. now and nobody did anything to prevent such things.
I'm sure there are lots of crime prevention measures in place in New York City. That they're not perfect doesn't mean they don't exist.
OK, if there are sooo many restirctions, why is U.S. in fact ccntre of these shootings??
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:21 amby Zeppy
Ifreann wrote:And I imagine a touristy part of town would get good police coverage.
Yep.
I heard on the radio that the police killed the shooter.
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:21 amby Stedicules
Pribram wrote:Ifreann wrote:I'm sure there are lots of crime prevention measures in place in New York City. That they're not perfect doesn't mean they don't exist.
OK, if there are sooo many restirctions, why is U.S. in fact ccntre of these shootings??
just because there is a restriction in place, doesn't mean it's airtight and people can't bypass it.
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:22 amby Zeppy
Pribram wrote:OK, if there are sooo many restirctions, why is U.S. in fact ccntre of these shootings??
There are restriction for buying guns in NYC and NYS, but guns can be bought easily in other states, especially Virginia which can later be brought to NYC/NYS easily.
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:22 amby Stedicules
Miss Defied wrote:The reason it is such big news it was near the Empire State Building so naturally everyone (in the media biz) wants it to be terrorism. It isn't. Just a slow news day. They can either talk about this or the hurricane that will not hit the GOP convention in Tampa next week.
yes because a dozen people being shot at and two people dying isn't a worthy news topic.
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:24 amby Ifreann
Pribram wrote:Ifreann wrote:I'm sure there are lots of crime prevention measures in place in New York City. That they're not perfect doesn't mean they don't exist.
OK, if there are sooo many restirctions, why is U.S. in fact ccntre of these shootings??
I don't know, but again, that this crime wasn't prevented doesn't mean that nothing was done to prevent crime in general, or this crime specifically. It just didn't work.